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Lucasfilm finally announces Star Wars for Blu-ray

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He really does come off as an idiot when he yells about Gary "hating" Star Wars, and then his evidence is that he bashed the Blu-ray and Special Edition edits, said "fuck George Lucas," and then deleted his posts.

I just...

That's what's so strange about this. Maybe I haven't been deep in Star Wars fandom for so long, but aren't these the type of...erm...enthusiasts that would either agree with Gary or see that there's a little bit more to the story than "LOL HE H8S STAR WARS"? Or is the real sin with these maniacs the "Fuck Lucas"?
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Detective GAF is fucking amazing.

No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.
 
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

Thank you.
 

Tamanon

Banned
That's what's so strange about this. Maybe I haven't been deep in Star Wars fandom for so long, but aren't these the type of...erm...enthusiasts that would either agree with Gary or see that there's a little bit more to the story than "LOL HE H8S STAR WARS"? Or is the real sin with these maniacs the "Fuck Lucas"?

Only a sith
or Star Wars fanatic
deals in absolutes.
 

shira

Member
I vote that Evilore undoes Whitta's edits.

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I am curious to see what he erased from the Jedi Archives
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Daingurse

Member
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

It's a damn shame if this effects him. Sure I find it hilarious, but I'm not taking it beyond that. That would be fucked if this jeopardizes him.
 

Smellycat

Member
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

Spot on

lol at the overreactions.

Also Streinsand Effect and all that.



Why?

Because he was basically badmouthing Lucas and his movies. It might hurt him, even though his comments were made years ago.
 
I am curious to see what he erased.

Nothing but facts.

Seriously. The first thing Mickey Mouse should be asking people who apply for a Star Wars job is "Did you enjoy the Special Editions and Prequels?" Anyone who responds with anything but an immediate "No" should be kicked the fuck out.
 

Mononoke

Banned
I would say there's an unwritten, possibly written obligation to do so anyway.

I mean it sucks that it has to be that way, but that life.

Yeah I can see it from both sides. Basically, I don't want the guy to get fired over this. And I don't really think badly of him for making the edits. But I can also understand how he put himself at risk by using his real name on a forum, and expressing his opinion in a public space. So I do get why some people don't want him to edit his posts.
 

DrForester

Kills Photobucket
Yeah, I have a feeling Gary is getting sacked if this blows up

I feel bad for him, but he really shouldn't have used his real name on forums. And people here shouldn't try to bring him down either.

Kind of like how Orci got sacked because most Trek fans hate him?
 
Star Wars people will all be like:
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness."

And Gary Whitta will say to them:
"Not from my point of view."
 
Star Wars people will all be like:
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness."

And Gary Whitta will say to them:
"Not from my point of view."

This isn't fair. He fucking hated the PT guys...
 

Takao

Banned
I was like, "Weren't these already released on Blu-Ray? Wait, Lucasfilm? Shouldn't that be Dis... oh ...".

Put me in the Streisand Effect group. I understand why he removed those comments, but given there's other stuff he didn't remove, if Disney were keen on digging, they would've dug.
 
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

Laying down the law
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TheXbox

Member
If you guys don't think Disney haven't already background checked Gary, you're crazy. They know and they don't care. Lucas isn't involved with these movies anymore for a reason.
 
I hope you all realize that part of his Writers Agreement certainly includes not talking about the film without express permission from the producers and especially not talking about the film in any way that damages it.

If anything, Gary is covering his ass not only in terms of future employment, but legally.

It especially sucks when you're attached to a piece of shit that isn't a piece of shit for any decisions you made, but you're likely lumped with the criticism due to your on screen credit.
 

Dead Man

Member
At first I thought this was hilarious, but then I realized that I would do the exact same thing if I was in his shoes.

I'm more concerned that he thought it necessary. If he is being employed by people who would care about those comments I fear for the future of his script.
 
Joking aside, if Whitta loses the gig because some turd broke this into the mainstream press I'm never going to forgive them. Hating on the prequels is a good thing for the future of the series.

Indeed! Someone actually hating on the prequel trilogy gives me confidence in them writing the sequel trilogy
 

Toparaman

Banned
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

Most of us find it funny, not shameful, but otherwise I agree with you. It's one thing to erase your political/social opinions; then yes, you're a sellout. But your opinion of some movies? If that's what it takes to keep your job, who the hell cares?

I think he's safe though. I doubt Disney cares, especially because he at least made the effort to clean up. But if *gulp* Lucas finds out...pray he doesn't send an "executive order" to Disney.
 

Gobias

Banned
Christ, some of those posts on that Star Wars forums are borderline crazy. Fanboyism to the extreme for a bunch of probably grown men.
 
Robert Orci made abhorrent accusations about the government's involvement in the Sandy Hook shooting and was still handed the director's chair for Star Trek 13. It'd be ridiculous for Gary Whitta to be punished for voicing accurate criticism of the Star Wars prequels.
 

t-storm

Member
Life lesson: never say or write anything you wouldn't want to appear in a newspaper the next day.

Moreso if you're posting online on internet discussion forums with your real name as a handle.

Moreso if you're trashing films and directors in the business and you work in said industry.

Common sense derp?
 
That's what's so strange about this. Maybe I haven't been deep in Star Wars fandom for so long, but aren't these the type of...erm...enthusiasts that would either agree with Gary or see that there's a little bit more to the story than "LOL HE H8S STAR WARS"? Or is the real sin with these maniacs the "Fuck Lucas"?

i dont seen anything strange.after the will smith movie fiasco whitta show is true cards..anyone who follow him on twitter or know is work from the old days will know that...he is a decent guy..but sometimes he is very very shady
 

Minion101

Banned
Gary Whitta said:
I just want my original ROTJ ending with the original non-shitty Ewok victory music and non-shitty Hayden ghost Anakin
Quoting for truth. Thanks Gary for saying this. Could not agree more.
 

Mariolee

Member
No, it's really not. Gary made some comments that anyone with any sense would make, and is now in a position where those comments could potentially hurt his career after being offered the job of a lifetime (which he surely had no idea would be on the agenda at the time). Once you're on someone's payroll, what you say impacts them too, so he edited out some old posts to try to damage control any potential PR fallout.

Why exactly is he being shamed for it? This isn't an Amir0x situation where he's caught in a lie.

All I can hope for is that this thread doesn't screw him over later anyway what with his edits, and that he's able to make a good goddam Star Wars flick.
 

Kerned

Banned
Detective Mouse > DetectiveGAF. Disney probably isn't surprised by any of this. Hell it wouldn't shock me if they were the ones who asked him to clean up his online presence back in February. I'm sure he'll be just fine once all this is forgotten (plus I'm excited to see a Star Wars film written by Whitta).
 
Yeah I can see it from both sides. Basically, I don't want the guy to get fired over this. And I don't really think badly of him for making the edits. But I can also understand how he put himself at risk by using his real name on a forum, and expressing his opinion in a public space. So I do get why some people don't want him to edit his posts.

I think the edits bother people because it sends the message, and I know this is a harsh way of putting it, that he's basically willing to sell out his integrity. People respect other people who are willing to stand by their words and their deeds. If Gary had legitimately changed his mind about Lucas and the prequels and edited his posts because of that, then there'd be no problem. But that's clearly not why he went and did it. He went and covered it up like he was now ashamed of those opinions, when there was nothing to be ashamed of.

It's like if you're a kid, and you hang out with a shy nerdy kid on the playground because you're not judgmental and you both have common interests and whatnot. But then as soon as you get a chance to hang out with the cool kids crowd, you ditch this nerdy kid and pretend you don't know him cause you wanna be seen as cool yourself and you want to impress the cool kids. There's certainly a personal benefit to doing it, but it still looks like a shitty thing to do.

Again, it comes down to being authentic and genuine. What's truly inside oneself is nothing without showing it through actions. As Bruce Wayne said, "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me." Whitta went and edited away part of what defines him on GAF, and that's rubbing people the wrong way.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
I'm more concerned that he thought it necessary. If he is being employed by people who would care about those comments I fear for the future of his script.

After Earth should've been the first thing you thought about being worried about the script. Not these edits.

The Broken Ska Record said:
Has any one made the joke about the parallels of Whitta going back and changing things he's done with Lucas going back and "fixing" the OT yet?

That's only a comparison once he ninja edits in a hologram of Bish and Evilore in his posts four years from now.
 
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