When is that though? XRD is PS3/PS4, P4A2 is PS3/360, MKX is 360/PS3/XBO/PS4. No fighters are coming out on the current gen that isn't gonna be available on previous gens. Unless the previous gen runs worse to a degree that it becomes a hindrance to players then I don't see TOs switching to current gen for quite a while.
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Fighting Games Weekly | June 2-8 | The Final Kountdown
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When is that though? XRD is PS3/PS4, P4A2 is PS3/360, MKX is 360/PS3/XBO/PS4. No fighters are coming out on the current gen that isn't gonna be available on previous gens. Unless the previous gen runs worse to a degree that it becomes a hindrance to players then I don't see TOs switching to current gen for quite a while.
the thing is those guys don't realize the potential blow up it would have if they get caught saying it on stream. I thought people would learn but I guess it would take another Call Kotaku for people to stop saying it .
I honestly just don't think that many people are aware it's a slur, it's a pretty recent awareness. Just the big rise in trans slurs lately have been kinda bumming me out but whatever, I'm just gonna push buttons and do what I do. If Art or some other streamer sees this, just be aware cause it is pretty shitty.
I don't want to take this conversation any further though, a bit uncomfortable and stuff ^^;
The thing is, I'm not even sure if Kotaku (or any other big media outlet) would even go in on something like this. While the US has gotten more progressive over LGBT issues over the last decade, I honestly don't think many of the changes in attitude (and policy) for gays and lesbians haven't really applied to trans people.
The upshot to that is that a lot of people are not doing it out of any real malice and will stop once they know better. I think it's just a matter of some education, in a lot of instances. I've seen this firsthand at tournaments, where I've called out a couple of people I know about such language and their reaction has always been along the lines of "...shit, really? I didn't know that." -- and then they stop using those slurs.
Last input, but pretty much all of this is true from personal experience. I just ask nicely, "Hi, please don't say that." "Oh, I didn't know, of course," is usually the response. Not mad just kinda blegh.
gigantor21
Member
With the TE2 sticks dropping, I can't see how this isn't a possibility.
YOU HEAR THAT MARKMAN? I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
Me either. Why the hell would they put out an USFIV stick for Injustice? LOL
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
http://www.wired.com/2014/05/arcadia/#slide-id-957831
Hes up for visits from strangers, too. If there are any Street Fighter II players in the New York area, he says, they should come over and play here. I want this to be their hub.
The thing is, I'm not even sure if Kotaku (or any other big media outlet) would even go in on something like this. While the US has gotten more progressive over LGBT issues over the last decade, I honestly don't think many of the changes in attitude (and policy) for gays and lesbians haven't really applied to trans people.the thing is those guys don't realize the potential blow up it would have if they get caught saying it on stream. I thought people would learn but I guess it would take another Call Kotaku for people to stop saying it .
The upshot to that is that a lot of people are not doing it out of any real malice and will stop once they know better. I think it's just a matter of some education, in a lot of instances. I've seen this firsthand at tournaments, where I've called out a couple of people I know about such language and their reaction has always been along the lines of "...shit, really? I didn't know that." -- and then they stop using those slurs.I think a lot of folks literally don't know it's a slur. Sad and inexcusable.
It will be Mortal Kombat, if it has marked performance advantages on either next gen console, I think. Xrd won't be big enough to throw all your eggs in the PS4 basket the same way KI wasn't. And even still, it's not like TOs will pony up if it runs well enough on current gen consoles.When is that though? XRD is PS3/PS4, P4A2 is PS3/360, MKX is 360/PS3/XBO/PS4. No fighters are coming out on the current gen that isn't gonna be available on previous gens. Unless the previous gen runs worse to a degree that it becomes a hindrance to players then I don't see TOs switching to current gen for quite a while.
Otherwise, first next-gen exclusive Capcom came will force everyone's hand.
I'm hoping for:I predict a new capcom fighter.
Yes I'm a crazy man.
1. A new capcom fighter. (I'll take any really. Unrealistically hoping for Darkstalkers or Capc vs Capcom)
2. Some gameplay for MKX.
3. Tekken x Street Fighter?
4. New Smash info.
5. PROJECT BEAST!!!
What we'll get:
1. USF4 ps4 announcement.
2. Another MKX CG trailer.
3. New smash info.
Living the fucking dream man.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I think a lot of folks literally don't know it's a slur. Sad and inexcusable.
Whatever makes you feel special and superior, I guess.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Friendly reminder: Tomorrow is E3. Don't get banned.
This place is going to be a hen house. We should try and predict what fighting games we'll see to find out who has the best foresight. Here's a picture of stuff for Capcom's booth and seemingly a bunch of stuff for WB's:
marvel 4
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'm hoping for:
1. A new capcom fighter. (I'll take any really. Unrealistically hoping for Darkstalkers or Capc vs Capcom)
2. Some gameplay for MKX.
3. Tekken x Street Fighter?
4. New Smash info.
5. PROJECT BEAST!!!
What we'll get:
1. USF4 ps4 announcement.
2. Another MKX CG trailer.
3. New smash info.
We'll probably get some Xrd console details as well
Way too many teasers/posters etc. for MKX not to be playable or at least have gameplay demonstrated, I feel.
EDIT:
EDIT:
Enzostradamus.
Oh shit, forgot about KI S2. I guess that's already confirmed though, no surprise there.If you'll be at E3, stop by the MS booth and play with me!
Stabby McSter
Member
I'm still gonna go with my hail mary guess and say they drop SSB for the 3DS at the Nintendo conference.
COME ON NINTENDO I BELIEVE
COME ON NINTENDO I BELIEVE
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm still gonna go with my hail mary guess and say they drop SSB for the 3DS at the Nintendo conference.
COME ON NINTENDO I BELIEVE
I got a good feeling about that one as well!
StriKeVillain
Banned
I'm actually a college drop out that learned most of his social understanding from a video game forum.Whatever makes you feel special and superior, I guess.
I'm mostly critiquing a lot of these kids living in - what many call - the Mecca of culture and not understanding a common slur.
Karsticles
Member
As in, available at stores tomorrow?I'm still gonna go with my hail mary guess and say they drop SSB for the 3DS at the Nintendo conference.
COME ON NINTENDO I BELIEVE
What does the phrase "Mecca of culture" mean to you?I'm actually a college drop out that learned most of his social understanding from a video game forum.
I'm mostly critiquing a lot of these kids living in - what many call - the Mecca of culture and not understanding a common slur.
Trying to fill the finace shaped hole in his heart with old men playing ST, huh.
Master Milk
Member
It will be Mortal Kombat, if it has marked performance advantages on either next gen console, I think. Xrd won't be big enough to throw all your eggs in the PS4 basket the same way KI wasn't. And even still, it's not like TOs will pony up if it runs well enough on current gen consoles.
Otherwise, first next-gen exclusive Capcom came will force everyone's hand.
Why would the new MK perform better on current gen than last gen?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I'm going to complain if any of the press conferences aren't 7 hypes per second cause I have a gerbil brain
I'm going to complain if any of the press conferences aren't 7 hypes per second cause I have a gerbil brain
Honestly I have no clue what Sony will announce other than Project Beast and indies. So many of their other studios are not showing anything.
StriKeVillain
Banned
I believe I was referring to all the different cultures, individuals and experiences in NY. Probably naive of me, but with all that around I'd think folks would be less ignorant and would throw "trap" around without a second thought.As in, available at stores tomorrow?
What does the phrase "Mecca of culture" mean to you?
Why would the new MK perform better on current gen than last gen?
Current gen consoles are the lead development platforms.
Karsticles
Member
If we get Project Beast and The Last Guardian, I don't know what else Sony even needs. Then again, I don't buy Sony for their first party exclusives. I buy it for the third party Japanese exclusives. As long as I see Palutena in Smash Bros. this week, it will be a great week. Everything else is gravy. My expectations are set low, but my hype is set to maximum.Honestly I have no clue what Sony will announce other than Project Beast and indies. So many of their other studios are not showing anything.
Ah, K.I believe I was referring to all the different cultures, individuals and experiences in NY. Probably naive of me, but with all that around I'd think folks would be less ignorant and would throw "trap" around without a second thought.
Ultra is def coming to PS4. I was convinced once madcatz announced their Ultra PS4 stick
If we finally get MH4 in the west then it's time for me to get a 3DS. Between that, Smash andit's about time to get oneSenran Kagura :x
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate was confirmed for 2015 in the US since it was revealed.
Stabby McSter
Member
As in, available at stores tomorrow?
I realized I worded that poorly. eShop shortly after the announcement, retail probably the next day.
They could overdo the effects? I don't think the power of a console really decides how optimized something is. Especially when you have so many different quirks for so many different platforms.Why would the new MK perform better on current gen than last gen?
If they just have Project Beast and Last Guardian, I might just fall asleep. Looking forward to what Bend is doing any more than those two titles. Now that Media Molecule pulled out, I can't muster any hype up for the Sony conference unless we get God of War or something.If we get Project Beast and The Last Guardian, I don't know what else Sony even needs. Then again, I don't buy Sony for their first party exclusives. I buy it for the third party Japanese exclusives. As long as I see Palutena in Smash Bros. this week, it will be a great week. Everything else is gravy. My expectations are set low, but my hype is set to maximum.
It would already have to be in stores, pretty much. Not happening. I think pulling a WTT/Beyonce would be a great move though.I realized I worded that poorly. eShop shortly after the announcement, retail probably the next day.
StriKeVillain
Banned
After buying a Wii U for MK8 I'd say I'm more excited to see what Nintendo brings during the week.
Oh who am I kidding, it'll probably be more pain.
Oh who am I kidding, it'll probably be more pain.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I believe I was referring to all the different cultures, individuals and experiences in NY. Probably naive of me, but with all that around I'd think folks would be less ignorant and would throw "trap" around without a second thought.
Even Jared Rea, San Francisco bastion of progressive decency and all-inclusive niceties, was like "It's OK to call this show 'Frame Trap' cuz my trans friends say it's totally all right."
Knowledge of trans issues isn't anywhere near the level that it is for issues of race, sexual orientation, etc. Even in a place like NYC. So you can't really assume much about their general life experiences regarding that stuff.
Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo. Which is why IMO all eyes are on Nintendo. The pressure is mounting, and nobody in the industry knows how to surprise or keep leaks like Nintendo either.After buying a Wii U for MK8 I'd say I'm more excited to see what Nintendo brings during the week.
Oh who am I kidding, it'll probably be more pain.
I'm curious if we'll see any early QoL stuff or a Wii U rebranding or something. I want to see what they'll do to squeeze more life out of the Wii U. And of course, based Smash.
EDIT: And NFC stuff is also super exciting and potentially huge.
Master Milk
Member
Current gen consoles are the lead development platforms.
Why does this matter?
They could overdo the effects? I don't think the power of a console really decides how optimized something is. Especially when you have so many different quirks for so many different platforms.
I don't think NRS would release a fighter that wasn't hitting 60fps or had slowdown during gameplay sequences that mattered.
NRS fighters have always been bad, but
Actually, I don't know where my faith in NRS is coming from. Yea, they could fuck something up. We'll see, I guess.
Karsticles
Member
How the hell does God of War excite you more than Project Beast or TLG? You continually confuse me, Enzo.If they just have Project Beast and Last Guardian, I might just fall asleep. Looking forward to what Bend is doing any more than those two titles. Now that Media Molecule pulled out, I can't muster any hype up for the Sony conference unless we get God of War or something.
I don't need this to happen on finals week lolAs in, available at stores tomorrow?
Always having E3 on my finals is bad enough.
I'm a sucker for mythology, and the potential for them to take the franchise into different non-Greek mythologies to explore is exciting.How the hell does God of War excite you more than Project Beast or TLG? You continually confuse me, Enzo.
Beast looks like another Souls game, I haven't finished the first and am hearing stuff I don't like about DSII. Should I have confidence because it's pretty? I know GAF thinks the Souls games are like the be all end all of gaming but I'm still shocked at how big the reaction has been to what little we've seen.
TLG was always about as exciting as Duke Nukem Forever. We don't know jack shit about the game aside from a trailer or two that look ugly in retrospect. As a disclaimer, I had both ICO and SotC spoiled for me, and thus really lost any motivation to play them.
Master Milk
Member
As a disclaimer, I had both ICO and SotC spoiled for me, and thus really lost any motivation to play them.
Spoiled how? Did you watch someone else play them from beginning to end?
Even Jared Rea, San Francisco bastion of progressive decency and all-inclusive niceties, was like "It's OK to call this show 'Frame Trap' cuz my trans friends say it's totally all right."
Knowledge of trans issues isn't anywhere near the level that it is for issues of race, sexual orientation, etc. Even in a place like NYC. So you can't really assume much about their general life experiences regarding that stuff.
Your right though but to be fair the dudes in question played a shit ton of games a tchina town fair where there was quite a few trans people playing there weekly too. Maybe they didn't know it was a slur but now they do.
Karsticles
Member
I love mythology, too. God of War just uses it as a backdrop, though. There's no real cultural content there for me to enjoy. Taking the franchise into non-Greek mythologies makes me a little sick to my stomach. Unless they had the guts to take Kratos into Christendom; I wouldn't buy the game, but I would be highly amused by the announcement.I'm a sucker for mythology, and the potential for them to take the franchise into different non-Greek mythologies to explore is exciting.
Beast looks like another Souls game, I haven't finished the first and am hearing stuff I don't like about DSII. Should I have confidence because it's pretty? I know GAF thinks the Souls games are like the be all end all of gaming but I'm still shocked at how big the reaction has been to what little we've seen.
TLG was always about as exciting as Duke Nukem Forever. We don't know jack shit about the game aside from a trailer or two that look ugly in retrospect. As a disclaimer, I had both ICO and SotC spoiled for me, and thus really lost any motivation to play them.
I have confidence in Project Beast the Souls games (all 1.5 of them I have played so far) are fantastic. I am glad to see more of that, and a new setting seems interesting.
As someone who fell upon Ico and SotC randomly, I enjoyed both of them. Ico more than SotC, and I am probably the minority there. I don't need to know more about the game other than that it's being made by the same team. It's like a Platinum Games title - I don't really need to see what's up to know it will be worth my time (unless it's the MadWorld team...).
It kind of sounds like you spend too much time reading about games, and then you don't actually get to enjoy them for yourself.
This post is so full of fail it's almost inconceivable.If they just have Project Beast and Last Guardian, I might just fall asleep. Looking forward to what Bend is doing any more than those two titles. Now that Media Molecule pulled out, I can't muster any hype up for the Sony conference unless we get God of War or something.
Next thing you know you are going to say "if Capcom just unveiled DMC5 and Dino Crisis 4, I would fall asleep. I can only get hype for Capcom if they reveal Resident Evil."
Go back to your Crackdowns, Halos, Forzas, GoW and PGRs son.
I somehow stumbled on a video of the ending to SotC and someone told me about a twist/detail about the character in ICO that I would have loved to discover myself.Spoiled how? Did you watch someone else play them from beginning to end?
Yup. When I went to HS, we covered all sorts of stuff about developmental abnormalities (intersex-type stuff) but noooope they couldn't touch masturbation, gay or transgender issues because of *insert dumb religious bloc here*. Internet's definitely changing awareness as people grow up with it, but ts not something you can assume people have any real knowledge of, and its definitely harder to wrap your head around than orientation. Definitely agree that just using it as opportunity to educate first and foremost is best whenever possible- if you can teach someone better, they can pass that along.Even Jared Rea, San Francisco bastion of progressive decency and all-inclusive niceties, was like "It's OK to call this show 'Frame Trap' cuz my trans friends say it's totally all right."
Knowledge of trans issues isn't anywhere near the level that it is for issues of race, sexual orientation, etc. Even in a place like NYC. So you can't really assume much about their general life experiences regarding that stuff.
As a disclaimer, I had both ICO and SotC spoiled for me, and thus really lost any motivation to play them.
I was pretty meh on ICO, but loved SoTC. Even if you know the entire plot the game is worth it for those magnificent boss fights.
RockTurtle
Member
I'm a sucker for mythology, and the potential for them to take the franchise into different non-Greek mythologies to explore is exciting.
Beast looks like another Souls game, I haven't finished the first and am hearing stuff I don't like about DSII. Should I have confidence because it's pretty? I know GAF thinks the Souls games are like the be all end all of gaming but I'm still shocked at how big the reaction has been to what little we've seen.
TLG was always about as exciting as Duke Nukem Forever. We don't know jack shit about the game aside from a trailer or two that look ugly in retrospect. As a disclaimer, I had both ICO and SotC spoiled for me, and thus really lost any motivation to play them.
your thoughts on the soul series sotc has me questioning your ability to make the FGC threads!
strike one enzo!
Deckard Cain
Banned
If you'll be at E3, stop by the MS booth and play with me!
Oh yeah & how could I forget the second season of the worst fighting game to come out in 10 years, Killer Instinct.
Slamtastic
Member
Desperate Nintendo means unfinished, rushed, shorter games, failed partnerships, etc.
or maybe it finally means pokemon mmo
kappa
The ending isn't the entire game... you haven't experienced SOTC until you have beaten those Colossi on your own.I somehow stumbled on a video of the ending to SotC and someone told me about a twist/detail about the character in ICO that I would have loved to discover myself.
It's like saying "oh man I already know what's gonna happen at the end of GoW/DMC... might as well not play those games anymore!" These aren't movies and even then I wouldn't skip out on a good movie just because someone spoiled me on an ending.