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Kingdom Hearts 3 is now using Unreal Engine 4
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GGXRD uses UE3.
That's right, this
Isnt even its final form.
that is gorgeous!!
Tales series could probably run on UE then
on the other hand, Square's UE3 game Last Remnant is quite bad on X360
hopefully they can optimize UE4 for KH3 (or other future projects)
DangerMouse
Member
"MY BURNING ANGER GUIDES ME TO UE4"
Seriously though he probably doesn't want to Jinx KH3 with Ruminous RORU!
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Nomura, please keep using your BURNING ANGER to create an amazing Kingdom Hearts game.
you know, the first sentence was a joke. that's why i wrote "serious"
yes, i know they look different..but there is still something to the way textures look, how they reflect light when the characters are wet.
but maybe it changes with the UE4. it is not like i won't buy the game.
Edit: aaaand i pre-ordered guilt gear xrd for the ps4..with the controller..
Early 2013
SE: Don't worry, we got this.
Late 2014
SE: Oh dear god, we don't got this.
So much for all that self-sufficiency.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Someone created some kind of cel shader that may work well with Borderlands UE4: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?7164-A-different-kind-of-cel-shader
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I think Nomura is saying:"I want the get the fuck out of this company the sooner the better, so I'm switching to an engine that will allow me to do the game in less than 3 years!"
When Last Remnant was made there was a several lack of japanese documentation, which was the fundation of all the problems the game had. The PC version runs very well, BTW.
Basically Last Remnant is not a good example. Most recent UE games dosn't have these problems.
When Last Remnant was made there was a several lack of japanese documentation, which was the fundation of all the problems the game had. The PC version runs very well, BTW.
Basically Last Remnant is not a good example. Most recent UE games dosn't have these problems.
To be fair, that was years ago when the dev chain in japan wasn't really suited to using outside engines, as well as the fact that UE3 itself was nowhere near as robust and upgraded as it is today back then. On PC i can remember Last remnant being OK actually...but 360 did have issues with it.
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Beaten like a mug
3 Sonic games (Unleashed, Generations, Lost World) but also PSO2.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The engine might have failed as a licensed engine, but it was a good engine, that worked well across last gen systems.
As a side note on that, though apparently they're currently having problems with rendering that may cause them inefficiency, I wonder if some of the UE4 benefits will make them more efficient. The latest UE4 release notes preview is HUGE (https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?47551-Unreal-Engine-4-5-Preview!&p=157123#post157123). Two of the features I'm most interested in are the nice dynamic shadows, and the C++ live reload.
I would think that being able to live reload even C++ code while your game is running could be a big help for a major game project. I haven't used it myself, but it sounds cool.
Not really.
Or they could return to their 32-bit roots and...*gasp*...actually release FFXVI & FFXVII this same gen.
Like not spin offs, I know, I know
To be fair, that was years ago when the dev chain in japan wasn't really suited to using outside engines, as well as the fact that UE3 itself was nowhere near as robust and upgraded as it is today back then. On PC i can remember Last remnant being OK actually...but 360 did have issues with it.
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Beaten like a mug
They also have a Japanese support office now and full Japanese documentation, so you can read everything and Epic can send engineers over all the type who speak your language and work with you to help fulfill your needs.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Since SE is still cobbling together Luminous specifically for XV, I have no doubts on that.
Ultimadrago
Member
Just abandon the damn Luminous for current projects and go with UE4 or something if that is the reason for engine issues. They even seem to have given up on that when it comes to XV. Oh well whatever.
Frank finally got through to them with his Hades facepalm. Thank you, Napalm sir.
Damerman
Member
lol how do they NOT have it by the balls?
^ Because mostly everyone big uses their own inhouse engine now, Epic has to actually go out and find licensees now instead of them coming in droves like the first half of last gen.
That as well. Hopefully that'll get more and more Japanese and smaller devs on the UE4 train, it'll save everyone tons of time and effort and make things much faster and efficient.
That as well. Hopefully that'll get more and more Japanese and smaller devs on the UE4 train, it'll save everyone tons of time and effort and make things much faster and efficient.
Well, considering you can get access to the engine even as a hobbyist for a relatively small free, including the ENTIRE SOURCE CODE which you can modify however you like, I think it's probably actually a decent thing for developers.
I suppose the only major risks would be if Epic tried to force some sort of engine change that made things run worse, but I would think they would just continue to add options. Plus it's not like you have to upgrade. Or, Epic could hugely increase licensing fees, maybe if you sell more than a certain number of games.
I'd like to think Epic wouldn't do that though. As long as they're making a reasonable profit and drawing in yet more business, increasing fees would probably only hurt them. They already have the community providing contributions to make the engine better, and that process can probably continue quite successfully.
How do they? Most developers have their own internal engines these days, especially the big publishers. EA uses Frostbite for everything and Ubisoft has several internal engines, for example. The number of high profile UE4 projects is minimal. Epic isn't getting a repeat of last gen.
Squeenix is only using UE4 because they're an abject failure of a company.
Damerman
Member
with the effort that they put into the engine, i would not be surprised if we see more Unreal Engine games coming out in less time with less bugs and better performance than what most publishers will put out. Unless they have R&D that puts in work on their proprietary engines as much as epic does... i don't see publishers being able to resist UE4.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Anyone noticed this?
The Black Glove: "An eerie, surrealistic, first-person game experience by an independent team of developers who helped make BioShock Infinite & BioShock."
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theblackglove/the-black-glove
The Black Glove: "An eerie, surrealistic, first-person game experience by an independent team of developers who helped make BioShock Infinite & BioShock."
sadly still using UE3
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theblackglove/the-black-glove
UE4 seems to be having pretty great uptake in Japan so far. Tekken 7, Let it Die, D4: Dark Dreams Dont Die, ScaleBound all use it. And now SE are moving over this, plus they were one of the first publishers to officially license UE4 so presumably they have at least one unannounced project in development on the engine already.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I...uhh...
Rip luminous engine.
Rip luminous engine.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
UE4 hair tech (based on TressFX 2.2+)
https://forums.unrealengine.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4440&d=1401884741
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzqpBc4MrAMXb1oxenk0VzVqRU0/edit
Well if they were smart they would! I was calling them dumbfucks because it looked like they were just sitting on the engine while pimping out an unproven tech demo of an engine like Luminous.
Father_Brain
Banned
It's true that there aren't exactly many AAA games using UE4, though. Even with a loose definition of AAA, these are the only ones announced I can think of:
Fable Legends
Crackdown
Scalebound
New Gears of War
Dead Island 2
Tekken 7
KHIII
Am I forgetting anything?
Fable Legends
Crackdown
Scalebound
New Gears of War
Dead Island 2
Tekken 7
KHIII
Am I forgetting anything?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Yes
Hellblade
Without A Memory
Sony Bend open world horror game
Rime
And the list is almost infinite with indies.
Father_Brain
Banned
None of those, save the Bend game, really fit any conventional definition of AAA.
Back then, Epic had only threadbare support for Japan. These days, they seem to be throwing themselves at Japanese devs and pubs.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
The way without a Memory is presented and promised, they are sure to pull AAA game
Also Hellblade is made by Ninja Theory and is a spiritual sucessor to Heavenly Sword in case you don't know
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Yes, and this seems to be an indication that XV will likely be the only game to use it.
Femmeworth
Banned
This is beyond sad at this point.