I see.. ~Game breaking fps unlock and ~game breaking letterbox unlock means more or less stuck with an idiotic 2.35 ratio and 30 fps.. Why would anyone with a decent PC with a ~24 monitor buy this game...
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Bethesda is being extremely shady about The Evil Within's PC framerate
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I see.. ~Game breaking fps unlock and ~game breaking letterbox unlock means more or less stuck with an idiotic 2.35 ratio and 30 fps.. Why would anyone with a decent PC with a ~24 monitor buy this game...
I have little lined up gaming wise (besides FFXIII and Isaac:Rebirth) so i was interested in this game but i'm gonna wait for 60fps tests and normal benchmarks (cause 4gb vram!), i just can't spend 30 bucks on a shitty port right now.
The unlocking the framerate annoys me mainly because when i do encounter something weird is it just the game or because i have unlocked the framerate? I really hate not knowing that.
Its entirely ridiculous. The soap opera effect with 60fps games is just an initial shock in seeing a smoother framerate than you're used to seeing with a game.
"Why does the PC recommended requirement ask for 4 GB of VRAM?
The PS4 and Xbox One both have 8 GB of unified RAM which can be used as both system and video memory. Because our PC version is functionally identical to those platforms, we recommend 4 GB of system memory, and 4 GB of VRAM for the best experience."
Isn't this kinda bullshit? As far as I know, they have 5~5.5GB available as unified memory for games, the rest is reserved to the OS.
The PS4 and Xbox One both have 8 GB of unified RAM which can be used as both system and video memory. Because our PC version is functionally identical to those platforms, we recommend 4 GB of system memory, and 4 GB of VRAM for the best experience."
Isn't this kinda bullshit? As far as I know, they have 5~5.5GB available as unified memory for games, the rest is reserved to the OS.
Crimsonclaw111
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Good job, everybody. The answers may not be too everyone's liking, but at least things have been answered.
It's okay to be concerned, but calling them game breaking /right now/ when they could work just fine seems silly.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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I know you were being sarcastic but that would make the game legit horrifying. I'm already pretty useless at horror games but I'd cough up my heart if monsters moved at hyperspeed.
Well... I would like to see the effect that 60fps has on the game.
In my experiences with 30fps games...
Dark Souls 1: Used Durante's config to unlock to 60fps. However this caused a screen tear issue, which was resolved by setting to 59fps. No other issues.
Killer is Dead: Setting the config to 60fps broke certain mashing commands in the game because the timing of mashing was timed to framerate. The workaround for this was to also alter the accepted rates of mashing in the config file; took about 2 minutes. No other issues.
Dead Rising 3: Unoptimized garbage that crashes if you move one iota off default settings. Sure you can change it to 60fps, but you better start praying.
In other words, I think I'll wait for impressions from those that will try it first.
In my experiences with 30fps games...
Dark Souls 1: Used Durante's config to unlock to 60fps. However this caused a screen tear issue, which was resolved by setting to 59fps. No other issues.
Killer is Dead: Setting the config to 60fps broke certain mashing commands in the game because the timing of mashing was timed to framerate. The workaround for this was to also alter the accepted rates of mashing in the config file; took about 2 minutes. No other issues.
Dead Rising 3: Unoptimized garbage that crashes if you move one iota off default settings. Sure you can change it to 60fps, but you better start praying.
In other words, I think I'll wait for impressions from those that will try it first.
To be honest, that answer doesn't give us enough information.
Sure, we can unlock the game to 60 FPS, but is it even playable at that point? Will the enemies and animations be moving at super speed?
Utter bullshit. Either unoptimized streaming, ala Mordor, or PC has larger texture sizes, ala Mordor.
I've had a pre-order with GMG for a little while now. Was planning on cancelling it today, but I May keep it now.
I would like a slightly more straight forward answer.
kahboomkin
Member
I think I'll wait for some PC impressions from GAF before buying this...
Those Dev Console commands are really exciting.
Sounds like free camera, and actual - not being payed for, not DLC - cheat codes. Those should be really fun.
Also, as for the letterboxing, it sounds like what they're saying is "cutscenes were frames with 21:9 in mind, and you might be able to see stuff you shouldn't be able to.
Sounds like free camera, and actual - not being payed for, not DLC - cheat codes. Those should be really fun.
Also, as for the letterboxing, it sounds like what they're saying is "cutscenes were frames with 21:9 in mind, and you might be able to see stuff you shouldn't be able to.
Even Mordor never said you might need to run at a lower resolution than 1080p if you don't have a 4GB card, that's what surprises me the most.
I was expecting "you need 4GB for super ultra settings and stuff", but not for 1080p.
Yeah, that part is kinda awesome. Can't wait to see the screenshots people will take with free camera.
Yeah this is reasonable, I'll wait for impressions. Dark Souls wasn't bad at 60fps.
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Jotamide
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Another one for the Summer sale 2015. I don't support shitty ports at full price.
It's not going to be "fine" when it comes straight from the horse's mouth. I forgot the ""s in "game breaking", I'm sorry.
This is my biggest concern.
If I can't even run the damn thing at 1080p/30FPS, I'll be royally pissed.
I don't think so. Nintendo made 60fps a thing for a lot of folks when people played games at lesser framerates and discovered that Nintendo games' smoothness was often attributed to their high framezor.
Recommend specs are generally heavily inflated by the publisher for liability reasons.
They are just unfamiliar with the community.
For example, Metal Gear Rising is locked to 1080p. Platinum did not take into account the large portion of the community that downsamples from higher resolutions, or the inherent forwards compatibility of the platform (IE coming back in a decade with an 8K monitor).
I guess we'll see when it comes out what unlocking the framerate does. (Really, not being coy. Maybe it will break everything. )
ClaptoVaughn
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Dead Rising 3 on PC is poor port even if you don't uncap it.
I, however, uncapped the fps and other than sometimes unexplainable framerate drops to the 40s, the game never once crashed on me and I finished it.
What I'm guessing happened is that either Mikami or some other lead designer actually wanted the game to be a "cinematic experience" so they capped it a 30FPS and gave us that ridiculous aspect ratio. Only reason I can think of.
Posted in the OT, Gstaff says the game plays fine at 60 FPS. Trying to get a little more information out of him.
plagiarize
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It's certainly why the game has that aspect ratio. I hope they push these options to the foreground. I'm not sure if I'll stick with what Mikami intended or not. I certainly never hesitated to unlock the framerate in any of the Dead Space games, and I'm certainly not going back to playing RE4 at 60 fps...
but maybe for the first play through I'll go with the author's intent. *maybe*.
A really weird comment coming from someone who evidently plays games on pc?
Will still be better than the console versions.
The game looks pretty average, so i'm sure it's just some miscommunication.
Again with this soap opera bullshit.
*rolls eyes*
KINGofCRA5H
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"soap opera effect" what does that even mean
Maintenance
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Not cinematic enough.
It means that instead of trying to murder you with an axe, the monsters will dramatically inform you that they're pregnant and you're the father. It's a new direction for a horror game but I think it'll really work
It's when you hear it looks too smooth at 60fps and take a gif from coronation street.
CadetMahoney
Member
I'll just wait for some 60fps benchmarks before I decide.
I've never heard anyone use that in the context of games before. I agree with it wrt movies though.
It reads like a confirmation that it's locked at 30FPS but you're free to up the framerate like with Dead Rising 3, which is better than no option I guess. Though it doesn't exactly suggest good things about the port as a whole...
I laughed.
Oh, right, I had to switch to get the Iaito too.
IcyRhythms
Member
Sooooooooooo
Help me understand a bit more. With the debug commands on PC, they don't really know what type of wonky animations will occur when the game is unlocked to 60 through the console?
Help me understand a bit more. With the debug commands on PC, they don't really know what type of wonky animations will occur when the game is unlocked to 60 through the console?