Gormless Noodle
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You're just seeing things, stop using brown barracudas and come back to the real world.
yeah, let's name kids after sociopathic assholes. Nothing can go wrong with that
#notallpurplecats
You specieist.
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School Told to Call Kids Purple Penguins Because Boys and Girls Is Not Inclusive
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You're just seeing things, stop using brown barracudas and come back to the real world.
#notallpurplecats
You specieist.
ElRenoRaven
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Hey hey it's ok you purple penguin. Those other purple penguins can't harm you anymore. You're safe with us other purple penguins.
Interfectum
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A simple handout that a single school is using to help kids learn about inclusiveness makes you "hate our world?"
I identify as Mythic Rare, personally. Please don't batch me in with the common/uncommon janky plebs.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Do I find this asinine? Yes. But then again many things about kindergarten are pretty asinine she you think about it. Whatever, it's not hurting anyone.
Sho_Nuff82
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Bah, if you aren't unique-equipped Legendary, I want nothing to do with you.
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Xpike
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It's like those people who let their kid choose their own name, there's being politically correct, and being really dumb while pretending to push an agenda while at the same time not actually knowing what you're doing.
poppabk
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I have children, one of each, and think this is completely ridiculous. Not using the terms boys and girls is not going to change what you are describing, chances are the girl came up with her rule of only girls having a copy of frozen all on her own. At that age she probably holds a whole bunch of incorrect assumptions based on the small sample size of life she has encountered.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It might well be harmful though - not allowing kids to identify with their gender could well cause psychological issues.
PhoenixDark
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I'm going to assume the kids will naturally identify with their gender or say "you guys" like 99% of other kids. The school doesn't dictate how they act outside of school or even on the playground.
This was passed around to teachers in a middle school. It started a wildfire because it was passed out by a person from an equity committee in Lincoln, NE.
If you're a transgendered boy or girl, isn't "boys and girls" still inclusive? A transgendered male-to-female girl would just be a girl and so on, right? Even if someone identified as both or either would still be within the set "boys and girls". I can understand not wanting to have the kids line up separately though. Is the issue with individuals who'd rather not identify as either?
I mean, it seems easy enough to just use "everyone" or "children", but I don't think a teacher using "boys and girls" is being intentionally exclusive. But I don't really have great perspective on the issue, not having children and also being cisgendered.
Edit: I see now that "genderqueer" can be neither, both, or somewhere in between. So I think I understand a little better..
I mean, it seems easy enough to just use "everyone" or "children", but I don't think a teacher using "boys and girls" is being intentionally exclusive. But I don't really have great perspective on the issue, not having children and also being cisgendered.
Edit: I see now that "genderqueer" can be neither, both, or somewhere in between. So I think I understand a little better..
Nealand Liquor
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But what about the people wgo identify as animals! We can't hurt their feels!
This is fucking stupid.
ActuallyHulk
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This is beyond ridiculous. When are people going to draw a line and say that this kind of thing has gone beyond acceptance and into insanity? Purple penguins? Really?
AnathemicOne
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This is stupid, plain and simple.
Kano on the Phone
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How is this disallowing anything by changing the way kids are addressed?
This is a lot of anger over something that's such a small deal.
You'd probably still get whinging over who wants to be what. "But I want to be a skateboard!"
You'd need 3 lines though for the contrarians.
John Kowalski
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They won't spend their lives at school. They'll be influenced by environments outside the school just as much as they will by it, namely their own homes.
Plus the matter is not to prohibit the kids from identifying themselves as anything, but imprinting in them the notion that identity is a spectrum.
Escape Goat
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Dont tell me that, 292-48-5122.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Furthermore, it instructs teachers to interfere and interrupt if they ever hear a student talking about gender in terms of boys and girls so the student can learn that this is wrong.
Point out and inquire when you hear others referencing gender in a binary manner, it states. Ask things like . . . What makes you say that? I think of it a little differently. Provide counter-narratives that challenge students to think more expansively about their notions of gender.
It seems like the teachers are being told to actively challenge kids who talk about gender in terms of boys and girls.
Kano on the Phone
Member
It's encouraging them not to think of gender as a binary, not to slap a kid's hand if they call themselves a boy.
Where are you getting this? It's about teaching gender as a spectrum and not as a binary. That's actually teaching that there are more differences, not less. I feel like you just read the title and not the content of the article.
You and me both.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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This seems incredibly dumb. Like "I'm colorblind, everyone is just human to me" dumb.
The key difference is why those people somehow develop that dumb mentality over years, these kids are having it instilled into them from an early age
The key difference is why those people somehow develop that dumb mentality over years, these kids are having it instilled into them from an early age
Red Chocobo
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A few years ago I would have called this fake.
But these days....
But these days....
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Complete and utter nonsense.
too complicated
Kano on the Phone
Member
Not treating people differently based on their race is dumb? Care to elaborate?
Cizeta-Moroder
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Prole(#b95bf9), you must deal with the consequences of constructing such social inhibitions to yourself.
Kano on the Phone
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What about this leads you to believe it will make kids less inclusive and not more?
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Yes, in a way it is. Not acknowledging that there are different races and acting like everyone is treated the same is dumb. It's why race threads always devolve into victim blaming, because people try to project their experiences as what everyone deals with, when that's not the case.
Acting like I, as a black male, am treated exactly the same as a white male is nothing but naivety and pure ignorance. Maybe in a few hundred years we can start treating everyone as just "human", but now, and in the coming generations, that definitely isn't the case. Not when racism, sexism and other forms of bigotry still exist. Pretending they don't is almost as damaging as partaking in it.
There's better ways of teaching kids to treat others equally and to be all inclusive then pretending that differences don't exist.
Kano on the Phone
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This isn't that though. This isn't "treat everyone as if their experiences and hardships don't matter," it's "be more sensitive to the fact that everyone isn't the same." They aren't saying differences don't exist, they're saying that there isn't just two choices.
I don't see how teaching a child not to treat someone differently because they're a different color is a bad thing. You can teach someone to not be a bigot without teaching them bigotry doesn't exist.
ymoc
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To make a child take a decision by themselves as to what they identify with or about other life decisions is child abuse.
Children are not fully developed human beings.
They are children and until they fully grow up they HAVE to be guided and taught.
Adults should NEVER give children the burden of responsibilty.
Children have the right to be children.
And no, you're not a liberal justice fighter when you let your child decide their life for him\herself (especially at such young age). You are fundamentally neglecting your child. You are guilty of child abuse.
Now, concerning this gender issue. It is complete and utter madness.
The ONLY thing that society should and must regulate is how people treat each other: mutual respect, mutual acceptance, empathy.
To stop a child from calling his classmate a boy or a girl is so beyond fucked up, I can't even comprehend.
When an individual is born that falls outside of standard classification in society, may that be sexual or whatever, the only thing that society should do is to accept such an individual as they are and treat them the same as everyone else. But that individual will be DIFFERENT. But in the end, we ALL are DIFFERENT one way or another. There's no need to find a common denomitor for everyone and everything, especially in the name of inclussion.
Children are not fully developed human beings.
They are children and until they fully grow up they HAVE to be guided and taught.
Adults should NEVER give children the burden of responsibilty.
Children have the right to be children.
And no, you're not a liberal justice fighter when you let your child decide their life for him\herself (especially at such young age). You are fundamentally neglecting your child. You are guilty of child abuse.
Now, concerning this gender issue. It is complete and utter madness.
The ONLY thing that society should and must regulate is how people treat each other: mutual respect, mutual acceptance, empathy.
To stop a child from calling his classmate a boy or a girl is so beyond fucked up, I can't even comprehend.
When an individual is born that falls outside of standard classification in society, may that be sexual or whatever, the only thing that society should do is to accept such an individual as they are and treat them the same as everyone else. But that individual will be DIFFERENT. But in the end, we ALL are DIFFERENT one way or another. There's no need to find a common denomitor for everyone and everything, especially in the name of inclussion.
im no goddamn purpe penguin
OldAsUrSock
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Boy, girl both or neither? Society has officially gone crazy over political correctness. There are boys and there are girls. These are decided by the Chromosomes. Two X chromosomes and you are a girl and if you have an X and a Y chromosome then you are a male. It is dumb to say that you can be both or neither when genetically you are one or the other.
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