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The Formula 1 2015 Pre-Season |OT| The Power of Dreams
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Cheeseman Battitude
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Scarbs says the design and packaging of the McLaren / Honda is way ahead of the competition.
Where is that from? Scarbsf1.com hasn't been updated since September last year.
Scarbs' comments on the Honda packaging seems weird to me. For one, his drawing doesn't show a more compact form factor. Not to mention, McLaren doesn't have the tightest packaging right now, as they can't cool the damn thing. They have one of the more bulbous engine covers on the grid. They slimmed the sidepods, but that cooling solution just got stacked on top of the engine.
Interesting that they didn't go with a split turbo. That design is probably what accounts for Merc's power advantage. It should give them an advantage on intake temps. They should be able to run with more compression than the other two engines. I thought the reason people thought Honda would be able to compete on power was because they'd pursue a similar solution. If that layout is true, Merc might be the power leader for a long time to come. PEACE.
Interesting that they didn't go with a split turbo. That design is probably what accounts for Merc's power advantage. It should give them an advantage on intake temps. They should be able to run with more compression than the other two engines. I thought the reason people thought Honda would be able to compete on power was because they'd pursue a similar solution. If that layout is true, Merc might be the power leader for a long time to come. PEACE.
Scarbs writes for Autosport+.
Good summary of the Alonso situation from the BBC. A little long so I won't block quote it here.
Put me in the doubters camp, too. The weight distribution on that engine setup just seems... off.
Thanks. I stand by my original assertion that something really weird happened, and McLaren PR is to blame for any conspiracy theories flying around. They weren't punctual, clear nor consistent with their messages about the incident. I just wish the best for Alonso. He doesn't need question marks swirling about his health to start the season. PEACE.
I think I just started to make the Van der Gaarde vs. Sauber thing a topic in the Swiss Newspapers. Made a comment on an unrelated F1 Article on 20min.ch (largest free "newspaper" in switzerland) and 30 minutes later there was an article on this (pretty much a copy from the AMuS text). Maybe we can get a statement from Sauber on this.
nature boy
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One of the largest and more credible newspapers in Spain.
Fate of German GP to be decided by this weekend.
Wax Free Vanilla
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I don't think the image is from Scarbs, there's an audio interview in the Macca thread on f1 technical where he says the McLaren/Honda design is ahead of the others.
Got it, thanks!
Mastah
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We're not posting from someone's blog. It's basically the New York Times or Washington Post of Spain, mainly Madrid.
brotkasten
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I've love to see the car. I'm wondering if it looks anything like the wind tunnel model from Marussia.
Ferrari is still going to supply the engines?
Ferrari is still going to supply the engines?
I've love to see the car. I'm wondering if it looks anything like the wind tunnel model from Marussia.
Ferrari is still going to supply the engines?
Yes
nature boy
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They say they're working on the 2015 car, but it will depend on how competitive the 2014-based car is.
But it's funny we still haven't seen anything of the car, namely the livery and official team name.
AMuS speculating that 2016 Manor might me MP-30 (!): http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...t-mclaren-ferraris-haasf1-modell-9300169.html
But it's funny we still haven't seen anything of the car, namely the livery and official team name.
AMuS speculating that 2016 Manor might me MP-30 (!): http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...t-mclaren-ferraris-haasf1-modell-9300169.html
My apologies. It was a sincere question as I had not heard of it before. I'm not fluent in Spanish so I can't really look at the rest of the site. I guess I could have googled it to check but I figured I would just ask.
e, still hoping for the best for Manor/Marussia
brotkasten
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Vettel always wanted to drive for Ferrari at some point and never really made a secret out of it.
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Mastah
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Indeed, but secret meetings with Montezemolo right after Alonso's efforts in 2010 or 2012 Ferrari crapbox are quite interesting.
Spanish press is saying that Alonso was cleared by his doctors yesterday (no concussion syntoms anymore? What is the protocol does anyone know?). It seems so strange to see this situation, I've seen Alonso being cleared at least 5 times this week. When does the 21 days clock start? Yesterday?.
Did you thought the multiple people hinting at a LOI signed a couple of years ago were just kidding around?
This was like the Alonso move to Ferrari. Everyone knew it would happen sooner or later, in the case of Vettel it happened 1 year earlier because RBR wasn't the dominating force so it couldn't avoid him activating his get-out clause.
Well it's not like Alonso was really being a good boy and not visiting other teams factories while still under contract with Ferrari, right? Remember the infamous trip to RBR begging for a seat in 2013 than Abad suddenly tried to hide as "I'm just here talking to Horner and Dietmer because of Carlos Sainz Jr. even when Felix da Costa and Kvyat are the only real contenders for a future seat"?
Did you thought the multiple people hinting at a LOI signed a couple of years ago were just kidding around?
This was like the Alonso move to Ferrari. Everyone knew it would happen sooner or later, in the case of Vettel it happened 1 year earlier because RBR wasn't the dominating force so it couldn't avoid him activating his get-out clause.
Well it's not like Alonso was really being a good boy and not visiting other teams factories while still under contract with Ferrari, right? Remember the infamous trip to RBR begging for a seat in 2013 than Abad suddenly tried to hide as "I'm just here talking to Horner and Dietmer because of Carlos Sainz Jr. even when Felix da Costa and Kvyat are the only real contenders for a future seat"?
Even though he's cleared as being perfectly fit, when it comes down to high grade concussions, having 2 of them by nature of some freak accident does a lot of damage. He could definitely drive this week, and finish the race no problem. But they're scared about the big "IF". Which is, What if for some crazy reason he gets in an accident again and hurts his head. With concussions, the longer you wait, the better it is for your well being. You could say McLaren are being SUPER OVERLY CAUTIOUS, but at this point, why risk another PR nightmare?
"[This is] to minimise the chances of second impact syndrome, as is normal medical procedure when treating athletes after concussions.
"In order to limit those environmental risk factors, specifically, his doctors have advised that he should not compete in the imminent Australian Grand Prix." Autosport
Yes that part makes perfectly sense and in my opinion it should be FIA mandatory like Sid Watkins wanted. If you get a concussion, you are only cleared to drive when you are free of that second impact syndrome (the so called 21 days). Don't leave that on the hands of the driver, imagine someone saying that to a driver fighting for a WDC if he has to miss 2 races because of SIS risk. He will probably told the doctors to fuck off. That's why the sport should take that option out of their hands in my opinion. ALthough the risk it would be what happens in football and NFL which is drivers hiding symptoms from doctors. Alvaro Pereira lost consciousness during the England game on the WC, mild concussion and still stayed in the game. Multiple NFL players hide concussions because they know they are not allowed on the field if they got a concussion.
My doubt is that we've seen news about Alonso being cleared at least 3 times (hospital, last week and now yesterday), so my doubt is when does the 21 days actually start.
Big Takeover
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If you want an auto racing comparison, NASCAR's Dale Earnhardt Jr went through pretty much exactly as you described a couple of years ago. Fairly severe concussion with another one four weeks later. It really messed him up, and he ended pulling out of two Chase races.
News story
Video of him speaking about it after the fact
Subsequently, NASCAR now has a neurological baseline test that they put the drivers through before the beginning of the season. That allows them to determine to what degree they've been injured, and to what degree they've healed.
Every injury is different however. 21 days is specific to FA in this particular case.
Which driver should you support quiz.
http://wtf1.co.uk/which-2015-f1-driver-should-you-support/
http://wtf1.co.uk/which-2015-f1-driver-should-you-support/
i got RIC
Big Takeover
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I got Hulkenberg.
I think that's because I said I didn't care about personality, and it must have been like RLY?! Got just the guy for you
I think that's because I said I didn't care about personality, and it must have been like RLY?! Got just the guy for you
Mohonky
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Scarbs says the design and packaging of the McLaren / Honda is way ahead of the competition.
I do not understand the approach from Honda here.
I cant even understand why Ferrari and Renault havent copied the Merc design, splitting the turbo and compressor housing just seems to make a shit load of sense. I can understand that the connecting shaft needs to be incredibly well balanced and the extra weight of it likely makes it a tad slower (though with the light weight materials I am sure they would be using that could be negligable) but the other positives you get from it, it just makes a lot more sense.
JadedWriter
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You should do one with one of Buttons Honda era beards and Lewis with his current wtf hipster hair.I got Valtteri BOTTAS. Wtf1 pls.
I made a couple more faces for the upcoming season.
NihonTiger90
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Got Ricciardo as well, which sounds about right.
It's so weird. Wasn't one of the reasons the Renault was so down on power compared to the Mercs because of the lack of a split turbo? Surely knowing that, Honda had enough time to change the design in time for this year's season.
Maybe Renault will be closer in power to the Mercs than 2014 and Honda will be where Renault were last year.
The Merc split turbo helps because it gets cooler air into the engine and hotter exhaust into the turbo, since both runs in the respective directions are slightly shorter.
Honda must have been some way into the design before everyone worked it out, that's the only thing I can think of. Either that or they were unable to make the connection between front and rear strong enough. We know it wasn't easy for Mercedes.
Honda must have been some way into the design before everyone worked it out, that's the only thing I can think of. Either that or they were unable to make the connection between front and rear strong enough. We know it wasn't easy for Mercedes.
Graphics Horse
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Result: Valtteri Bottas
Which is good, I expect him to do well this year.
Which is good, I expect him to do well this year.
Holy shit, that quote. I hope it's made up.
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