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[TAJ]

And you leap from him not wanting others to touch them to him obviously wanting to touch them?

It's not that big of a leap. Jealousy is a bitch.

 

[vas_a_morir]

It's not that big of a leap. Jealousy is a bitch.

You trying to pull some Griffith* mind-jitsu on him!

*comic reference.

 

[MathLover75]

Clearly - not sure why you guys are arguing about this when everyone has a different idea of what makes a good person.

Personally I agree that they're all terrible, but I can understand why someone that holds anti-gay views might view them in a positive light.

There are many who are just as supportive of gay rights as you seem to be who don't hold those who disagree as being bad people. Being for gay marriage doesn't make you a good perosn and being against gay marriage doesn't make one a bad person.

 

[LycanXIII]

How did the father catch him leaving the girl's room?

 

[Deified Data]

There are many who are just as supportive of gay rights as you seem to be who don't hold those who disagree as being bad people. Being for gay marriage doesn't make you a good perosn and being against gay marriage doesn't make one a bad person.

We've already been over how all of that is subjective and not worth arguing over.

 

[LosDaddie]

Having the girl's age would help here. Good on the dad for taking his son to the cops, though.

And fuck the FRC and anyone who works for them.

 

[Samara]

So is he ninja dad or was this a sibling or something?

Boys and girls and non married are not allowed to be alone unless chaperoned.
Dad is like a hawk, daily.

 

[TAJ]

How did the father catch him leaving the girl's room?

Maybe he put a video camera in her bedroom like Gordon Ramsay.

 

[Jenov]

Maybe he put a video camera in her bedroom like Gordon Ramsay.

wut?

 

[TAJ]

wut?

He installed a camera in his daughter's room when she was 15. He claimed it was to make sure she didn't have boys in there, but y'know...

 

[Jenov]

Holy shit update:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...leged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

The police report on this got released, and it's worse than we thought. He has been molesting his younger sisters for years, ugh.

 

[riotous]

Holy shit update:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...leged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

The police report on this got released, and it's worse than we thought. He has been molesting his younger sisters for years, ugh.

Did it say it was his sisters or are you assuming?

 

[Jenov]

Did it say it was his sisters or are you assuming?

From the report: "the alleged victims... who live with their parents Michelle and Jim Bob..."

 

[mr2xxx]

Props to the dad, must of been a hard decision.

 

[CDX]

Holy shit update:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...leged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

The police report on this got released, and it's worse than we thought. He has been molesting his younger sisters for years, ugh.

Other bombshells in the police report are: Josh Duggar was investigated for multiple sex offenses — including forcible fondling — against five minors. Some of the alleged offenses investigated were felonies. Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar were interview by the Springdale Police department on Dec. 12, 2006. The report says that James told police he was alerted in March, 2002 by a female minor that Josh — who turned 14-years-old that month — had been touching her breasts and genitals while she slept. This allegedly happened on multiple occasions. In 2006, Jim Bob told police that in July, 2002 Josh admitted to fondling a minor’s breasts while she slept. “James said that they disciplined (redacted, Josh) after this incident.” The family did not alert authorities.

Jim Bob told police that about nine months later in March, 2003 “there was another incident.” Josh was again accused by a female minor of touching her breasts and genitals. Josh was accused by several minors of touching their genitals, often when they slept, but at times when they were awake.

Fuck him.

 

[tcrunch]

Jim Bob then “met with the elders of his church and told them what was going on.” No one alerted the police or any other law enforcement agency. Instead they decided to send Josh to a “program [that] consisted of hard physical work and counseling. James said that [redacted, Josh] was in the program from March 17, 2003 until July 17, 2003.”

He said the program was a “Christian program.” Michelle Duggar later admitted to police that Josh did not receive counseling and instead had been sent during that time to a family friend who was in the home remodeling business.

Asked about the training center that Jim Bob said Josh was sent to, Michelle told police, according to the report, “it was not really a training center. Det. [Darrell] Hignite asked if the guy [redacted, Josh] talked to was a certified counselor. She said no. She said it was a guy they know in Little Rock that is remodeling a building. Det. Hignite asked if the guy was more of a mentor. She said “kind of.”

The Duggars told police that Josh “apologized” to the female minors and that they had “forgiven” him.

[...]

Jim Bob told police in 2006 that when Josh returned home in 2003, Jim Bob, accompanied by some of his church elders, took Josh to Arkansas State Trooper, Jim Hutchens. Jim Bob knew Hutchens personally. Hutchens did not take any official action and instead gave Josh a “very stern talk.” As In Touch magazine reports exclusively in this week’s issue, Hutchens is now serving 56-years in prison for child pornography. He took no action on the Duggar case.

[...]

Police had to abandon pursuing charges because the [then] three-year statute of limitations had expired.

The alleged victims all described a consistent scenario of Josh touching their breasts and genitals and later apologizing. They said Jim Bob was aware of the situation and did not go to authorities for more than a year.

Charming family. Great dad.

 

[riotous]

From the report: "the alleged victims... who live with their parents Michelle and Jim Bob..."

Ah, thanks. The article failed to mention it, I only saw the one page.

Disturbing.

 

[Stet]

Why?

The dad obviously enjoys fucking his wife.

Also need more sources. It's InTouch, c'mon. They run complete fabrications all the time.

The dad's only officially fucked his wife 19 times.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Props to the dad, must of been a hard decision.

Might wanna retract those props

Other bombshells in the police report are: Josh Duggar was investigated for multiple sex offenses — including forcible fondling — against five minors. Some of the alleged offenses investigated were felonies. Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar were interview by the Springdale Police department on Dec. 12, 2006. The report says that James told police he was alerted in March, 2002 by a female minor that Josh — who turned 14-years-old that month — had been touching her breasts and genitals while she slept. This allegedly happened on multiple occasions. In 2006, Jim Bob told police that in July, 2002 Josh admitted to fondling a minor’s breasts while she slept. “James said that they disciplined (redacted, Josh) after this incident.” The family did not alert authorities.

4 years!

Jim Bob then “met with the elders of his church and told them what was going on.” No one alerted the police or any other law enforcement agency. Instead they decided to send Josh to a “program [that] consisted of hard physical work and counseling. James said that [redacted, Josh] was in the program from March 17, 2003 until July 17, 2003.”

He said the program was a “Christian program.” Michelle Duggar later admitted to police that Josh did not receive counseling and instead had been sent during that time to a family friend who was in the home remodeling business.

Asked about the training center that Jim Bob said Josh was sent to, Michelle told police, according to the report, “it was not really a training center. Det. [Darrell] Hignite asked if the guy [redacted, Josh] talked to was a certified counselor. She said no. She said it was a guy they know in Little Rock that is remodeling a building. Det. Hignite asked if the guy was more of a mentor. She said “kind of.”

Father of the year material for sure.


But hey as for Josh just because he's an anti-gay activist who campaigns also against anti-bullying measures and molests 14 year olds, doesn't mean he can't be a good person. Everyone has flaws.

 

[riotous]

Props to the dad, must of been a hard decision.

The Dad did barely nothing as his son molested his daughters repeatedly; the supposed "taking him to the Police" was actually him having a family friend/Police officer scold his son four years after the first abuse allegation.

That family friend is in prison on child porn charges.

It is a difficult situation for the Dad, I don't envy that position, but "props"? The actual police investigation was stonewalled by that same father.

 

[levious]

Hope the church gets investigated for this as well. How many times have they hid something like this.

 

[Jenov]

I feel bad for the Dad because that's gotta be a difficult position to be in... but come on man, protect your other children, so awful. The police department involved was also super negligent and let the statute of limitations pass so nothing can be done.

Josh Duggar has like 4 children of his own now...

 

[Calvero]

The Dad did barely nothing as his son molested his daughters repeatedly; the supposed "taking him to the Police" was actually him having a family friend/Police officer scold his son four years after the first abuse allegation.

That family friend is in prison on child porn charges.

It is a difficult situation for the Dad, I don't envy that position, but "props"? The actual police investigation was stonewalled by that same father.

I don't think he saw the update.

 

[excelsiorlef]

When the family was scheduled to appear on Oprah Winfrey’s talk show in 2006, an email was sent to the show warning them about the alleged molestation. The email was written by a 61-year-old female who is not identified.

Harpo Studios faxed the letter to the Department of Human Services hotline. The report was then opened for investigation, leading to the investigation by Springdale police.

When police asked Jim Bob to bring Josh in for an interview in 2006, he attempted to hire a lawyer and refused to produce his son for questioning. At least two lawyers refused to take his case. “Det. Hignite received a voice mail from Mr. Duggar stating that [redacted] had hired an attorney and would not be coming in for an interview.”

So I love how refusing to cooperate even after 4 years of abuse under your own fucking roof and basically being dragged into the station turned into as soon as he found out he dragged his son to the station LOL.Oh and of course the sexual predator cop was his friend


BTW Read this sentence and tell me this isn't fucked and full of red flag, alarm bells and general nastiness

The Duggars told police that Josh “apologized” to the female minors and that they had “forgiven” him.

Of course he did and of course she did and I'm sure the family and the church put no pressure on her at all to keep quiet and forgive him like Jesus would want you to. I'm sure there was never any mention about her ad for Josh it would be if she said anything.

Fuck this family.

I feel bad for the Dad because that's gotta be a difficult position to be in... but come on man, protect your other children, so awful. The police department involved was also super negligent and let the statute of limitations pass so nothing can be done.

Josh Duggar has like 4 children of his own now...

I really hope you just haven't seen the update.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Props to the dad, must of been a hard decision.

Does he deserve any props, given that he hid this for years and even took his son to "talk" with a friendly cop who just so happened to be a pedophile too?

Jim Bob told police in 2006 that when Josh returned home in 2003, Jim Bob, accompanied by some of his church elders, took Josh to Arkansas State Trooper, Jim Hutchens. Jim Bob knew Hutchens personally. Hutchens did not take any official action and instead gave Josh a “very stern talk.” As In Touch magazine reports exclusively in this week’s issue, Hutchens is now serving 56-years in prison for child pornography. He took no action on the Duggar case.

I doubt this is an isolated incident. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the father has abused his daughters.

 

[stuminus3]

Not surprised at all and there's no doubt in my mind that this goes much further than anyone will ever be willing to admit. I especially feel terrible for his kids. The rubbish him and his family fill their heads with.

 

[cr_blah_blah]

You know what they say, God always has a plan.

 

[Peru]

Yes...just because you hold anti-gay views doesn't automatically make someone a bad person... Antiquated views? Yes. Offensive view even? Sure. Bad person? Your definition and mine of a bad person obviously isn't the same.

People with attributes that one considers to be negative can still be good people.

Hitler was good to his dog - this nuanced perspective does not hide the fact that he's what I and most would consider a bad person. The Duggars may be friendly and kind to their family and friends but if they spend much of their life campaigning against the rights of a sexual minority, one of the most thoroughly evil acts of bigotry, with no political argument to back it up, only simple hate and prejudice, then yes, that does mean I would never in a million years call them good people. In fact I will call him a genuine dipshit.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Can't believe a church tried to cover up a sex scandal.

 

[Timeaisis]

I'm not a fan of the Duggars, but good on the dad for reporting his son for this.

EDIT: Nevermind.

You missed part of the thread.

I sure did. :\
Gross.

 

[ReAxion]

I'm not a fan of the Duggars, but good on the dad for reporting his son for this.

You missed part of the thread.

 

[entremet]

Holy shit update:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...leged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

The police report on this got released, and it's worse than we thought. He has been molesting his younger sisters for years, ugh.

Damn. They got the goods. Very gross. This is terrible, but being his sisters makes it really disturbing.

 

[Brian Griffin]

I've always felt bad for all those kids but now this? Damn.

 

[uncredited male]

The Duggars told police that Josh “apologized” to the female minors and that they had “forgiven” him.

Well, looks like we are done here.

EDIT - I forgot where I am posting. /s

 

[mr2xxx]

Does he deserve any props, given that he hid this for years and even took his son to "talk" with a friendly cop who just so happened to be a pedophile too?


I doubt this is an isolated incident. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the father has abused his daughters.

Pretty obvious I missed that along with others who just read the op.

 

[kirblar]

F'n hell. He needed to be reported immediately and kept away from any other kids for the rest of his life. This sort of thing doesn't suddenly "get better" for people.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Well, looks like we are done here.

EDIT - I forgot where I am posting. /s

This also means Ja,es literally confessed on behalf of his son to the police and they did nothing. Ok well the pedophile friend of his did nothing.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Beyond all the truly important matters here which are 1000 times more important, I hope this is the end of yet another awful reality show.

 

[uncredited male]

Are they going to change the name of their show now?

 

[Red Hood]

I have trouble with two things:

1 - I don't see the age of this child specified. For all we know she's 16 of 17 and, while still a child according to the law, it's very different than an 11 year old child, or younger.

2 - I don't see how this individual being an anti-gay activist is relevant to him being a suspect of child abuse. If anything, it's whipping up sentiment and some might even say propaganda.

This article reads very sensational and subjective.

 

[tcrunch]

Holy shit update:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...leged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

The police report on this got released, and it's worse than we thought. He has been molesting his younger sisters for years, ugh.

Can this be edited into the top of the OP so people don't keep replying to old info

 

[riotous]

This article reads very sensational and subjective.

If you read the update.. it's actually sort of the opposite.

According to the police report it's alleged that he abused his sisters for years; it started when he was 14.. his nearest in age sister I believe would have been 12. But the report has an allegation that it was several of his sisters. He had sisters aged 9,10 and 12 at that age. And it allegedly went on for years.

They at least admitted to a police officer (family friend) that part of the allegations are true.

The initial story made it sound like the Dad immediately went to the police, the truth is far from that.

 

[butzopower]

I don't really know the full story on this family, but color me shocked that an extremely sexually repressive household leads to kids with this kind of behavior.

 

[block tower]

these people are human scum.

 

[Jenov]

In one of the victim interviews it says the parents spank the children with rods as punishment. Ow.

 

[Laekon]

Family name always makes me think of this.

 

[BertramCooper]

I hope this somehow brings down the Family Research Council.

 

[anaron]

dying at anyone saying they're good people

yes, the anti-gay, quiver movement FREAKS are clearly examples

 

[Enzom21]

I don't know the particular situation behind this guy, and he probably is a giant douche. Just commenting on the fact that I believe it's possible for someone to still be good person even if they antigay/antiwhatever.

So do you think people in the Klan can be good people?

 

[BertramCooper]

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