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Archer [Mafia] |OT| Wait, I Had Something For This

someone is using darryl's pick to cast some suss on him??? or darryl is his reincarnation from AC game and is playing a terrific game that will kill us all at the end :<

.... meh, we were doing so well on N1 :<

*joins the queue on waiting on el topo's hyped up reveal*

come on~ come on~
 

cabot

Member
Well with questionbros complainer list and your useless fucking poster list have one thing in common , 2 out of 3 were town aligned.

Also not sure why he didn't mention me there, I definitely had issues with ezekels claim being too powerful. Seems like a mafia making day targets, and I was considered safe so I was ignored
 

Enker

Member
I want to see what you have before el topo says anything.

My updated list of information. Feel free to poke holes if I missed something.

List of the Fallen:
Visualante2 (Lynched D1) - Doctor #1 - could protect one person at night
Zubz (Lynched D2) - Ordinary Drone
Bubeting (Killed N2) - Analyst, could listen in on the Mission night chat, could not post
RoytheOne - (Killed N2) Doctor #2, Clone - could protect one person at night AFTER Visualante was dead

Known Facts
Nobody died N1
Two deaths N2 (so Two deaths in one night is possible)

List of People in Town Each Night:
N1: TheGoddamn, roytheone, cooljeanius, Septimus Prime, Burbeting, cabbeh, Mike_Hawk, Enker, ElTopo, EzekelRage, YNNNY, Zubz, QuantumBro, Seath, Hobo, Haly, Squidy, AwesomePossum

N2: KILLED (roytheone, Burbeting) TheGoddamn, cooljeanius, Septimus, cabbeh, Mike_Hawk, Enker, YNNNY, Arkos, QuantumBro, Seath, Hobo, Haly, Squidy, AwesomePossum

Power Roles In Play
D3NEW - (Assumed) KGB Investigator Role
(Assumed) Honeypot, only one who can kill Archer
(Assumed) Neutral Serial Killer (may be same as Honeypot?)


The Volunteers
N1 - Mazre, GLT/Darryl, Palmer, Arkos
N2 - EzekelRAGE, Mazre, Palmer, Darryl
N3 - (as of right now) Mazre, SquidyJ, Cabbeh, EzekelRAGE

“Assumed Facts”
(Note - Yes, I did see your update on this Cabbeh but am keeping it the way I had it given tonight’s events)

KGB kill as a group and one person PMs the kill order

Ouro considers it a “Honeypot” kill if the Honeypot is in the same group as those ordering the kill (option B here is that the Honeypot must message the kill to Ouro).

D3NEW - People on a mission can’t kill those in town. This is in the rules but...

D3NEW - KGB can only kill once per night

Ezekel is Archer, Honeypot exists

Ezekel had an attempt on his life N1, but not by the honeypot thus nobody died.

At least 3 KGB based on starting player total.

D3NEW - Per El Topo, apparently there are unaligned roles. Odds are high that at least one of these people is a Serial Killer role.

D3NEW - The KGB have been VERY specific with their kills. They likely have a role that can investigate or who already knows who we are.

Honeypot is NOT Palmer, Mazre or Darryl if the role is as described.


Potential Suspects:
D3REVISED - Honeypot is Neutral and needs to kill Archer to win. If this is the case, then Mazre, Darryl and Palmer are NOT the Honeypot.

D3New: Our list of suspects is TWO of the following: TheGoddamn, cooljeanius, Septimus, cabbeh, Mike_Hawk, Enker, YNNNY, Arkos, QuantumBro, Seath, Hobo, Haly, Squidy, AwesomePossum. This is the list of people who were in town N2 and relies on the assumption that people on the missions can’t kill people left in town.
 

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
Whoa what the fuck? That's extremely good for KGB. I'm assuming they investigated at least one of those kills last night (both?). Damnit we need to get one of those fuckers today.

My guess is that Barry is unaligned (serial killer?) possibly working with Katya.
 

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
Suspect list off the top of my head:

Mike Hawk
Septimus prime
Death
Squid face

I'm wondering if somebody on the missions the first 2 nights were using it for "cover" and are secretly scum that can cross kill (kill outside of mission or vice versa)

Gah the paranoia is rising
 

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
*seath autocorrected to Death! I'm not saying I'm just saying. He definitely has to explain his shenanigans and like Now
 
I think YNONOY should stay home today, she's clearly delirious.

If there were two kills last night, why was there zero on Night 1, can we assume roy protected someone/himself successfully and a failed kill on Ezekel?

The PM says doctor can't protect themselves, but it's still possible that Roy protected someone during Night 1. (I'm gonna go look through his post to see who he suspected as town maybe he protected one of them)

I'm still trying to understand how roy could get killed. Won't be able to write down everything, but I'll try to give a short summary in a few minutes.

What happened to this

I will explain myself after the night has ended. I want to thank you for your trust. Even if I die tonight, rest assured your trust will not be for naught.
 

Kevyt

Member
Well, looks like I have internet!! God Bless AT&T~ =D

*seath autocorrected to Death! I'm not saying I'm just saying. He definitely has to explain his shenanigans and like Now

It auto-corrects in mine too!

What do you want me to explain? Ask and ye shall receive! :p

But Squidyj is still my prime suspect. I just have a strong feeling he is scum.

Also, why didn't Honeypot just target ER knowing that he is Archer, since only HP can target Archer and just win? Unless HP can't target Archer or ER is with the KGB/isn't Sterling Archer.

Something is really off here...

I'm not sure I can trust EzekelRage anymore.
 
Damn, double kill.

VOTE: YesNOnoNOYes

So yeah, she says a lot of things that make her seem like Agency, but both nights in a row, she jumped onto a last-minute vote for the people who ultimately got taken out with no particular explanation.

Obviously I'm still very suspicious of squidyj, since he was the facilitator to last-minute swing the vote both times, but I'm playing a hunch here.
 

El Topo

Member
I suppose I can't just sit this one out, right? It's a bit late over here (past midnight), so I won't write an essay.

I'm unaligned.

That's why I was certain that Seath was telling the truth about his alignment, but given my role I am also sceptical regarding his actual role reveal. My role is not related to the TV show, so if that is representative of other neutral roles, Seath is lying.

I assume, I wasn't given any specific information by Ouro, that someone blocked my role during the first night. I had planned to use my power on roytheone, but got no results and still had my gadgets, so that's the most reasonable explanation.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to back off from roy during the second day, as Palmer pointed out. I assumed that I might have stirred up someone that decided to block me, so my plan was to ignore him and then check what he was doing.

My general game plan was to draw just enough (minor) suspicion while not doing much, so that mafia would leave me alive. Unfortunately Palmer threw a wrench in my plans by forcing me to defend myself early on and suddenly I was suspect numero uno, which forced me to reveal too much too early.

As for my actual powers and win condition, I'd rather not reveal everything just yet. I think that is understandable from my perspective, given Crab's dos and don'ts. What I can tell you, is that I can still kill someone once, but I can no longer track someone.
I leave this place full of insane people when a certain player, given the role name I'm pretty sure not ISIS, dies.
 
If there was a “clear hint” why all the hype about today?

The clear hint meaning he's a neutral role and either directly or indirectly cause the death of either Roy or Burbeting?

Directly as is he chose to kill. Indirectly as in switched them (just like in ONUW)
 
Also, just to put this out right now, if the end tally ends up being close between squidyj and someone else--even YNNNY, who I'm voting for right now--I will change my vote to squidyj.
 
Well, looks like I have internet!! God Bless AT&T~ =D



It auto-corrects in mine too!

What do you want me to explain? Ask and ye shall receive! :p

But Squidyj is still my prime suspect. I just have a strong feeling he is scum.

Also, why didn't Honeypot just target ER knowing that he is Archer, since only HP can target Archer and just win? Unless HP can't target Archer or ER is with the KGB/isn't Sterling Archer.

Something is really off here...

I'm not sure I can trust EzekelRage anymore.

Enker slight went over this earlier, if we believe that ER is Archer and that he can only be killed by HP, then HP can't be Mazre, Palmer or Daryl, because ER is still alive.
 

squidyj

Member
I suppose I can't just sit this one out, right? It's a bit late over here (past midnight), so I won't write an essay.

I'm unaligned.

That's why I was certain that Seath was telling the truth about his alignment, but given my role I am also sceptical regarding his actual role reveal. My role is not related to the TV show, so if that is representative of other neutral roles, Seath is lying.

I assume, I wasn't given any specific information by Ouro, that someone blocked my role during the first night. I had planned to use my power on roytheone, but got no results and still had my gadgets, so that's the most reasonable explanation.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to back off from roy during the second day, as Palmer pointed out. I assumed that I might have stirred up someone that decided to block me, so my plan was to ignore him and then check what he was doing.

My general game plan was to draw just enough (minor) suspicion while not doing much, so that mafia would leave me alive. Unfortunately Palmer threw a wrench in my plans by forcing me to defend myself early on and suddenly I was suspect numero uno, which forced me to reveal too much too early.

As for my actual powers and win condition, I'd rather not reveal everything just yet. I think that is understandable from my perspective, given Crab's dos and don'ts. What I can tell you, is that I can still kill someone once, but I can no longer track someone.
I leave this place full of insane people when a certain player, given the role name I'm pretty sure not ISIS, dies.

no it's not understandable. Like at all. You said you had shit to say today. and this is it?

Vote: El Topo
 

Kevyt

Member
And to further elaborate from my previous poat, a plot from ER and the KGB to draw out the real Sterling Archer.

There is a possibility that a member of the KGB can investigate other role members, like a cop, and then plan their targets accordingly. It was like that in the AC game with the Mafia and the roomies.

The two doctors are dead, and burbeting who had an investigator sort of role was taken out.

Are we sure that Mafia couldn't evict anyone in night 1, or maybe they waited for they had planned two lynches in one night with Intel in certain players? As in, they weren't random targets at all.

I sort of don't buy the whole "KGB targeted ER, but he is Archer and thus couldn't lynch him.
 
I suppose I can't just sit this one out, right? It's a bit late over here (past midnight), so I won't write an essay.

I'm unaligned.

That's why I was certain that Seath was telling the truth about his alignment, but given my role I am also sceptical regarding his actual role reveal. My role is not related to the TV show, so if that is representative of other neutral roles, Seath is lying.

I assume, I wasn't given any specific information by Ouro, that someone blocked my role during the first night. I had planned to use my power on roytheone, but got no results and still had my gadgets, so that's the most reasonable explanation.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to back off from roy during the second day, as Palmer pointed out. I assumed that I might have stirred up someone that decided to block me, so my plan was to ignore him and then check what he was doing.

My general game plan was to draw just enough (minor) suspicion while not doing much, so that mafia would leave me alive. Unfortunately Palmer threw a wrench in my plans by forcing me to defend myself early on and suddenly I was suspect numero uno, which forced me to reveal too much too early.

As for my actual powers and win condition, I'd rather not reveal everything just yet. I think that is understandable from my perspective, given Crab's dos and don'ts. What I can tell you, is that I can still kill someone once, but I can no longer track someone.
I leave this place full of insane people when a certain player, given the role name I'm pretty sure not ISIS, dies.

Night 1, what did you want to do with Roy? You wanted to kill him early on and then after the attempt failed you tried to follow him? or Did you want to follow him first and then that failed so you killed him
 

Hobohodo

Member
At the very least El Topo did plan the seeds for this last day phase. I do remember him pointing out the use of 'unaligned' yesterday.
 

Kevyt

Member
Did Topo just confirmed he can kill someone and "track" other players?

Wat... I don't know if I believe him or not.

I guess he's suspect number one then.
 

El Topo

Member
Night 1, what did you want to do with Roy? You wanted to kill him early on and then after the attempt failed you tried to follow him? or Did you want to follow him first and then that failed so you killed him

I won't lie, first night I went with my gut and tried to kill roy. That failed, obviously. I still have the gun though, so I'm pretty sure I got blocked.

Second night I decided to track him, so I could hopefully present useful information that would exonerate me.
And throw someone else under the bus if necessary, I'll admit that.
 

Kevyt

Member
I won't lie, first night I went with my gut and tried to kill roy. That failed, obviously. I still have the gun though, so I'm pretty sure I got blocked.

Second night I decided to track him, so I could hopefully present useful information that would exonerate me.
And throw someone else under the bus if necessary, I'll admit that.

That's very anti-town good sir...

Is this the KGB sacrificing one of their own?
 

Enker

Member
I won't lie, first night I went with my gut and tried to kill roy. That failed, obviously. I still have the gun though, so I’m pretty sure I got blocked.

Second night I decided to track him

IF Ezekel is telling the truth that he survived a brush with death as well N1, then we either have 3 people that can kill in the game or one of you is lying.

AKA one of you is lying. It’s almost impossible to believe 3 people can kill independently as this would seem to heavily screw up this game’s balance.
 

Darryl

Banned
Since I missed day 1 can I ask what made you hot out the gate for roy? Why blow your load day 1 given your role? Certainly your chances of completing your win condition would've gone up with more info and a smaller candidate pool
 

cabot

Member
I suppose I can't just sit this one out, right? It's a bit late over here (past midnight), so I won't write an essay.

I'm unaligned.

That's why I was certain that Seath was telling the truth about his alignment, but given my role I am also sceptical regarding his actual role reveal. My role is not related to the TV show, so if that is representative of other neutral roles, Seath is lying.

I assume, I wasn't given any specific information by Ouro, that someone blocked my role during the first night. I had planned to use my power on roytheone, but got no results and still had my gadgets, so that's the most reasonable explanation.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to back off from roy during the second day, as Palmer pointed out. I assumed that I might have stirred up someone that decided to block me, so my plan was to ignore him and then check what he was doing.

My general game plan was to draw just enough (minor) suspicion while not doing much, so that mafia would leave me alive. Unfortunately Palmer threw a wrench in my plans by forcing me to defend myself early on and suddenly I was suspect numero uno, which forced me to reveal too much too early.

As for my actual powers and win condition, I'd rather not reveal everything just yet. I think that is understandable from my perspective, given Crab's dos and don'ts. What I can tell you, is that I can still kill someone once, but I can no longer track someone.
I leave this place full of insane people when a certain player, given the role name I'm pretty sure not ISIS, dies.

Every power role so far has been a character on the show. I don't believe you.

I also find it bold you don't want to reveal your win condition considering you pretty much accepted that you were dead.

No prepared post either way also is anti town considering how it ended on day 2. Nothing you've done seems to have helped us. Even your claim to fame on Seath is unconfirmed (come on Seath) and it wasn't.a brilliant deduction. I already suspected he could have been third party as I pointed out in d2.

VOTE: El Topo

I want more information, so I'm pressing you with my vote.
 

El Topo

Member
Last post. Need sleep.

AKA one of you is lying. It’s almost impossible to believe 3 people can kill independently as this would seem to heavily screw up this game’s balance.

For the record, I can only kill once. I'm not a serial killer.

Since I missed day 1 can I ask what made you hot out the gate for roy? Why blow your load day 1 given your role? Certainly your chances of completing your win condition would've gone up with more info and a smaller candidate pool

There wasn't really anything in particular about roy. He just gave me the wrong vibes and I decided to go for the throat. For the record, I win if my target dies, regardless of how.
 

Darryl

Banned
Well then why are you putting yourself out here so much? You should be in the shadows hoping town or mafia takes him out
 

Enker

Member
Well then why are you putting yourself out here so much? You should be in the shadows hoping town or mafia takes him out

While we’re noting things, what was said during the mission chat? Did you guys press Ezekel at all for any information on his role?
 

Mazre

Member
While we’re noting things, what was said during the mission chat? Did you guys press Ezekel at all for any information on his role?

We did try but his story stayed consistent. Beyond that we gave some reads but I think most of us were a little wary of Darryl, his sudden jump onto the mission didn't help matters.
 
For the record, I win if my target dies, regardless of how.

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That would be too easy to reach the win condition as a neutral. You know your target, you have access to kill and track..
 
Damn, double kill.

VOTE: YesNOnoNOYes

So yeah, she says a lot of things that make her seem like Agency, but both nights in a row, she jumped onto a last-minute vote for the people who ultimately got taken out with no particular explanation.

Obviously I'm still very suspicious of squidyj, since he was the facilitator to last-minute swing the vote both times, but I'm playing a hunch here.

Oh pish posh. You haven't brought anything of much value to the table. Come at me, bro.

How many times did I engage you to present your perspectives and how many times did you evade my line of inquiry again? I was so discouraged by how you were failing to engage that I just threw my hands up in resignation on you.

Yep. I cast my votes for Visualante on Day 1 due to my faith in squidy, but if you can actually use your eyes to read, I actually went back through the pages to find anything that would sway me on Day 2 votes. I believed I had caught a minor scumtell on Zubz. I wrote a long post about my vote and why I voted.

But here's a brief look to YOUR type of posts:

Now, regarding my vote, I have a few suspicions, but I think it's too early for me to act upon them, so my best bet in staying in play is to increase another player's vote count so they get lynched instead of me. And since GLT voted for me and is a front runner on votes, then, well, it's an easy decision for me to counter-vote for him.

Basically: Better anyone else than me being lynched, and an OMGUS vote

I'm at work.

I did post earlier that I think Ezekel's reveal makes sense right now, though, since if the KGB did try to assassinate him and failed, with the Doctor already out of play, they should immediately know that he is being protected by some power. Personally, I would have waited a tad longer to see if they would try pushing for a lynch, too, at which time it becomes pretty obvious who they are. Nonetheless, it's too late for that now, though.

I am also suspicious of squidyj, which is why I voted for him. I have a few other suspicions about other players, but these are just gut feelings, which I will keep to myself for now, since I don't want to influence voting on just a bit of information. I also want to try to get one person out at a time, so I don't want to diffuse interest in my suspects for anyone who does value my opinion.

That's fair, and I will share when I have some evidence. Right now, I have nothing other than some feelings, which are subject to change.

And two posts in a row refusing to share your reads or suspicions on others.


So what, they are 'gut' feelings. It was D1 and D2! All everyone had was conjectures, but a few of us are more willing to communicate than others. The harder a player is to read, the more suspicious they are to me.

Scumcoasting is a thing. And I dont like how you smell one bit, Septimus.
 

El Topo

Member
Fuck it, might as well give you the role, cabbeh. I'm Cate Archer, the Fox. I have three gadgets I can use once (Gun/Camera/Mascara).

All that's left is for me is to get rid of the Cyborg and I'm done.
 
Fuck it, might as well give you the role, cabbeh. I'm Cate Archer, the Fox. I have three gadgets I can use once (Gun/Camera/Mascara).

All that's left is for me is to get rid of the Cyborg and I'm done.

He he you have a mascara in your toolkit :>

Bet it makes you so much prettypretty ^____^
 
Fuck it, might as well give you the role, cabbeh. I'm Cate Archer, the Fox. I have three gadgets I can use once (Gun/Camera/Mascara).

All that's left is for me is to get rid of the Cyborg and I'm done.

That character doesn't exist in the TV show no? Why would Ouro use her if she isn't in the theme?
What's the mascara for?
besides being pretty
 

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
Fuck it, might as well give you the role, cabbeh. I'm Cate Archer, the Fox. I have three gadgets I can use once (Gun/Camera/Mascara).

All that's left is for me is to get rid of the Cyborg and I'm done.

Well I can figure out what the Gun and Camera do, but what about the Mascara?

And is the cyborg Barry or Ray? :/

Also, Cate Archer is from No One Lives Forever, the video game, just found this with a simple google.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
What games are you playing, Ouro?

Don't tell me all three games have a cameo from some other property.

I want to hear more from El Topo, so I'm willing to wait but obviously this raises a lot of red flags. I don't get the purpose behind the tease and claim either. Like, were you really that certain that roy would be KGB and you'd start today with "Ah ha! I knew it, and I used my gadgets to kill him! Bask in my scumhunting skills!".

Also, I dislike that Septimus is doing right now, limiting the scope of his suspicion to squidy and YesNo, both very town-ish players. Also, why do you think you'll be targeted?

VOTE: Septimus
 

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to

Hmm what would be the point of her being included? Just to have a role balancing out Barry's role?

If it were to balance out Barry's role, and ET's goal is to kill one person, consider this:

Seath claimed his role's goal was to kill Archer. Sure Conway Stern may want to kill Archer, but you know who really wants to kill Archer? Barry. And if ET's role is a balance for a different unaligned player, also with the goal of killing one person, it would make more sense to me for Seath to be Barry.

SEATH ARE YOU THE CYBORG-MAN BARRY?

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Kevyt

Member
Hmm what would be the point of her being included? Just to have a role balancing out Barry's role?

If it were to balance out Barry's role, and ET's goal is to kill one person, consider this:

Seath claimed his role's goal was to kill Archer. Sure Conway Stern may want to kill Archer, but you know who really wants to kill Archer? Barry. And if ET's role is a balance for a different unaligned player, also with the goal of killing one person, it would make more sense to me for Seath to be Barry.

SEATH ARE YOU THE CYBORG-MAN BARRY?

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Nope. Also, Conway Stern is technically a cyborg by definition because of his robotic hand.
 
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