CrimsonFist
Member
But you confirmed Squidy, not Zeke. And you lied about someone being scum and they flipped town, you'd be an automatic lynch the next day.
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Ace Attorney [Mafia] |OT| Turnabout Scum
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But you confirmed Squidy, not Zeke. And you lied about someone being scum and they flipped town, you'd be an automatic lynch the next day.
Xamtheking
Member
It's just a thought, I'm not trying to make it sound like a fact.
I'll drop it for right now, though, since CornB is right about us not knowing what the hell it could be.
Xamtheking
Member
I never investigated RAGE; I investigated Squidyj and theorized based off of the result, and I could have presented what happened between RAGE and SquidyJ in a way that would primarily have RAGE be scum, instead of town like I did. In the case of RAGE dying as a result of that and being town, I could have easier come away from that since I wouldn't have made any outright lies.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
But what from knowing that Squidy is town would make you say that Roy's role would've been blocked?
I'm actually curious as to why you brought up the blackmail thing with this.
EzekelRAGE
Member
You couldve tried, but I wouldve argued til blue in the face probably. Especially since you wouldn't have anything but CB/SJ's arguments.
Also, I was just picturing the scenario we had in AC Mafia, where Fran was scum cop and just gave reads on town players for when we looked at his investigations after his death.
Xamtheking
Member
The blackmailing power has to mean something, unless Scum have a role that only gives out seashells that don't do anything.
But again, we don't know for sure whatever the hell it does.
CrimsonFist
Member
There have been neutral roles that involve something like that before.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I think you know more about this whole blackmail thing more than you're letting on.
Xamtheking
Member
But in those cases, based on the Town's win condition, the Neutral's goal would have been to survive outright. But with what we've seen from Scrafty's Role PM, Town has to kill everyone else, including whatever Neutrals we have
thats... hmmmm, there's a better argument against a scum cop claiming to have a scum check on a 'town' player and I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention it specifically here.
Xamtheking
Member
I know jack shit about what it could mean.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Okay. I feel like it could be role block but I don't know why you mentioned it.
No, they could win by "marking" everyone,and leave the game that way. That kind of role could still work with our win condition this game.
Xamtheking
Member
That is a good point, with Cthulu's Neutrals working similar to that by being able to leave the game early.
Xamtheking
Member
Where the hell is everyone else?
CrimsonFist
Member
Xamtheking
Member
I think RAGE, if he's Town, is probably one of our strongest roles because of his ability to disable what could be a key vote from a person, especially in the later game. I believe Scum have been trying to put him into a bad position to try to get him lynched by primarily Town which could allow Scum to lurk in the shadows and possibly be out of the limelight on the vote.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
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That...was a very unwise thing to do, Xam. Now one of the two of us is almost certainly going to die tonight, and either way we're losing a VIP.
Guess I'll switch my vote for now, but keep in mind that you're going to be scrutinized from now on and people are going to be expecting results every day. I hope you're prepared to accept the responsibility you've wrought.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdge
Your recent behaviour has been rather strange and twitchy and I'd like further elabouration on it.
CrimsonFist
Member
None of that makes any sense. Zeke isn't close to being a lynch candidate, and I don't think anyone has seriously considered getting rid of him today. And you, as the role cop, are a much stronger role.
Xamtheking
Member
Why wouldn't I give results every day?
That...was a very unwise thing to do, Xam. Now one of the two of us is almost certainly going to die tonight, and either way we're losing a VIP.
Guess I'll switch my vote for now, but keep in mind that you're going to be scrutinized from now on and people are going to be expecting results every day. I hope you're prepared to accept the responsibility you've wrought.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdge
Your recent behaviour has been rather strange and twitchy and I'd like further elabouration on it.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
All I'm saying is that repeated claims of being roleblocked might look rather fishy, is all. Last time something like that happened the claimed officer turned out to be a villain, so history wouldn't be on your side in that scenario.
Xamtheking
Member
Alright, thanks for the heads up.
And you counter was to out you, an even more powerful town role? After we lost our watcher already? I really hope that the scum pr are mostly counters to our pr, and not powers that work independently, or else we will already be in a pretty bad situation.
Ezekel got the vast majority of his hate on day one, before anyone knew he had a power, so if scum were ever out to get him it wasn't because of his power.
Xamtheking
Member
I also thought I might have to claim later, anyway. The RAGE interaction is what pushed me over the edge, I would say.
Xamtheking
Member
Additionally, to compliment our lovely Pearl:
Vote: TheWorthyEdge
You been suspect as fuck to me
Vote: TheWorthyEdge
You been suspect as fuck to me
TheWorthyEdge
Member
That...was a very unwise thing to do, Xam. Now one of the two of us is almost certainly going to die tonight, and either way we're losing a VIP.
Guess I'll switch my vote for now, but keep in mind that you're going to be scrutinized from now on and people are going to be expecting results every day. I hope you're prepared to accept the responsibility you've wrought.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdge
Your recent behaviour has been rather strange and twitchy and I'd like further elabouration on it.
I don't understand what's been twitchy about it. That's how I play Mafia. I play it like I do irl. I point out everything I don't like, and mention it even if I'm completely wrong. Its my play style. I don't mind you voting for me, but I don't know how to "elaborate" on my behavior.
StarSketch
Banned
Xam, you're an idiot.
It's unlikely that there's more than one protector role, right?
It's unlikely that there's more than one protector role, right?
You were the only active poster who voted for neither zeke nor kalor in the last day phase. It was something I looked at at the start of today for scumhunting but it didn't ring any bells for me until your more recent behavior. now looking back it feels like you wanted to avoid voting in either bandwagon because you knew they were both town.
I'm going to say it's almost impossible that we have 2 at the same time and at best we have 1 and an understudy that gets activated when the first one dies. but evne that's pretty unlikely.
EzekelRAGE
Member
On TWE, I was gonna make a case for him when I was grilling him about why my vote was odd compared to others.
Was going back to the theory that scum would try to use the RNH death to put me on the chopping block. Even went thru his posts and counted that of his first 24 or so posts this day phase around 7-8 were about me being scum or casting doubt. Forgot what stopped me from posting it. Maybe I got distracted by something.
Was going back to the theory that scum would try to use the RNH death to put me on the chopping block. Even went thru his posts and counted that of his first 24 or so posts this day phase around 7-8 were about me being scum or casting doubt. Forgot what stopped me from posting it. Maybe I got distracted by something.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Or I voted for the person that I thought was Scum, but everyone changed votes to give the replacement a chance.
I said at the beginning that whoever I vote for is the person I think is scum. I'm not going to vote for someone if I don't think they're scum. I thought QBro was Scum.
what are all of your reads now?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I have a reads list a couple pages back but Xams has obviously changed for the better. So I will be changing my vote after I look over some things.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yep. I'm voting for who I think is scum.
VOTE: MattAttack
You come in here only when mentioned. I do not like that. Screams scum.
I do what comes to my mind immediately no matter if it benefits me or doesn't. The first thing that pops into my head is what I say. I don't care if it makes me look like a Mafia or not.
VOTE: MattAttack
You come in here only when mentioned. I do not like that. Screams scum.
I do what comes to my mind immediately no matter if it benefits me or doesn't. The first thing that pops into my head is what I say. I don't care if it makes me look like a Mafia or not.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I'm going to role claim in 15 minutes. I do not want to do this because it's sort of a detriment but I will if I have to.
We've already had a cop roleclaim. Sooo....I don't want to do this.
We've already had a cop roleclaim. Sooo....I don't want to do this.
yo wtf is this? why are you putting a countdown timer on your roleclaim. you're not near majority and we're not near the end of the day phase but you're threatening to role claim with a timer?
come the fuck on.
CrimsonFist
Member
But you have even less votes than Xam did.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I was joking.
I was making fun of the fact that Xam role claimed immediately.
Xamtheking
Member
Immediately?
What the fuck is your definition of immediately?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Like a demon... Isn't that right, MattAttack? Or should I say... DAHLIA ATTACK?!
But anyway, Edge usually plays all twitchy-like, so it's not striking me as too weird, even if that doesn't make it innocuous. Granted, I'm also kind of dense, and am prone to neglect suspicious behavior.
Xam, if you don't mind me asking, what about Edge has been striking you as weird, by the way?
... Again? It still feels way too early to see people playing their hands like this. I totally forgot that a Protector could save Xam, assuming we have one and he's not lying, but I flat-out doubt we have two of them, assuming both Xam and Edge are telling the truth and are useful Power Roles.
That really didn't come off like a joke.
Xamtheking
Member
Mostly the reaction to the prod. To me, it seemed to go above and beyond his initial stance of not liking prod votes. The "joke" he just made above isn't helping his case either.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
you're going hard on that detective gumshoe character aren't you?
Xamtheking
Member
Legit thinking the exact same thing
I know.
So it's supposedly a joke, but intentionally lacks the cadence of a joke. This is just confusing me. Like... Is there an endgame to this? There's "twitch," and then there's weirdness.
... I'm coming off like Gumshoe? Shit. I mean, I guess I see it in retrospect, but nothing except for the avatar has been intentional. And that was only after Stanley Palmtree beat me to Godot. I've been told I look like him a bit in real life, too. Maybe I'm the actual Gumshoe... trapped in the real world?