dr_rus
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It's game dependent. Some games may be limited by the CPU, some won't.
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GeForce GTX 1060 announced - July 19, 6GB, $249 MSRP/$299 Founder's
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Just to be clear, the card will actually boost even higher than 1.7GHz most of the time unless you're throttling pretty hard. It's a lot different from CPU boost speeds.
The actual speed really doesn't matter much. Just worry about raw performance.
Nostremitus
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Most ITX cases that allow GPUs have vents so the GPU fan(s) pull cool air from outside the case. They allow cooler air to hit the GPU heatsink than most ATX cases. With reference cards this means that air comes from outside the case and immediately pushed out the back.
Anyone who likes to LAN should be building a performance rig in an ITX case. Much easier to transport and has a small footprint. I personally like the Cooler Master Elite 130.
Sure, you won't be able to overclock the CPU as well without liquid, but that's no reason to think ITX builders aren't interested in GPU performance.
That's a long way off yet, unless there's a refresh of Pascal next year then it's 2018 for Volta.
Then I'm on team red, whether they win the value battle or not. Unless they lose by a landslide, of course, but that doesn't seem to be happening with this gpu generation.
What issues with the 480 are you talking about? The power draw? From what I read, that was almost a non-issue and definitely is a non-issue since the recent driver update. Any other issues?
Nope, it's 2018.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Volta 2018? How have I missed this.
So what cards have Nvidia got coming next year?
So what cards have Nvidia got coming next year?
1080ti
FunkyDealer
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Do other manufacturers blower-coolers perform any different from first-party ones (founders edition for instance)?
I'm interested in upgrading my Alienware x51 r3, and understand that I'm recommended to use a blower-type cooler.
I'm interested in upgrading my Alienware x51 r3, and understand that I'm recommended to use a blower-type cooler.
Coulomb_Barrier
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QuantumSquid
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I don't know if they perform better (a blower cooler's a blower cooler), but I can tell you for a fact that they will be cheaper. Founder's Edition cards are overpriced as hell.
StereoVsn
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Running 980TI right now and pretty damn happy with it. Next year will be perfect to upgrade with Gen 2 VR headsets hopefully coming in and DirectX playing a bigger role.
Advised couple guys at work to look at 1060 as they didn't want to spend $400+ for 1070 and 1060 will be great for them considering one is running 660ti and the other I think 670.
1060 sounds like a great value if you can get at msrp.
Ricerocket
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You sure that's what you need? If your case has air intake and out, you really shouldn't go blower type. Man I will never go blower again because they are loud and hotter. All blowers are the same, small high rpm fan.
FunkyDealer
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To be fair, I'm not entirely sure. I'm basically new to the desktop business, as the only one I've had before was an Acer I eventually swapped the graphics card in with one I got from a friend...
I'm mainly seeing posts from r1 and r2 owners claiming a blower is needed due to the small form factor and to protect the CPU heatsink. But my model has liquid cooling for the CPU.
I'll ask in the X51 thread if anyone else has experience with an r3 model.
That would be a benefit. ;-)
QuantumSquid
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It's the only card of its kind that we've seen thus far, and Nvidia has stated the $249 MSRP is for the 6GB version. If this means the 1060 can be had for like $200 with 3GB of VRAM for people who play at 1080p and don't care about maxing out their texture quality, that is fine by me.
Its probably not gonna cost 200 in the wild though. Also, 3gb vram is not a lot these days :/
Barrow Roll
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Then don't buy the 3GB version? I'm not understanding the issue here.
SneakyStephan
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I'd never in a million year buy a 3GB gtx 980 level gpu.
Look at the 2GB gtx 960 and how horribly crippled it is compared to the 4GB version.
That's the future for the 3GB 1060
Look at the 2GB gtx 960 and how horribly crippled it is compared to the 4GB version.
That's the future for the 3GB 1060
Yep.
I truly think that the 6GB version can last a good 3 years, if your not the type thats chasing the best.
Unlike the 960 before it, this one releases with a bright future, and worth the MSRP.
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My money is on a Pascal refresh branded as 1100 series. Maybe make the 1180 based on a cut down GP102. Think 600->700 series.
Man ive been planning for either a 1080 or 1080Ti for soooo long, but the more i look at this card the more i think itll fit my needs better.
I currently have a GTX 780, and the upgrade seems very good for the cost.
-3 more GBs of ram
-GTX980 performance, which equals to 30-50% better performance pending game
-Much lower TDP. 120 vs a whooping 250 on the GTX780
-AIO card vs the reference 780 Im using now.
-Only cost me around $150 or less after i sell this card
-Im using a ITX case, and even though itll fit a 1080, itll work better with a smaller card.
This can be a great stopgap card until a 1180 comes out.
I currently have a GTX 780, and the upgrade seems very good for the cost.
-3 more GBs of ram
-GTX980 performance, which equals to 30-50% better performance pending game
-Much lower TDP. 120 vs a whooping 250 on the GTX780
-AIO card vs the reference 780 Im using now.
-Only cost me around $150 or less after i sell this card
-Im using a ITX case, and even though itll fit a 1080, itll work better with a smaller card.
This can be a great stopgap card until a 1180 comes out.
Prophet Steve
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Yeah, kind of.
michaelius
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And millions of people playing CS:GO, dota and LOL won't care one bit.
neurosisxeno
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Or any of the millions who will be playing at 1080p anyway. 4GB+ is only really beneficial if you're going 1440p or higher, or plan on slamming as much AA on every game as possible.
Aztechnology
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Honestly it's a fantastic stop over card, for now and because of the relatively low price point it won't lose significant value if or when you decide to upgrade in the next few years.
That being said I would recommend going for the 6GB version, it will keep its value much better, the 3GB is already below the memory threshold for many modern games. So it's better to go with a 970 or 480 if you insist on going with the lower cost card.
Dead_Pixel
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Try playing Hitman at 1080p on a 2GB 960: you're locked to low textures unless you override the memory safeguards, at which point your FPS tanks.
Oh ofcourse ill go with the 6GB model. im saying i'll get 3 more GBs or ram because the 780 already has 3.
Hmmm it appears the 1060 is better than a 480 in some areas, but also worse in others.
And definitely not better than a 980
http://videocardz.com/62086/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-rumors-part-5-full-specs-2-0-ghz-overclocking
And definitely not better than a 980
http://videocardz.com/62086/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-rumors-part-5-full-specs-2-0-ghz-overclocking
Coulomb_Barrier
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This won't stop some looking at that and going 'woo it hits 2Ghz overclock!!' and fail to assess what game-performance gains that gives you. If it's like the 1070, you can expect up to 14% more performance.
If the 480 overclocks 'only' to 1400-1450 and you get more performance than +14% in games, it will obviously be the better overclocker in real terms.
HocusPocus
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I would like to get one of these or a 480. Looking forward to having the option to buy one in a few months. I have been using the same PC for 4.5 years now lol. Blizzard games are about all I play on my PC and they scale so well that I don't even worry about it. It's time to upgrade though.
FunkyDealer
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When can we expect some proper benchmarks?
Yea i just didnt want to say that in an nvidia thread.
The 19th when it releases.
dr. apocalipsis
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That's a very minor difference in resolution, so don't worry.
About 1060 trading blows with 980, just as expected. You can't surpass a GPU with better numbers with just speed. Even when it could be able to show similar average framerates, expect worse minimums and frame pacing here and there.
Pretty glad it is a full uncut chip too.
These benchmarks are properly wrong, if you look at how a gtx970 benchmarks in this game it is very close to the rx480 so if these benchmarks are true the gtx1060 would be slower than a 970.
but who knows..
Way too early to take that much from these benchmarks. We need a much larger sample size.
QuantumSquid
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I just don't see how it's dirty. It's not like the 970 memory fiasco where they lied to people, they're making it clear before release that these things don't support SLI. That's not dirty in my opinion. It's not like SLI is a good idea in 2016 either.
Yautja_Warrior
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1080Ti and a Pascal Titan probably.
Rumours of the Pascal Titan having 16GB HBM2 and being 50% more powerful than a 1080 have started popping up online but will have to wait and see how true that is.
SneakyStephan
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lol those people don't need a 250 dollar gpu
they can buy a 20 dollar second hand hd7850 and it is MORE than enough (like more than plenty and then some) to play those games. at 100+ fps
Why not buy a gtx 1080 for terraria while you're at it
3GB already isn't enough at 1080p for several games today.
Honestly if you want to buy a 3GB card that badly go right ahead, just don't say you weren't warned hahaha
Friends don't let friends get the 3 GB version. There are a number of existing games that bump up against the 2 GB wall at 1080p with low-medium/medium settings. If you're buying a new card, get one with a safe amount of RAM.
dr. apocalipsis
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I actually believe they are being honest here. Why would anyone throw 500$ on 2x1060 when you can buy a 1070 for less than 450$ with less hassles and 2 more GB of RAM?
They also are discouraging enthusiast people to do tri or quad SLIs with big cards because how bad the scaling is.
This is how 480 scales with crossfire with a bunch of games right now:
It only looks useful for big resolutions, and you wouldn't buy 1060 for that anyway.
This is amusing to me since the game I played most of (in terms of hours) on my new 1080 so far is probably Pix The Cat. It ran at less than 200 MHz, and when I saw that I thought "I could have done this for cheaper"
(Don't worry, I fully use it (and would appreciate some more!) in VR)