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MCV: Mario & Pokemon coming within 6 months of NX launch, 3rd parties, exec comment

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
No mention about Level 5 nor capcom.
Is MH jumping ship? Is the 3ds going to create a hard transition for NX in japan (Layton, snack world, megaton musashi)
 

EVH

Member
Here stops the hype train. Let the meltdowns begin!

Man, every Nintendo machine since gamecube is the same.
 

Peterc

Member
I guess the real question is what appeals to PS4 fans? AAA games? Shooters? Seems like a strange and general statement to make. I'd have asked him to clarify that a bit.

Cinematic games with focus on the storyline.

It doesn't change anything, Nintendo would still focus on gameplay and bringing fresh elements. The only difference we can see is that they maybe are gonna put allot more effort to male their games the best. Like zelda bow and maybe some improvement on the online network possibilities.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Also, the editor of that story also wrote one on the cost of the NX. He mentioned it on Twitter and had this to say:

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Better hope the Sterling recovers by the time the NX launches then otherwise Nintendo will be eating heavy loses just to please UK retailers.
 

Kouriozan

Member
No mention about Level 5 nor capcom.
Is MH jumping ship? Is the 3ds going to create a hard transition for NX in japan (Layton, snack world, megaton musashi)

There is still Megaton Musashi and Inazuma Eleven Ares without platform announced which is weird.
 
I'd imagine a super powerful third party friendly console that has all the hot AAA games coming out. Something like that.

So you want a clone of a console that is already made by two other companies?

And if you bought this console you'd stop buying the third party games on Xbone and/or PS4 and buy them on the Nintendo console instead?
 

Ridley327

Member
Zelda would be good to get the hardcore games on board (which will likely lead the sales in the early months), so it would be a smart launch title. But if they really want to position the system towards families and smartphone gamers, they may have something else.

I mean, both can co-exist happily. It worked wonders for the Wii: you had Twilight Princess for the core gamers and Wii Sports for the casuals.
 

inner-G

Banned
Couldn't they have different 'mobile looking' and 'console looking' versions of the same games (like what they showed with DQ XI)

Imagine: 3D Mario on console, 2D on handheld (same game)

3D style Zelda on TV, top-down of same game on handheld

It would be creative and could appeal to different markets with the same game.
 

RagnarokX

Member
I would love three Mario titles for the NX:

A "true" single player 3D Mario game, which is a sequel to 64/Sunshine/Galaxy.
Another isometric co-op game, a sequel to Super Mario 3D World/Land.
And another co-op 2D New Super Mario Bros instalment.

I really am craving for a proper 3D game again, but I love all 3 aspects of the franchise.

Why even use "true" if you know it's controversial and put it in quotes? Just call it 3D Adventure Mario. It's silly to call it "true" or "real" or "proper" 3D Mario because 3D World is closer to "Mario in 3D" than 64 and Sunshine. Also Galaxy isn't an adventure title like 64 and Sunshine... and 3D Land/World aren't isometric... and 3D Land is single player. And then you used proper without quotes at the end. Heh.

Personally I would like a new 3D Land/World style game that was single player so they could do more with the level design. There's nothing about the Mario 64/Sunshine design that Galaxy, 3D Land, and 3D World got rid of that I miss; just a lot of bloat and filler.
 
Better hope the Sterling recovers by the time the NX launches then otherwise Nintendo will be eating heavy loses just to please UK retailers.

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If I can get the NX, a purportedly XBONE-PS4 level portable system, for less than £200, then holy shit I'm happy.
 
So you want a clone of a console that is already made by two other companies?

And if you bought this console you'd stop buying the third party games on Xbone and/or PS4 and buy them on the Nintendo console instead?

Just for the record, I'm not saying that's what I want, that's just something I'd imagine a lot of the people disappointed by the concept of the NX were wanting.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Not appealing to PS4 fans just means no David Cage-esque games where we press X to Mario. Not a big loss.
 

pulsemyne

Member
Interesting the comment about it being between a PS3 and PS4 in power. To me that hint's at something around the 700gflops to 1 tflop range which for a portable device would be very nice indeed. Or at least more power than the WiiU is, maybe in the range of three to four times that.
I mean it should make ports reasonable okay, Frostbite engine was okay-ish on PS3 so should be perfectly fine on NX (albeit say with less players for a BF game and some other things missing).
 

aBarreras

Member
Couldn't they have different 'mobile looking' and 'console looking' versions of the same games (like what they showed with DQ XI)

ah ok

but in your scenario, there are 2 NX variants?

or just by putting the NX on the Dock you play the console experince?

i rather play the wii u version then
 

Calm Mind

Member
"Silence doesn't mean nothing is happening behind the scenes" - NateDrake
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198461065&postcount=142

1. There are multiple form factors of the NX suited to peoples needs.

2. Eurogamer, MCV and Emily Rogers and the like know only about the handheld form factor of the NX and there is much more that they don't know or are refusing to tell us because of reasons unknown.

3. Nintendo is tirelessly working behind the scenes to ensure that the software, hardware exceeds their previous efforts and that their software partners output equal that quality out the gate. They've taken the message about their platforms lack of variety to heart and the launch lineup will reflect that. Nothing short of amazing is what they're striving for.

4. MyNintendo will play a major role in the NX. Cross platform saves, achievements (real world and in-game), and digital downloads will all be tied to the service.
 

Asd202

Member
Couldn't they have different 'mobile looking' and 'console looking' versions of the same games (like what they showed with DQ XI)

Imagine: 3D Mario on console, 2D on handheld (same game)

3D style Zelda on TV, top-down of same game on handheld

It would be creative and could appeal to different markets with the same game.

That woul mean making two games but selling it as one. It's not going to happen.
 
Oh absolutely. I'm not doubting that at all. My point is that it's not a good idea to launch all your big sellers at once. Even 3D Land and MK7 were released a month apart (or maybe it was a few weeks).



Whose rumor? 10k or SuperMetalDave? lol

SuperMetalDave made another video to prove why there could be a NX console.

Anyways "Game graphics will be ‘somewhere between a PS3 and PS4’. It says right here in the MCV article it's between. Makes it seem like it could go up to PS4 power.

Also, do you believe this rumor because they lied when they said Eurogamer is 100% correct even though Eurogamer said detachable controllers and they said a detachable controller. And this rumor is saying power from PS3 to PS4, but reading what the spec guys on here say going by Eurogamer whatever Tegra Nintendo uses won't reach PS4?
 

Thraktor

Member
It's worth keeping in mind that although Game Freak have historically been slow to bring mainline Pokemon games to new hardware, in every previous case the new handheld has had backwards compatibility, meaning games released for the older device could be sold to both markets. If, as seems likely, NX isn't backwards compatible with 3DS, then that would certainly be reason enough for them to change their strategy, particularly if we're talking about a port of Sun & Moon (or Star/Eclipse/etc.)
 

jmizzal

Member
Activision bring the Skylanders and Warners bring the Legos I assume... ugh... I expect third party support for this thing to be garbage.

Its gonna be Nintendo's main platform, its gonna sale, 3rd parties are gonna be there. WiiU got a lot of solid 3rd party games early on
 
This sounds legit and awesome. They're supposedly hitting a great price point and the graphical output, as much as I don't care about such a thing, is much better than the Wii U, which gave us some great looking stuff like Mario Kart 8.

Pretty smart move by Nintendo.
 

AdanVC

Member
Game Freak sucks at making pretty looking games so not holding my breath
of the wild
to see a cool looking port of Sun/Moon, if even that happens. What if they will just make a new Pokémon Shuffle?
 

Kyzer

Banned
Maybe the entire game is downrezzed in sun/moon ? Only way this is even a remote possibility imo

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Idk. Something about game freak taking away from the impact of gen 8 with a sun/moon port sounds way off...then again they do have a vested interest in the nx succeeding...theres no way its a new gen, even if sun/moon was directed by Ohmori because Masuda was working on gen 8 there's no way they would make this gen so ridiculously short would they?
 
6 months can'tbe right. Mario should be their big November game. Odd move.
What could possibly be their November game!?

Dunno if I should get Moon now or hold off. Although keeping Moon for a couple years on 3DS will be cool since the 3DS will mostly have Moon to itself. I could basically have the 3Ds be a Pokemon machine for a couple years hhmm..
 

jmizzal

Member
"Within 6 months" sound like "Enjoy Zelda at launch and hopefully we will have something else for you half a year later".

This is just what this guy knows, Nintendo didnt come out and say for 6 months you will only get Zelda, Mario and Pokemon.

We already know Pikmin 4 is in the works, rumors for Smash bros NX, Splatoon NX, and Mario Maker NX and who knows what other Nintendo teams are working on for NX
 
"Silence doesn't mean nothing is happening behind the scenes" - NateDrake
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198461065&postcount=142

1. There are multiple form factors of the NX suited to peoples needs.

2.Eurogamer, MCV and Emily Rogers and the like know only about the handheld form factor of the NX and there is much more that they don't know or are refusing to tell us because of reasons unknown.

3. Nintendo is tirelessly working behind the scenes to ensure that the software, hardware exceeds their previous efforts and that their software partners output equal that quality out the gate. They've taken the message about their platforms lack of variety to heart and the launch lineup will reflect that. Nothing short of amazing is what they're striving for.

4. MyNintendo will play a major role in the NX. Cross platform saves, achievements (real world and in-game), and digital downloads will all be tied to the service.

Because it's only going to be a handheld. The expectation that Nintendo is also working on some sort of Neo-level hardcore gaming console also sharing the same codename is delusional. What you see is what you're getting.
 
Because it's only going to be a handheld. The expectation that Nintendo is also working on some sort of Neo-level hardcore gaming console also sharing the same codename is delusional. What you see is what you're getting.

Nobody said anything about "Neo-level" console. Not sure why this narrative keeps being created.
 

inner-G

Banned
That woul mean making two games but selling it as one. It's not going to happen.

Exactly... except it could happen.

Maybe Nintendo realizes that some people like 3D mario and others prefer 2D mario, for example. This would let them sell a game to both. They're not just spending more to develop, they are increasing the potential sales base. And I bet developing a 2D mobile version of a game is fairly cost-effective compared to a scaled-down port of a full 3D game.

Example of a game for NX that's already kind of like this: https://youtu.be/Ndi_46bKZVQ
ah ok

but in your scenario, there are 2 NX variants?

or just by putting the NX on the Dock you play the console experince?

i rather play the wii u version then
Playing on the 'base' connected to the TV would trigger the 'console' version in my guess, since it will likely have more processing power.
 

JB2448

Member
For those that might want a link to the tweet screencapped in the OP, here it is.

Just one more month (and up to 29 days into next month but please no) to go until we get more concrete info.
 

Schnozberry

Member
This source make sense. It falls in line perfectly with Eurogamer spec rumors, Ubisoft president comments that "They'll regain the casual market" and Nintendo philosophy of not competing with Sony and MS.

Yes, but his statement on the appeal and marketing of the console is entirely his opinion.
 

MajorMane

Member
And yes it is enough time. Game Freak works on more than one game at a time and there was a year break remember? It's not implausible at all that sun/moon 2 will be finished in 2017

It'd be more plausible that they were working on a remake of another game or something else entirely, though. Why make a sequel to the game that hasn't even gone gold yet and is probably still getting worked on in some fashion?

(For the record, from what I can tell, the shortest time between games and a third version is around a year and few weeks for Crystal. Sun and Moon release in November. If a third version or sequels were being made and release "within 6 months" of a March NX release,then they'd come out at the latest in September next year. That's 10 months.)
 

10k

Banned
If you assume three year dev cycles and the clockwork of some nintendo projects, all these titles could theoretically land in for first calendar year of NX:

3D Mario
Mario Kart 9
Zelda BotW
Pikmin 4
Retro studios project
Luigi's Mansion 3
Smash Ultimate Edition
Animal Crossing

Then the third party stuff like Sonic, etc.

Now mix in some third party support and that's a good lineup.
 

ultrazilla

Gold Member
Excellent! I think most Nintendo fans have always been of the opinion(I know I am) that Nintendo needs a solid stream of AAA first party/third party games for their new system's launch. I'm talking a minimum of a AAA game every month for a year. They need to make sure there's a wide variety of quality software fans will want along with the killer app(s) that will sell the system.

My killer app(s) would be Pokemon GO NX, Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Mario NX.
We also know that Pikmin 4 is in development and most probably near completion at this point based on Miyamoto's comments months ago. I could see the new Pikmin game being somewhat like Pokemon in that you'll be able to find Pikmin in your "real life" surrounds(AR) such as your garden area that you can collect to then help you in game.

The first party support already sounds good. I'd still like to see Capcom, Konami(don't hurt me guys), Take 2/Rockstar and EA on the system as well. I want Battlefield 1 NX on a Nintendo system!!
 
Exactly... except it could happen.

Maybe Nintendo realizes that some people like 3D mario and others prefer 2D mario, for example. This would let them sell a game to both. They're not just spending more to develop, they are increasing the potential sales base. And I bet developing a 2D mobile version of a game is fairly cost-effective compared to a scaled-down port of a full 3D game.

Example of a game for NX that's already kind of like this: https://youtu.be/Ndi_46bKZVQ

Playing on the 'base' connected to the TV would trigger the 'console' version in my guess, since it will likely have more processing power.

The entire purpose of combining their handheld and console divisions was so that they didn't have redundant development- no Mario Kart 7 and Mario Kart 8- but also so that development in general becomes quicker and easier thanks to the ability to share assets and other development resources.

What you are suggesting goes against this philosophy because it requires double the work to be done on a single game, when they could instead make and sell two different games. It also doesn't make sense with what Iwata was saying about letting players in different markets (Japan vs. west) play games in the way that those markets prefer (handheld vs. console). Making it so that those offer different experiences entirely just doesn't make much sense to be honest.
 

Negaduck

Member
First 6 months? That's a killer launch line up.

Dammit. Everything about this console sounds amazing. If it delivers on the promise of a console I can take with me and then plug back in to play on my TV at home, I'm sold.
 
Nobody said anything about "Neo-level" console. Not sure why this narrative keeps being created.

Power level isn't really relevant in this case. What is relevent is that there actually isn't more than one form factor (which does not contradict what Iwata said so don't go pasting those stupid quotes from years ago) and that the NX is a handheld which could be played as a console. Weather or not there will be another console down the line is another matter but it probably won't happen for another couple of years and will not share the same code name. There isn't more to this story, this is the story.
 

Schnozberry

Member
6 months can'tbe right. Mario should be their big November game. Odd move.
What could possibly be their November game!?

Dunno if I should get Moon now or hold off. Although keeping Moon for a couple years on 3DS will be cool since the 3DS will mostly have Moon to itself. I could basically have the 3Ds be a Pokemon machine for a couple years hhmm..

They don't want to front load the console either. Give Zelda time to breathe. Give any third parties who are making a commitment to be there at launch a chance to avoid the best months of Mario and Pokemon. They can release smaller titles or eShop games in the intervening months between major tent pole releases.
 
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