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STEAM | August 2016 - No Man's Sky will leave Mankind Divided

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derExperte

derExperte

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Nyteshade517 said:
maybe they are keys from that program where Gamestop managers or whatever can get certain games for cheap

I know there's been a lot of drama in that thread before over stuff like that...just my guess
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That sounds like the best explanation, I can't find anything about a glitch and when someone asked in BST the answer was 'shut up'.

The Dear Leader said:
They got those keys from the Humble Square Enix PlayStation Bundle.
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I admit, I googled. It's late/early.
 
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def sim

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People with access to console, retail employee stores now must be making a nice bit of profit. I had access to one a decade ago and was buying full priced games for $5. I imagine the discount is still largely the same.
 
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BoosterDuck

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Mad Season said:
Known issues list from the devs

http://steamcommunity.com/app/337000/discussions/0/355043117526791886/
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Mouse Acceleration
This issue is currently under investigation.
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Pixieking

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CDkeys.com have Quantum Break for £20.99. Note:

This is the Steam version of the game and is only available for pre-order.
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Also, it appears I haven't been getting Kickstarter emails for Divinity: Original Sin 2... Except for the latest (update 26) which tells me how to claim my KS key. Good thing I noticed it in my Kickstarter filtered folder, otherwise I would've bought it on Steam - I'd completely forgotten I backed it.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Was thinking about what happened to Amazon Game Studios. Before they announced the Fire TV, they had such promise: they had bought and hired a lot of talent, including ex-Valve staff. They were huge, geared up presumably to make big games, and their set-top box was going to be the breakthrough mobile-console crossover. Then the Fire TV ended up being shit. The Fire Phone might be one of the single worse electronics failures launched in the modern era. Then most of the games they announced for the Fire TV never came out. Then slowly many of the talented people working at Amazon games left. In the end, they trickled out a half-dozen unremarkable mobile titles, first exclusive to Amazon stuff, then on Android and iOS when the Amazon stuff gained no traction. Then they spent bazillions of dollars to save Crytek and license their engine... and promptly release it for free, not releasing any games on it.

Their games website has been updated to remove any mention of the games they released, just says they're helping devs to use Twitch and AWS to make community-driven games:
https://www.amazon.com/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Twitter hasn't been updated since 9 days after they announced their engine, total abrupt death of any talk about the games they released. Facebook has been updated twice since then, once for a GDC session for their engine, and once to update their cover photo to some concept art that is clearly not going to be a game. They have a reasonably updated game dev blog that's all about how to use their engine.

No games have released since May 2015. No ports of the existing games to PC, or announcements of anything. What a failure of potential, and they can't even support and be proud of the stuff they did release.
 
Wok

Wok

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zkylon said:
?? context? what did they say?

also it's kind of funny that i know some of these people

hope they do ok
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Just that it is the end of early access for their game. I just find the photo of the dev team with the disc in front reminiscent of Sean's photo. I think it is on purpose.

Corpekata said:
Surprised This is the Police is reviewing so well. I thought it pretty quickly became a total slog. It's not good on the management side, and the story side is...odd, though it does have some highlights.

It's also a 10 hour game stretched into like a 25 hour one.
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This is the main problem with the game: days of less interesting gameplay dragging along the story. I wish there was some option to skip days when we get bored. The intro scene and the story are amazing.
 
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Ozium

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mankind divided is possible GOTY

spent 4.5 hours or so, taking my time exploring and reading documents.. have found 4 side missions and all of them were from exploring, one pops up from finding a datapad in a safe in the hub world.. exploration is definitely rewarded

the hub is cool too, lots of buildings you can go in and poke around (in human revolution the buildings were like relegated to levels/missions iirc)
 
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electroflame

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Ozium said:
mankind divided is possible GOTY

spent 4.5 hours or so, taking my time exploring and reading documents.. have found 4 side missions and all of them were from exploring, one pops up from finding a datapad in a safe in the hub world.. exploration is definitely rewarded

the hub is cool too, lots of buildings you can go in and poke around (in human revolution the buildings were like relegated to levels/missions iirc)
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I'm really digging it, too. I spent a good 3 or 4 hours of my playtime today playing "Adam Jensen: Bad Neighbor Simulator" stealing everything from all of the apartments in the first area.

It's actually kind of weird, but it feels like a mix of Dishonored and Human Revolution, in the best possible way. I think it's something to do with the sharpening filter and color choices for the art direction -- it looks a lot like Dishonored, and some of the map design choices are very Dishonored-like.
 
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Monooboe

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I'm pretending to also play Deux Ex with Idlemaster.XD But yeah that is one game omission that will make it hard for me to make a GOTY list at the end of the year since I will probably not be able to play it before then.
 
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venomenon

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I gave in and finally got Paint It Back. This is the kind of shit that will ruin my life because I'm so tempted to play a level before work... or two... (I'm at my third right now).

Ludens said:
Is the physical version of Quantum Break a US exclusive?
I can't find it in any store here (I mean, for pre-order).
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The Collector's Edition is available on amazon.de, so I guess not.
 
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zkylon

zkylewd
Wok said:
Just that it is the end of early access for their game. I just find the photo of the dev team with the disc in front reminiscent of Sean's photo. I think it is on purpose.
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oh i see what you mean

i just read your thing and then the "all white people" thing and figured you had edited out something nasty about them

i just care cos i know these ppl :p
 
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Nzyme32

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Crimsonclaw111 said:
Mankind Divided is so good so far. Pretty cool to see it pushing PC features like nuts.

Digital Foundry is gonna have a field day with this one.
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The PC perf thread with posts of "I can't run maxed with 980 / 1070 at 1440p" and getting upset about it, lacking any interest or understanding of what those higher end settings are doing and why they get an obvious lower performance, is crazy.
 
Wok

Wok

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zkylon said:
oh i see what you mean

i just read your thing and then the "all white people" thing and figured you had edited out something nasty about them

i just care cos i know these ppl :p
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Yeah, I saw the joke by derExperte but did not edit anything. Now that I think about it, he must have been thinking of the pseudo-outrage regarding the photo of the devs of Mankind Divided.
 
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A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Nzyme32 said:
The PC perf thread with posts of "I can't run maxed with 980 / 1070 at 1440p" and getting upset about it, lacking any interest or understanding of what those higher end settings are doing and why they get an obvious lower performance, is crazy.
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I remember when PC gaming was all about managing performance and graphics settings, like it was it's own minigame.
 
Wok

Wok

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Nzyme32 said:
The PC perf thread with posts of "I can't run maxed with 980 / 1070 at 1440p" and getting upset about it, lacking any interest or understanding of what those higher end settings are doing and why they get an obvious lower performance, is crazy.
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Wait for Obduction. Ahah!
 
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venomenon

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A Fish Aficionado said:
I remember when PC gaming was all about managing performance and graphics settings, like it was it's own minigame.
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Right? It was like "I hope I can tweak the settings so that the game will run reasonably well" whereas it's now "If I can't max everything, the game is shit and I won't bother".
Also, Steam reviews for bigger titles are completely useless because of this, at least initially.
Entitled brats...
 
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A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
venomenon said:
Right? It was like "I hope I can tweak the settings so that the game will run reasonably well" whereas it's now "If I can't max everything, the game is shit and I won't bother".
Also, Steam reviews for bigger titles are completely useless because of this, at least initially.
Entitled brats...
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Fans try to have ownership of the IP, while devs struggle. And it's not excusing dev's upselling or lying about it (see: NMS), but more about whether fans try to hold over reign over the creators. I think Vox or WaPo had an article about it.
 
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gelf

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venomenon said:
Right? It was like "I hope I can tweak the settings so that the game will run reasonably well" whereas it's now "If I can't max everything, the game is shit and I won't bother".
Also, Steam reviews for bigger titles are completely useless because of this, at least initially.
Entitled brats...
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Yeah it's at the point now that I expect every high profile release to get blasted in Steam reviews. With the better ones maybe recovering to "mostly positive" when more level headed people not interested in the day one pile on start reviewing.

I'm a pauper with a constantly outdated PC so I never left the "I hope I can get this to run" mindset.
 
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Monooboe

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Whoa, Starbound doesn't have controller support!? Lesson learned, either do ones research or don't buy a game outside Steam... would be sweet to have that refufund option.T_T
 
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venomenon

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A Fish Aficionado said:
Fans try to have ownership of the IP, while devs struggle. And it's not excusing dev's upselling or lying about it (see: NMS), but more about whether fans try to hold over reign over the creators. I think Vox or WaPo had an article about it.
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I'm gonna have a look for the article, there has also been a topic in Gaming about this iirc?

But tbqh, I would look at it from a different, simpler angle. Before consoles became the usual lead platform, PC games were more prone to really push the hardware. That's where the clichee about having to upgrade a gaming PC at least once a year came from after all. Now, I was able to max out pretty much everything on a 4 year old rig until recently. This would've been completely unthinkable 15 years ago.
Now games start to offer options that are way beyond current consoles' capabilities again, thus they push the hardware again and people are just not used to be limited by their mid-end hardware that used to run everything anymore (or they never experienced otherwise to begin with) and get frustrated.

It's probably a rather simplistic viewpoint, but as a grumpy PC gamer I like to blame consoles and their stereotypical user base for everything :)
 
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ashecitism

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Stumpokapow said:
Was thinking about what happened to Amazon Game Studios. Before they announced the Fire TV, they had such promise: they had bought and hired a lot of talent, including ex-Valve staff. They were huge, geared up presumably to make big games, and their set-top box was going to be the breakthrough mobile-console crossover. Then the Fire TV ended up being shit. The Fire Phone might be one of the single worse electronics failures launched in the modern era. Then most of the games they announced for the Fire TV never came out. Then slowly many of the talented people working at Amazon games left. In the end, they trickled out a half-dozen unremarkable mobile titles, first exclusive to Amazon stuff, then on Android and iOS when the Amazon stuff gained no traction. Then they spent bazillions of dollars to save Crytek and license their engine... and promptly release it for free, not releasing any games on it.

Their games website has been updated to remove any mention of the games they released, just says they're helping devs to use Twitch and AWS to make community-driven games:
https://www.amazon.com/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Twitter hasn't been updated since 9 days after they announced their engine, total abrupt death of any talk about the games they released. Facebook has been updated twice since then, once for a GDC session for their engine, and once to update their cover photo to some concept art that is clearly not going to be a game. They have a reasonably updated game dev blog that's all about how to use their engine.

No games have released since May 2015. No ports of the existing games to PC, or announcements of anything. What a failure of potential, and they can't even support and be proud of the stuff they did release.
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Been thinking about the same thing. They were supposed to work on a competitive game. One Gaffer attending TI5 even said an Uber driver supposedly heard devs saying they want to take on Dota (Nirolak said he believed this story). Well then...
 
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Lain

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Installed the new hdd and the 1070 and the PC is going well. Now to redownload NMS and see if it improved any. It will be its last last chance.
 
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Servizio

I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Xanathus said:
This is hilarious, from the Deus Ex thread
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Oh wow. I remember Dystopia (an old HL2 multiplayer mod) had the same 'feature'. I can't remember now if HL2 itself or other games on the Source engine behaved the same.

I used to remember what the explanation for this behavior was too. I want to say it had something to do with the way the physics engine calculated friction?
 
Kaleinc

Kaleinc

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Nzyme32 said:
The PC perf thread with posts of "I can't run maxed with 980 / 1070 at 1440p" and getting upset about it, lacking any interest or understanding of what those higher end settings are doing and why they get an obvious lower performance, is crazy.
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Looking at settings and seeing AF 4x is enough to realize dudes have no idea what they are doing. AF's been free since GF4 Ti or something lol.

And the way msaa tanks performance it's not msaa. Combined with mouse issues seems like a mediocre port overall.
 
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