Well I ended up right in most of the cases that you disagreed with me so I don't know if this is a good thing lol . (Joking)
Hopefully devs don't get punked by the hive minds yelling for "True 4K" & only go for native 4K when it's the best choice.
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PS4 PRO 4K native games (will update the list everytime there is a new game)
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Well I ended up right in most of the cases that you disagreed with me so I don't know if this is a good thing lol . (Joking)
Hopefully devs don't get punked by the hive minds yelling for "True 4K" & only go for native 4K when it's the best choice.
I just download the patch and it is in the patch notes.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Can you please take a screen grab of the patch notes where it tells that and post it here? Thanks.
Where is this original quote from? because this sound like it might be native 4K for Rise Of The Tomb Raider
http://wewritethings.co/2016/10/11/ps4-pro-tomb-raider/
http://wewritethings.co/2016/10/11/ps4-pro-tomb-raider/
PLASTICA-MAN
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Digital Foundry made a video comparison between ROTTR in native 4K and the PS4 PRO version using checkerboard and highlighted how checkerboard creates artefacts in particle effects and other stuff. Also there have been many comparisons showing how PS4 PRO checkerboard 4K is blurrier than native 4K in ROTTR. I find it strange that some still think that ROTTR on PS4 PRO is native 4K.
PLASTICA-MAN
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I am adding Hustle Kings to the OP. I don't know the FPS but I presume it's 60 FPS just like on PS4.
I would really appreciate if someone posts a screen grab of the patch notes
so noo one will doubt that later. Thanks.
I would really appreciate if someone posts a screen grab of the patch notes
so noo one will doubt that later. Thanks.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Skyrim Special Edition Gone Gold
No HDR mention for any console? This strange. 4K Native is nice but HDR is really a big feature.
No HDR mention for any console? This strange. 4K Native is nice but HDR is really a big feature.
Kidding around and being clueless about where you've been demonstrably incorrect all along combined with shameless self-promotion and fact distortion? Yes, it's good to know my earlier impressions were well founded.
Per the context of this thread, I said all along that remasters and graphically simple titles like indie work were the obvious 4K candidates, and that I expected no more than 10% of modern AAA games to be native 4K. I don't see any proof to the contrary.
Thumper will run in native 4K.
I know it's been stated before (and has its own thread) but I still didn't see it in the first post.
If you were waiting for the dev to clarify, they replied to my PS Blog comment here.
I know it's been stated before (and has its own thread) but I still didn't see it in the first post.
If you were waiting for the dev to clarify, they replied to my PS Blog comment here.
BigSoftieFF
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Don't know how to link but Gamespot says NBA 2k17 will be native 4K.
NBA 2K17
PS4 Pro with a 4K display:
Native 4K resolution running at 60 FPS with HDR support.
Oh wow I'm dumb LOL
Read the 1080p line
I guess that's the first major, recent release that's native then and it's 60fps as well. Nice.
Electret
Member
Wow, native 4K at 60 FPS? Impressive. That checks all the tick boxes.
Miggytronz
Member
This doesn't seem possible to me but holy shit I hope it's accurate.
Omnistalgic
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I thought just smaller games would be native? Isn't Horizon and Days Gone 4K with checkerboard? Are sports games not as demanding?
Also what are you guys talking about with 4K checkerboard looking better than native? Your talking about on Pro only right? Because PC TR still looked better than Pro TR. And I'm sure Scorpio will be able to run native without a lot of effects turned down as well.
Also what are you guys talking about with 4K checkerboard looking better than native? Your talking about on Pro only right? Because PC TR still looked better than Pro TR. And I'm sure Scorpio will be able to run native without a lot of effects turned down as well.
Of course we are talking about PS4 Pro but if a PC game has the option to use checkerboard rendering with higher settings than you can achieve with the native 4K than it will also look better.
Certainly less demanding than AAA open world action games.
Personally not the biggest fan of NBA 2K these days but hopefully this points to Native 4K for MLB next year.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Removed. Wrong place for this conversation. I don't want to derail the thread.
thelastword
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It's a balance, you're talking about high settings with HDR at 30fps as opposed to maybe native 4k medium settings with HDR.
We'll have to see it obviously, but since there are little to few artifacts using checkerboarding vs traditional upscaling. It makes sense that ROTR can look a bit more detailed with checkerboarding with high presets.
ROTR is not released yet, but I believe the .Pro can easily do ultra settings with checkerboarding at 30fps locked as opposed to just high settings listed in the OP.
I'll say this now: If Jonathan Blow isn't going out of his way to be stubborn he will add a native 4K 30fps mode to The Witness PS4 Pro along with a 1080P 30fps mode for the PS4.
But the fact that he said he was going to do exactly what the documents asked devs not to do says a lot. But hopefully he was just talking to throw people off like he did when he claimed that the game wasn't coming to Xbox One.
I'm thinking 1800p 60fps & 4K 30fps
But the fact that he said he was going to do exactly what the documents asked devs not to do says a lot. But hopefully he was just talking to throw people off like he did when he claimed that the game wasn't coming to Xbox One.
I'm thinking 1800p 60fps & 4K 30fps
Guys, will PS4 PRO's super sampling provide a decent upgrade in IQ over PS4?
I am talking about 1080p vs supersampling 1080p. Is it worth it, will the image be considerably sharper/cleaner than normal PS4 or will the difference be negligible?
Would love a straightforward answer, no need to sugar coat it for me!
I am talking about 1080p vs supersampling 1080p. Is it worth it, will the image be considerably sharper/cleaner than normal PS4 or will the difference be negligible?
Would love a straightforward answer, no need to sugar coat it for me!
Guys, will PS4 PRO's super sampling provide a decent upgrade in IQ over PS4?
I am talking about 1080p vs supersampling 1080p. Is it worth it, will the image be considerably sharper/cleaner than normal PS4 or will the difference be negligible?
Would love a straightforward answer, no need to sugar coat it for me!
Yes.
It very probably could - just like TLoU:R - at 30 fps. I'd rather keep the 60. But I doubt it's coming.
StrongBlackVine
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If The Last Of Us can run at native 4K then surely those games can as well. Maybe they aren't interested in pushing most PS3 games like that though.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Thank you for adding this game in bold and underlined. Easier to spot.
Thanks for the link and info. It is nice to see GameSpot starting to make their own list after I made this one.
Wow. This is just insane. And many didn't expect to get new AAA games in native 4K, but here we have one in Native 4K resolution running at 60 FPS with HDR support.
Harmondale
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I was fully expecting sports games to be native 4K. Give me NHL 18 frostbite engine 4K glory now!
I told people before if a game is 1080p on Xbox One with a 1.32TF GPU from 2012/2013 it can run in 4K on PS4 Pro with a 4.2TF GPU from 2016
People tried to make me into a joke character for being smart enough to know that PS4 Pro could render 4K games but now they are lost & confused when these 4K games keep popping up
I ignored the insults because I knew people would have to eat their words
Would you like secret sauce with that?
PLASTICA-MAN
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Omnistalgic
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Cool cool...then is what MS saying just buffing up there more powerful system then? They said PS4Pro is about what they would have done this year, but wanted better tech to hit native 4K. But if checkerboard is so comparable and some games are still hitting native, I don't get why they both didn't come at the same time?
PLASTICA-MAN
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I would rather not imagine another PS4 S PRO (more powerful + UHD Bluray player) to compete with Xbox Scorpio.next year.
God damn this shit has gone straight to your head.
Well if you get attacked for being right while people call you a fool & make jokes you will rub it in when you're proven right to.
They had their day now I'm having mine's no one said anything when people was calling me a fool & making fake tweets using my name.
I don't blame him. People were hurling insults at him for saying Pro will have native 4k games.
I'm so surprised to see NBA 2K17 at native 4k 60fps! That's insanely impressive.
It's not needed both will be doing Xbox One/PS4 level games in UHD there isn't going to be so much of a difference that one company will feel that they have to release a new console to compete. it's close enough that price , marketing & dev support will make up for the power difference.
Omnistalgic
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Rise above it bra...don't stoop to those levels.Well if you get attacked for being right while people call you a fool & make jokes you will rub it in when you're proven right to.
They had their day now I'm having mine's no one said anything when people was calling me a fool & making fake tweets using my name.
Wow NBA 2K17 in 4K and 60 fps with HDR? That's pretty damned impressive. I take back my statement about modern day releases not pushing native 4K. I'm not even a big NBA 2K fan after the last few installments but this bodes well for something like MLB the Show for next year.
Edit: I'm quite willing to eat a whole murder of crows on this as well. I'm actually pretty excited if even a handful of current gen AAA games attempt to push native 4K. I don't expect Horizon Zero Dawn to be in native 4K but like, could the REmake 2 push that kind of visual fidelity? I guess if they actually did go with pre rendered backgrounds and focus on the lighting and character models and other effects.
Edit: I'm quite willing to eat a whole murder of crows on this as well. I'm actually pretty excited if even a handful of current gen AAA games attempt to push native 4K. I don't expect Horizon Zero Dawn to be in native 4K but like, could the REmake 2 push that kind of visual fidelity? I guess if they actually did go with pre rendered backgrounds and focus on the lighting and character models and other effects.
Omnistalgic
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Yea I'm inclined to believe Sony may have been right on the money here, the only questionable decision so far with Pro is not upping the Ram so devs have an easier time getting in those high res assets. I'm not technically knowledgeable though to know if it's an issue or not.
In laymen's terms, if MS doesn't produce games that are head and shoulders above what Sony devs do, (Horizon, GOW, Days Gone, GTS, TLOU2) I think releasing first will end up being the smarter move than releasing more powerful. Only time will tell, but it's hard to imagine something looking so much better than Horizon on a 4K set.
Miggytronz
Member
That NBA info is just mind blowing and awesome!!!!!
Spiral Insanity
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What are the best options to install a 2TB drive? I'll be wanting to transfer my current PS4's 1TB drive's contents as well.
Depends on game how big the visual impact is.Guys, will PS4 PRO's super sampling provide a decent upgrade in IQ over PS4?
I am talking about 1080p vs supersampling 1080p. Is it worth it, will the image be considerably sharper/cleaner than normal PS4 or will the difference be negligible?
Would love a straightforward answer, no need to sugar coat it for me!
If game is native 4k with post AA, it should downsample nicely to 1080p.
There are plenty of ssaa, dsr downsampling threads if you want examples.
I am above it, you don't see me calling them fools or making them the butt of jokes
Yep indeed the list of 4K native games is growing pretty quickly.
I also expect FFXII and KH2.8 to be 4K native.
PLASTICA-MAN
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You know the talk here is not about checkerboard. NBA 2K17 will be native 4K @60 FPS + HDR and not using checkerboard which is really a HUGE achievement.