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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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The Switch does not fit in your pocket.
Bamboo 竹
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No. As a Nintendo fan I don't like the system itself. I was hoping for a machine that at least could be a really good handheld but it fails at that with the incompetent battery it has.
For me now it's a really bad console AND handheld.
For me now it's a really bad console AND handheld.
Why is "fresh experience " always a fall back. I want a GOOD experience. I want a complete experience.
What you are saying sounds like some sales pitch for the Wii and the wiiU and now the Switch but it sounds like something said when there is nothing tangible to point to imo
The type of person who would use a video game forum.
Oh I'll be very surprised
Serious post?
It will do at least three times better than the Wii U.
3-6 hour depending on game* and I'm sure the Switch will act as a Pokestop or Gym rather than to catch Pokémon.
Neither does a 3DS XL
orthodoxy1095
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Popsickles
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No, too expensive so it's out of impulse buy range, too niche as it's too similar to the wii u so the uninformed won't care and probably games thin on the ground. I can see the Ps pro taking a price cut leading up to the Scorpio launch bringing it down to around the same price as the switch. The switch will not see many price cuts just like the wii u as it uses costly tech. I just wish Nintendo would just go back to the cube days and just make a games console with no gimmicks
Three times better than WiiU, the first three months or lifetime?
Are you sure you want to go with that? Because you're effectively saying it'll double the Wii numbers by that point...
Tevious
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The reaction to the Switch so far reminds me of the Vita. Everyone seemed to be hyped about it when it first announced, then when the cost and details came out, everyone seemed to turn sour towards it. At least Nintendo will be all-in on the Switch and not give up on it so quickly like Sony did the Vita. I think it'll do maybe slightly better than the Wii U only because their software lineup will be a combination of their console and portable lineup. I think it's mostly DOA to anyone but hardcore Nintendo fans and they're in for a rough first year. They can maybe turn things around a bit if the software lineup looks more appealing and they do a price drop.
People don't care about gimmicks (for long) and all this expensive tech in the controllers probably driving up costs is going to bite them in the ass. Except with the Wii controller and games like Wii Sports, Nintendo has done a terrible job of utilizing their own gimmicks. Sometimes they unnecessarily force gimmicky controls into games like Star Fox Zero or Donkey Kong Country Returns without the option to play with a normal controller. Expect more of the same. They should have just gone with simple joy-con controllers that they could sell for $15 each and a pro controller for $40-$50.
It's laughable that Nintendo thinks they can get people to pay for online when they've never proven they can build a decent online infrastructure before. Watch them charge $60/year too.
People don't care about gimmicks (for long) and all this expensive tech in the controllers probably driving up costs is going to bite them in the ass. Except with the Wii controller and games like Wii Sports, Nintendo has done a terrible job of utilizing their own gimmicks. Sometimes they unnecessarily force gimmicky controls into games like Star Fox Zero or Donkey Kong Country Returns without the option to play with a normal controller. Expect more of the same. They should have just gone with simple joy-con controllers that they could sell for $15 each and a pro controller for $40-$50.
It's laughable that Nintendo thinks they can get people to pay for online when they've never proven they can build a decent online infrastructure before. Watch them charge $60/year too.
onemanasylum
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What dos the Switch have that brought the wii crowd in? The motion fad is dead, there is no wi-sports lightning in a bottle, come on. The casuals who bought wii are playing on their phones/ipads.
ByWatterson
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A device aimed at casuals and children cannot fly off shelves with online paywall.
N64 numbers. 20-30 million lifetime.
N64 numbers. 20-30 million lifetime.
toddhunter
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You just said you need the dock as well.
So in your "it is amazing scenario" you are fitting the switch, four controllers, four wheels, the dock, the cables and the projector into your pants.
John Cena couldn't pull that one off.
Prithee Be Careful
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'Brand power' couldn't save the GameCube or WiiU - it's not some magic currency. Price and sentiment matter and yesterday's reveal - if the Internet buzz is any indication - did more harm than good.
onemanasylum
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What brand power? The wii-u/gamecube/N64 didn't get much help from said brand power. It is not 1990, Nintendo has a limited appeal brand power wise these days,
Someone who doesn't care what some sad judgy loser thinks of them.
Remove the joycon and it fits in the back pocket. Not the most eloquent solution, but I see people carrying the XL around which is much bigger.What kind of pants are you wearing that the Switch comfortably fits in them?
As it's technically also the new handheld from Nintendo I can see it having some level of success long term. But I think, initially, it won't do too well. The lineup seems sparse and purposefully spread out across the year to avoid a drought and the price is absolutely ridiculous (speaking from an Australian perspective). I certainly won't be getting one at or around launch, which is unusual for me for a Nintendk console and unprecedented for a Nintendo handheld.
Who are these people that don't own a tablet or a PS3/360? And why would they want a Switch which isn't a good replacement for either product? It doesn't have any of the features or apps that people expect from a tablet and it doesn't have anywhere near the game library of the PS/XB consoles.
If someone wanted to play last-gen versions of FIFA or NBA2K they could buy a pre-owned 360 at Gamestop for $59 bucks. I am not seeing the value proposition for Switch.
Dee Dah Dave
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It will providing they get plenty of good games out this time, so lot's of people also buy it as a secondary console. Me thinks.
Not the best start though lol, hopefully they have a good E3.
Not the best start though lol, hopefully they have a good E3.
TLZ
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The Wii was cheaper, came with a pack in game which was sort of intriguing at the time utilizing motion controls which was revolutionary at the time, free online, etc.
This portable isn't revolutionary and will be compared to tablets and home consoles no matter what. Its functionality won't fully please both sets of fanbases IMO. There's a niche few who'll like it but that blue ocean they're aiming for are already equipped with a ton of cheap tablets that can do many things; social media and video streaming apps, and free games.
I wish we had a poll here.
If you don't see the Switch as a clearly huge upgrade to the PS3/360 I don't know what to tell you. Maybe watch the presentation again.
Dancing Queen
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You have to be trolling.
Caipirinha
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What kind of pants are you wearing that the Switch comfortably fits in them?
No way is that the size of the Switch?...
So it's dead in Japan too then?! Jesus I thought it would at least inherit the 3DS market.. Fuck...
OrbitalBeard
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SystemUser
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3 x 20 = 60
2 x 100 = 200
200 =/= 60
Tripling Wii U would be double Wii if the Wii U sold 30 million and the Wii only sold 50 million. Personally of the people that I know that have ever owned a console about 90% of them owned a Wii at one time. With the Wii U it is less than 10% and I live and work in Nintendo town. (It's also Microsoft town too.)
Just realized that you were talking about the launch window not lifetime sales.
CrazyIvan1978
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This thing is destined to fail, just like wii u
Nope. The 3DS XL is thicker, and I'd say just as pocketable as the Switch with joycon removed.
This is absolutely not guaranteed. Nothing points towards it in reality. Nintendo hasn't announced or shown anything. Neither did Level 5 and Capcom. Extremely worrying.
TLZ
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Show me which part of the presentation shows that please.
Chezzymann
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In terms of sheer power it's not. It's marginally better than Wii U, which wasn't all that much more powerful than a ps3 in the first place. I'd say it's closer to a ps3 than a ps4 in power
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I think it will do Xbox One numbers when all is said and done.
I am buying one.
I am buying one.
onemanasylum
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WOW....so much for 3ds replacement lol.
The "WiiU tier" predictions might be selling this short. It's purely anecdotal, but I hear regular people (read: non-gamers, casuals) talking about Switch with a level of awareness and excitement they never had for WiiU. Most of them still don't know what a WiiU is, but they already understand the central gimmick and appeal of the Switch.
Sweet. So where do you keep the joycons?
barneystuta83
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It depends how you and Nintendo define success.
It won't beat the Wii. If will likely beat the Wii U.
It won't beat the Wii. If will likely beat the Wii U.
Being "pocketable" is not the same fucking thing as the 3DS XL is "much bigger" than the Switch.
Need to give more attention to the words you are using.
Obviously with your GB Micro
orthodoxy1095
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I give up. You're either trolling or just unfortunately dense.
Not sure if the Uncharted comment is a swipe at Sony fans, but it won't be a failure because Uncharted isn't on it, it will be a failure because the latest FIFA, Battlefield, Titanfall, COD, NBA, GTA, RDR2 etc etc etc isnt on it.
Want to have regular discussion, not hyperbolic discussion. But then says "Mario Kart and Splatoon 2 will sell shitloads"
concrete.
off duty ninja
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Time will tell but the launch lineup, price, paid online all lead me to think it will flop.
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