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Joe Rogan and Alex Jones get high and incoherently discuss crazy shit (JRE podcast)

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BSsBrolly

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What's the deal with this Rogan guy? I've seen him interview both Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, and all throughout both interviews he nodded in agreement with basically everything they said and provided literally zero pushback whatsoever. Yet the guy's supposed to be a pretty hardcore right-winger as you can see by him having the latest guest in the op's video.

Someone explain.

Basically once the election started, Rogan took a turn for the worst. He has never been this bad before. He was all over Hillary conspiracy theory's and still brings them up. Never seems to care about anything involving Trump and dismisses anything regarding him (the dossier) as fake.

Edit: I speak as someone how loves his podcast and has listened to almost every episode for 2 years running. This election (and his reaction/choice in guests) has soured me on his show and I have almost quit listening because of it.
 
Basically once the election started, Rogan took a turn for the worst. He has never been this bad before. He was all over Hillary conspiracy theory's and still brings them up. Never seems to care about anything involving Trump and dismisses anything regarding him (the dossier) as fake.

He literally shit talks Trump almost every single podcast.

He for sure went crazy down conspiracy lane over Hillary though
 

BSsBrolly

Banned
He literally shit talks Trump almost every single podcast.

That's his same side bullshit he pulls. Any shit talking on Trump in light in comparison to his continual shit talking of Hillary. He doesn't ever discuss what crazy shit Trump is up to and outright dismisses most of it as BS.
 

Chumley

Banned
Because he's not a hardcore right winger at all. He has hundreds of different people on his shows and often times doesn't like interrupting or needlessly disagreeing with them. He basically just books people that he thinks will have an interesting conversation and let's them go

And yet he giggles along with Milo Yiannapolis talking about how awesome fat shaming is and how evil feminism is.

He allows liberals to talk but he actively agrees with right wingers. Example, a cop he had on last year gives a pretty thorough and in depth gun control argument, and in response Rogan is befuddled and wants reassurance this guy doesn't want to take his guns away. Or how about his constant false equivalence between InfoWars and the NYT both being valid sources of news. Or his white person persecution complex and rants about Leslie Jones being racist towards white people yet him giving NO PUSHBACK to Milo whatsoever about his crusade against her.

Putting liberals on his show and wanting pot legalized means nothing. He's a right winger. I could come up with a dozen more examples like this.

He literally shit talks Trump almost every single podcast.

He for sure went crazy down conspiracy lane over Hillary though

He shit talks him with a smile on his face laughing about how dumb he is. He was stone faced serious about Clinton being a criminal who should be in jail though. He downright hated Clinton in a way he absolutely does not with Trump.
 

Raonak

Banned
The great thing about Joe is that he's willing to do a podcast with anyone who has something interesting to say.
So you get lots of super informative podcasts about a wide range of topics. Unfortunately, it can sometimes be really, really dumb shit. There's been bad podcasts, and there will continue to be. But there have been some really amazing ones too. And tons in between.



Not sure whether I should bother listening to this... I really hated the milo one and this seems like it's gonna be in the similar ballpark.
 
He has a lot of interesting guests, sometimes the kind of people I didn't associate with but have found some respect for them like all those Hunters guests. Still hate the overly crazy ones like when that Milo dude is on.
 

Bl@de

Member
Fantastic. Had to laugh so hard when Alex goes crazy. Always knew that psychic vampires are behind it.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
The great thing about Joe is that he's willing to do a podcast with anyone who has something interesting to say.
So you get lots of super informative podcasts about a wide range of topics. Unfortunately, it can sometimes be really, really dumb shit. There's been bad podcasts, and there will continue to be. But there have been some really amazing ones too. And tons in between.



Not sure whether I should bother listening to this... I really hated the milo one and this seems like it's gonna be in the similar ballpark.
Isn't he an mra who uses the word 'cuck' to insult people? Kind of tells me everything I need to know about him regardless of his clearly delightful potpourri of guests
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Isn't he an mra who uses the word 'cuck' to insult people? Kind of tells me everything I need to know about him regardless of his clearly delightful potpourri of guests
Nope.


Fantastic. Had to laugh so hard when Alex goes crazy. Always knew that psychic vampires are behind it.
Seriously this was comedy gold.

I know Alex Jones is a giant menace to society, and full of pure bullshit.... but he's somehow entertaining as hell. I was dying laughing.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Nope.



Seriously this was comedy gold.

I know Alex Jones is a giant menace to society, and full of pure bullshit.... but he's somehow entertaining as hell. I was dying laughing.
Well whatever you want to call it I guess: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1303399

I remember him also going apeshit about the Clinton Foundation, equivocating Trump and Hillary, lots of nonsense. But maybe I'm just TRIGGERED haha amirite? Triggered.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Well whatever you want to call it I guess: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1303399

I remember him also going apeshit about the Clinton Foundation, equivocating Trump and Hillary, lots of nonsense. But maybe I'm just TRIGGERED haha amirite? Triggered.
Rogen was just making fun of people who use the word cuck today.

And Bill Burr isn't alt-right either. That thread was a shitshow.

Rogen's not alt-right and he doesn't use the symbols and language of alt-right. But he is kind of a meathead and the people who've described how he is kind of a "both sides" stands-for-nothing fool are correct.
 

Chumley

Banned
Rogen was just making fun of people who use the word cuck today.

And Bill Burr isn't alt-right either. That thread was a shitshow.

Rogen's not alt-right and he doesn't use the symbols and language of alt-right. But he is kind of a meathead and the people who've described how he is kind of a "both sides" stands-for-nothing fool are correct.

It's kind of irrelevant whether or not he uses the symbols or language when he does use their ideology and advocates for outright paragons of the alt-right movement. "Both sides" when it comes to Milo and Alex Jones is flat out unacceptable and you don't get to call yourself left-leaning at all if you hold them with the same validity as even the most extreme liberal.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's kind of irrelevant whether or not he uses the symbols or language when he does use their ideology and advocates for outright paragons of the alt-right movement. "Both sides" when it comes to Milo and Alex Jones is flat out unacceptable and you don't get to call yourself left-leaning at all if you hold them with the same validity as even the most extreme liberal.

Being a bad left-winger doesn't make you alt-right though. I've seen Rogen advocate for the absolute hippy-dippy left wing shit too. He's all over the political map.

Speaking of all over the political map, there was a time when Alex Jones existed purely in opposition to George W Bush, and would have been considered part of the extreme left.
 

Chumley

Banned
Speaking of all over the political map, there was a time when Alex Jones existed purely in opposition to George W Bush, and would have been considered part of the extreme left.

And now he's a Sandy Hook truther who riles up unstable followers into forming militias while pushing Pizzagate conspiracies. He's an inch away from being responsible for murder and officially inviting violence, in fact it kind of astonishes me that he hasn't been charged with the latter yet.

It goes way beyond being a bad left winger to preach equivalence with this guy.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
One of the best podcasts in years. I love Alex even though I think he's crazy and wrong most of the time, but he's entertaining as hell to watch, and once he got fucked up it was amazing. I still remember his rant to Piers Morgan, one of the funniest things ive ever watched.
 

Dopus

Banned
Being a bad left-winger doesn't make you alt-right though. I've seen Rogen advocate for the absolute hippy-dippy left wing shit too. He's all over the political map.

Speaking of all over the political map, there was a time when Alex Jones existed purely in opposition to George W Bush, and would have been considered part of the extreme left.

Extreme left? How so? I've never seen him advocate far left politics. At best, minimising the state and other libertarian talking points, but I don't think he's for open borders or a dissolution of the state or even socialised systems. He has a strong dislike of communism and hates anarchists, and then there's globalism to pile on to that.
 

Nesotenso

Member
And now he's a Sandy Hook truther who riles up unstable followers into forming militias while pushing Pizzagate conspiracies. He's an inch away from being responsible for murder and officially inviting violence, in fact it kind of astonishes me that he hasn't been charged with the latter yet.

It goes way beyond being a bad left winger to preach equivalence with this guy.

yeah it is kind of hard to find Alex Jones "funny" or "amusing" when you know there are people who buy into this shit.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
And now he's a Sandy Hook truther who riles up unstable followers into forming militias while pushing Pizzagate conspiracies. He's an inch away from being responsible for murder and officially inviting violence, in fact it kind of astonishes me that he hasn't been charged with the latter yet.

It goes way beyond being a bad left winger to preach equivalence with this guy.
It's the same shit though. Crazy back then. Crazy now. It's just not easy to map onto a political spectrum.

Back to the point, what if I told you that Rogen has Jones on his show to kind of have a laugh with/at him? To be sure they are friends and Rogen is kind of a situational coward where he nods along with everything his guest says. But the reason Jones is on that podcast is to have a big laugh, not to spread Jones' views. Maybe the effect is the same in the end.

Now normalizing Milo, that's more of a problem to me. But did you know Milo is booked on Bill Maher's show this season? Love it or hate it, Milo is a public figure now...
 

Chumley

Banned
It's the same shit though. Crazy back then. Crazy now. It's just not easy to map onto a political spectrum.

Back to the point, what if I told you that Rogen has Jones on his show to kind of have a laugh with/at him? To be sure they are friends and Rogen is kind of a situational coward where he nods along with everything his guest says. But the reason Jones is on that podcast is to have a big laugh, not to spread Jones' views. Maybe the effect is the same in the end.

Now normalizing Milo, that's more of a problem to me. But did you know Milo is booked on Bill Maher's show this season? Love it or hate it, Milo is a public figure now...

Having Milo on isn't the problem, it's not pushing back in a real way and giggling with him about objectively repugnant shit.

Maher is going to give Milo enough rope to hang himself with and then dismember the body, if he actually agrees to go on. Bill did it to Tomi Lahren last week, he's the most ruthless liberal comedian for a reason. He'll call Milo a piece of shit to his face. Rogan is just a coward by comparison.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Extreme left? How so? I've never seen him advocate far left politics. At best, minimising the state and other libertarian talking points, but I don't think he's for open borders or a dissolution of the state or even socialised systems. He has a strong dislike of communism and hates anarchists, and then there's globalism to pile on to that.
In the early 2000s Jones was principally opposed to George W Bush and the neo-con project to remake the world order (....in his eyes, to serve the NWO or whatever).

I'm not saying he was reading Marx. I'm saying that at the time he was considered a counter-culture figure on the whacko left. The kind of lefty 9/11 truther handing out Zeitgeist DVDs would have dug Jones more than any right-winger in those days.

It was the Obama era that flipped his support to being more tea partiers, and now Trumpers.


Having Milo on isn't the problem, it's not pushing back in a real way and giggling with him about objectively repugnant shit.

Maher is going to give Milo enough rope to hang himself with and then dismember the body, if he actually agrees to go on. Bill did it to Tomi Lahren last week, he's the most ruthless liberal comedian for a reason. He'll call Milo a piece of shit to his face. Rogan is just a coward by comparison.
That does bother me actually, so I agree.

Actually I hope Maher does go in hard (but with a sense of humour).

I don't think Milo has even faced a real challenge yet. I've seen him speak to ineffectual humourless journalists, and then dummies like Rogen and Rubin who get corrupted by his charisma and appeal to "free speech".

He needs to face more liberals with a wicked sense of humour.
 
Well whatever you want to call it I guess: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1303399

I remember him also going apeshit about the Clinton Foundation, equivocating Trump and Hillary, lots of nonsense. But maybe I'm just TRIGGERED haha amirite? Triggered.

That thread starts with the hysteria turned up to 11 when the OP cites "Denies the wage gap!" as proof that Rogan is a Nazi. A million people, who are not right wingers, and a million studies have shown that most of the wage gap is due to several different factors that have nothing to do with sexism or the patriarchy. And yet stating these facts is still taken by the left as proof that someone is an alt-right.
 

Joe

Member
I used to listen all the time but it's been a terrible podcast in my opinion for a while now. It's turned into his own little echo chamber where he shoehorns headline-sourced and half-baked geopolitical and social commentaries into every conversation.

I think he's primarily using the podcast these days as a platform to disseminate his viewpoints and not much else.

This comment from the latest episode up on YouTube sums up where he has taken the podcast lately

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Wow this thread has a...diverse set of opinions on Joe Rogan and his podcast. I recently listened to the Milo episode again after hearing his name appear in a news piece on protests and wanted to find out what he was all about. He falls into the classic trap of being given more credit for his opinions and actions because he is an articulate individual. The man is disgusting, end of.

Anyway, best thing to come out of Rogan/Jones is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9p6jRHDZ0E
 

Audioboxer

Member
Meh, not really interested in listening to this one as Alex Jones is a hack. I tend to tune into Rogan for scientists, educators, and some politics.

Last ones I listened to

#883 - Kevin Smith
#877 - Jordan Peterson
#869 - Dave Rubin
#837 - Gad Saad

And now he's on like #912? Yeah... Tons of guests I don't know, and some I don't like, but hey, that's life, you enjoy what meets your interests and ignore others. I'm not going to try and police who he has on his show though, you don't end up hitting over 900 long form podcasts without a range of humanity in all its glory and all its craziness.
 

Forkball

Member
I can't find humor in Alex Jones considering many consider InfoWars to be a more legitimate source of news than CNN, WaPo, NYT etc. There are people that take his word as the gospel and it is hurting the perception of the free press in America.
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Joe Rogan is a bit too gullible about this stuff for it to be that entertaining, but it was still a stupid fun listen. Watson is the real madman over at Infowars and the real danger.

The BEST is when Alex Jones gets Jon Ronson on his show. Ronson somehow convinces Jones that he'll be nice and then he comes on and just shits on Jones for 30 minutes without Jones knowing.

I think Jones feels a comradery with Ronson :lol

Ronson definitely feels a camaraderie with him. They both have fond memories of sneaking into Bohemian Grove. I think for someone like Jones it is one of the only times when a conspiracy theory of his has actually proven reality-based.

Jones is fucking hilarious in Them. In one bit they all hatch a plan to get inside by acting and Jones is talking about microchips and as soon as they get up to the entrance he changes plan and just fucking runs into the forest . Ronson and the other guy then just walk straight in lol


Jones and his photographer talking about microchips to show they are preppy is fantastic. https://youtu.be/dahQCEzjkfM?t=1583
 
over 2 hours in and this shit is amazing. such stupid shit lol.


"i got data from a head of state today... but im not gonna tell you what" lololol AJ is such a dickhead troll.

and what is his weird obsession with interdimensional beings? they are harmless, most of them in my kitchen just occasionally whisper vegan cooking tips to me but thats about it.
 

Audioboxer

Member
over 2 hours in and this shit is amazing. such stupid shit lol.


"i got data from a head of state today... but im not gonna tell you what" lololol AJ is such a dickhead troll.

and what is his weird obsession with interdimensional beings? they are harmless, most of them in my kitchen just occasionally whisper vegan cooking tips to me but thats about it.

As someone studying psychology Alex Jones is something else. The grounded side of me believes he's simply a classical era snake oil merchant on modern day steroids, peddling lies and misinformation for money via views. The more cynical and medically inclined side of me believes that brain of his has some serious shit wrong in it. Not that that excuses any of his behavior. It's more of an observation of can someone be this fucked up, and not be fucked up?

When it comes down to it though he's ONE man. The far more troubling element to what he is or isn't is the gullibility of the general population. Sure some people watch this podcast to laugh their ass off at an idiot, other people post Alex Jones FB posts to further their narratives because they really believe some of the shit.

If he really is a snake oil merchant then he sleeps on a bed of money with one hell of a conscious. However, so does many of the modern day YouTube hits. Whether it's peddling lies, preying on children, gambling, fake stunts, drama channels, etc. Humanity eh, some moral compasses are tuned directly to $$$.
 

oneils

Member
Extreme left? How so? I've never seen him advocate far left politics. At best, minimising the state and other libertarian talking points, but I don't think he's for open borders or a dissolution of the state or even socialised systems. He has a strong dislike of communism and hates anarchists, and then there's globalism to pile on to that.

He's been advocating a basic income for a few months now. He is also a strong proponent of public land. Like others have said he doesn't necessarily fit a mold. He has some positions that are objectionable to some and some positions that are very left wing.
 

Ethranes

Member
Hold on what's wrong with Joe Rogan, why is he an idiot and a dipshit?

After reading what people are saying a bit more, whatever, he's cool.
 

Breads

Banned
That was fun to listen to and indeed a compelling case was made here and there but then you have shit like hundreds of thousands of child sex slaves, Hillary killing/ chopping kids up, psychic vampires, Obama's bisexual hotdog parties, and the audacity to complain that the media misrepresents the things that he says. Assuming Alex jones does indeed have credible sources to some of the things he says what the fuck does he expect the reaction is going to be when he peppers his own message with, by his own admission, bullshit made to get under peoples skin?

You either entertain people with bullshit or you strive for credibility. You can't have both. When the Daily Show does it they tell you they aren't a news operation. Alex Jones gets incensed when you don't believe him.
 
And yet he giggles along with Milo Yiannapolis talking about how awesome fat shaming is and how evil feminism is.

I heard Joe stick up for fat people at the gym, tried to reason with Milo twice on it but Milo wasn't budging, whether it was truthful or trolling.
 

Chumley

Banned
That was fun to listen to and indeed a compelling case was made here and there but then you have shit like hundreds of thousands of child sex slaves, Hillary killing/ chopping kids up, psychic vampires, Obama's bisexual hotdog parties, and the audacity to complain that the media misrepresents the things that he says. Assuming Alex jones does indeed have credible sources to some of the things he says what the fuck does he expect the reaction is going to be when he peppers his own message with, by his own admission, bullshit made to get under peoples skin?

You either entertain people with bullshit or you strive for credibility. You can't have both. When the Daily Show does it they tell you they aren't a news operation. Alex Jones gets incensed when you don't believe him.

He gets incensed because his entire business revolves around people taking him seriously. Have you ever checked out the InfoWars community boards or facebook pages and shit? They have no sense of humor about this stuff. They believe every word of it. There's a reason why you almost always either hear Alex Jones being played somewhere or hear someone talking about him in documentaries about modern day white militias. These are the people who want to see Hillary Clinton not just imprisoned but publicly executed because they're 100% convinced she's an actual demon, like Alex Jones has told them for years.
 

Hjod

Banned
They should have replaced Eddie Bravo with Joey Diaz instead, that would be a good podcast.

Just google when Joey and Joe was on Alex Jones podcast and Joey destroyed Jones.
 

Kumquat

Member
Joe Rogan is not as smart as his defenders wish. But is a great standup. In fact it's hard for me to reconcile podcast Rogan with comedian Rogan.


However Alex Jones is a dangerous lunatic who inspires other dangerous lunatics and he should be in jail or a safe space for him and his listeners.

Freedom of speech is a bitch huh.
 
"We're made in the image of our Creator, our brain is able to tune into the lowest dimension and the highest dimension, humans are basically really powerful creatures that can live right close to suns, they're highly radioactive, nothing else can live as close. We have very short lives, because we're like a hive organism that actually lives second to second in the space time continuum, a hundred years is like a second, and we transmit our data up to be able to live next to these stargate jump gates that are suns. And so because we live so close to these suns, we only have like milliseconds to be alive, so we're actually a hive organism that keeps transmitting up to the next species in our hierarchical system and then down below us, so we're alive right now in this continuum and we're trying to progress and make things better, and the elites are trying to make sure that we don't dial into that incredible knowledge we've got as a species and basically die as a species so that we're not competitors on the next level, as the Bible says, of the interdimensional plane."

-Alex Jones, friend of the POTUS.

haha, he's wrong! many other creatures can withstand radiation much much better than humans. like waterbears that survive in space and fucking deinococcus radioduransis THAT LIVES INSIDE NUCLEAR REACTORS. Alex Jones debunked!
 
I listened to the first 2 hours and I rolled my eyes so much they were practically glued to the back of my head.

The stupidity on display was astounding. I mean at one point they discuss the investigation of Anthony Weiner and then 2 seconds later somehow tie that in to psychic pedophile vampires who control every aspect of society.

I won't even address the moon landing/chem trails/ inter-dimensional satan stuff that happens later.
Not gonna lie, I was considering not listening, but this just sold me
 
it's peculiar how he sometimes clarifies that he himself doesn't necessarily believe what he just said, but the "elites" do.. even though he sounds dead serious and fired up when he says the crazy things (like what i quoted).

so wtf? it's all for show, to get more viewers who will buy the pills and special coffee and other shit that he hawks?
 

samn

Member
Mexican Eddie will always be hilarious.

For those who are just tuning in, don't take this podcast episode seriously. Joe knows Alex is batshit insane, and Eddie will believe anything once you get a couple of drinks in him.

oh it's not serious, it's only the end of the human species. Not like Alex Jones has any influence in government ho ho ho
 

StAidan

Member
it's peculiar how he sometimes clarifies that he himself doesn't necessarily believe what he just said, but the "elites" do.. even though he sounds dead serious and fired up when he says the crazy things (like what i quoted).

so wtf? it's all for show, to get more viewers who will buy the pills and special coffee and other shit that he hawks?

Yeah I'm pretty well convinced that he's perfectly serious about everything he reports on. Seems to me he's a sincere guy, with a patriot's level of passion but no filter around what he's willing to believe.
 
Yeah I'm pretty well convinced that he's perfectly serious about everything he reports on. Seems to me he's a sincere guy, with a patriot's level of passion but no filter around what he's willing to believe.

Saying Alex Jones has a patriot's passion without a filter is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer has a cook's appetite without the portion control. Kind of misses the fucking point.
 
Yeah I'm pretty well convinced that he's perfectly serious about everything he reports on. Seems to me he's a sincere guy, with a patriot's level of passion but no filter around what he's willing to believe.

No he isn't. Case in point, Infowars/Jones' views on the police.

Go back to before Obama was re-elected, Jones was fervently anti-police, there are hundreds of rants out there of him railing against the police.

Then 2014 happens, BLM becomes a household name and what does Jones do? He flips his views and becomes pro-police, and anyone who's against the police are terrorists!

I've been following Jones since the Bush administration, and it's plain to see his transition from a libertarian conspiracy theorist into a full on white nationalist.
 
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