JoeyJungle
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What was the 3DS launch price and Switch price in the UK? £250 and £300?
That is really a fact?
Wii is the best selling console in UK ever if I'm not wrong (wrong... read the edit).
Blame Wii U and not the market because like UK everybody else didn't buy it... if Nintendo makes a console that the market wants to buy (like Wii) then it will sell great.
Edit - Wii was the fastest console seller in UK but after it was discontinued 360 outsold it.
What was the 3DS launch price and Switch price in the UK? £250 and £300?
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That's my point. The game sold everything it could within the limits of its userbase. More than 8 millions units on a 13M userbase means an attach ratio of more than 60%. It's insane. It has the potential to sell way more.
Switch - £279.99
3DS - £229.99
Still can't believe i paid that much for a 3DS looking back on it.
You don't get it. It's on the lower end, meaning that it could have sold way more if it was released on an appropriate console.
Mario Kart Wii sold more than 30 millions units, Mario Kart DS 25 millions, Mario Kart 7 15 millions, and so on. The sales of a Mario Kart game are tied to the userbase, since everyone who buy the console tend to buy Mario Kart.
It isn't the serie historic low but it's only barely above Double Dash (tied to the gamecube, another failed hardware) and Super Circuit (which inexplicably bombed, maybe that's due to the game being trash).
That's my point. The game sold everything it could within the limits of its userbase. More than 8 millions units on a 13M userbase means an attach ratio of more than 60%. It's insane. It has the potential to sell way more.
Ok, but your prior post said 8.3 million was low( maybe you said something before that I missed). Which I took as a criticism of its sales without considering that 8.3m sales based on the install base is VERY good. Sorry if I misunderstood you. But yeah, triple the install base and the sales of Mario Kart 8 increase likely at the same rate. It's a huge deal on every Nintendo system.
Haha I'd still pay that today, knowing the games that are available.
They likely made more money on the Switch launch compared to all other launches before. Price of the system and pretty much ever one getting Zelda that's a lot of money spent for Nintendo in one of their weakest main markets.
Pretty good for a March launch in this day and age following WiiU.
They are advertising it more here, but all I see are adds for 1,2 switch which is making people I know think it's a smartphone app
Why can't Nintendo just advertise an actual game ffs
They are advertising it more here, but all I see are adds for 1,2 switch which is making people I know think it's a smartphone app
Why can't Nintendo just advertise an actual game ffs
They are advertising it more here, but all I see are adds for 1,2 switch which is making people I know think it's a smartphone app
Why can't Nintendo just advertise an actual game ffs
I maybe should have been more precise but I wanted to say low for a Mario Kart game, just like the sales of Infinite Warfare were low for a CoD game. Of course, any game selling 8 millions units is a huge achievement.
Nintendo botched the line up. Lots of games they could have remastered or ported to boost the line up.
Small blast from the past, UK N64 launch, March 1997:
https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCArchive/status/836569166651928576?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
I really don't think the lineup needed boosting. With Zelda being one of the launch games, Nintendo ran the risk of cannibalising everything else by releasing more first party output on launch. This system is Zelda +1 for many as far as games go right now. I think it's wise that Nintendo didn't piss off the third parties and indies who are there by making that +1 something like Mario Kart.
MK8 is what I'm waiting for despite playing a fair chunk of on Wii U. I think that game represents an almost perfect usage case of the system and Mario Kart is something that will get a lot of love with my other half and the kids. It might be a port but I'd still expect MK to do very well for Switch, and irrespective of it being on Wii U already it's a super important presence for any Nintendo system.
I feel that's a pretty good result given the situation.
1.) The system doesn't have the major Western third parties on board, or any sign that it will.
2.) There isn't even all that much Japanese third party support for that niche.
3.) The idea of the casual audience buying a dedicated device instead of using a phone is a stretch. Younger children are also increasingly hard on this front, and with the older children you're directly competing with Microsoft and Sony.
As such, the core pitch here is playing Nintendo games and maybe indie games on the go. You've got Zelda versus having shiny upgraded versions of all the biggest AAA hits like the PS4 and XB1.
I would say this most closely resembles what the Wii U and GameCube offered, and it's a step up from that sales wise.
That said, I totally get why someone would look at that and view it as low. It is lower than a lot of systems.
If it's similar to Wii U/Gamecube isn't that a bad sign? Wasn't this suppose to correct the issues those consoles had?
Depends on whether Knack 3 is ready at launch or not.
Still sold double the amount of Wii U's. Massive step up.
Still sold double the amount of Wii U's. Massive step up.
If it's similar to Wii U/Gamecube isn't that a bad sign? Wasn't this suppose to correct the issues those consoles had?
Wasn't pooling all their developers from Handheld under one roof suppose to be the correction they made? And that feels like nothing is ready and wont be for some time. Hence the majority of releases including Zelda were all original Wii U games. Say what you want about Splatoon 2 but I'm getting the feeling some of the things in that game are re-used from first spaltoon.
Right now this device like the Wii u has a big question mark of uncertainty until we get more data from other regions. And I thought this whole time the pitch/message/and build up was to mitigate similar Wii U situation?
Right now from outside looking in, feels like NINTENDO hasn't learned anything. How to you launch a system in the state it's in, how do you make decisions on charging the unit that make no sense in 2017?
I guess I don't understand, maybe when there's a revision I'll understand more?
Just my 2 cents.
Still sold double the amount of Wii U's. Massive step up.
Nintendo this gen tried the hardest to woo some Western 3rd parties based on articles online, but seems most Western 3rd parties will stay with Xbox/PS4 userbase until something drastic happens like one of them bows out of the console race. I think Nintendo is hoping some indie developers catch on fire and maybe take a stab at bigger budgeted games. I think this gen, Nintendo gave indies more power and tools to bring their games to the switch. Time will tell if the payoff works. Even if the Switch sells Wii like numbers, doubt EA, Activision, CD Projectz, and Ubisoft will bring their main titles to the Switch.
So if Switch sells 26M at the end of its life it will be a success, right?
In comparison to the other half of their releases? No it isn't massive. Still a good ways to go.
If that is the case, it is going to really be dependent on how much people want to play on the go. That will be the main selling point because we already saw how things go when it is just Nintendo games/indies trying to sell a console.I feel that's a pretty good result given the situation.
1.) The system doesn't have the major Western third parties on board, or any sign that it will.
2.) There isn't even all that much Japanese third party support for that niche.
3.) The idea of the casual audience buying a dedicated device instead of using a phone is a stretch. Younger children are also increasingly hard on this front, and with the older children you're directly competing with Microsoft and Sony.
As such, the core pitch here is playing Nintendo games and maybe indie games on the go. You've got Zelda versus having shiny upgraded versions of all the biggest AAA hits like the PS4 and XB1.
I would say this most closely resembles what the Wii U and GameCube offered, and it's a step up from that sales wise.
That said, I totally get why someone would look at that and view it as low. It is lower than a lot of systems.
Eh, 2 * Wii U numbers isn't impressive.
I would if it was one of the new 3DS models, but that launch one was awful looking back on it
For launch it definitely is good. If they maintain the 2x WiiU track, then it is not impressive, but that can't be deduced from launch week sales.Eh, 2 * Wii U numbers isn't impressive.
We'll know Japan sales on Wednesday with the Media Create thread.Decent numbers but not sure how well that bodes for the remainder of the year.
Surprised we haven't heard anything about numbers from Japan or NA.
It's a start. They are recovering from a massive console bomb and have to prove themselves to the market again. I'd say we need to give Switch the rest of the year before we can start making any long term predictions about it's overall health tbh.
Japan always comes on Wednesday, NA we must rel on Nintendo to speak up, else there is a long wait until March NPD. Think we will hear something from Nintendo at some point before that, though.Decent numbers but not sure how well that bodes for the remainder of the year.
Surprised we haven't heard anything about numbers from Japan or NA.
Man that PS4 number will never be topped will it.
So, is it doomed or not?
Looks like they have now sold what they sent to the UK, I know on launch day you could fairly easily go get one if you wanted. (Argos, prime now etc had stock)
Checking now all are out of stock.
It's not a massive start, but it's at least better than the Wii U.
I know people I work with have no idea about the thing, but it's on the radar with all my gaming friends.
Only one jumped in though, the rest of us are waiting for Mario tbh.