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Netflix's Iron Fist Previews
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Corpsepyre
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Did I just read Marvel being called out on being formulaic? This is how it starts. The fever. The Formula.
DrROBschiz
Member
ugh
still gonna watch it
Loved everything up to this point despite the common criticisms
but yeah... my bar will be set lower going in
still gonna watch it
Loved everything up to this point despite the common criticisms
but yeah... my bar will be set lower going in
Critics were only given the first half of Luke Cage to review
SporeCrawler
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SO its only the first 6 seasons that they have seen? Maybe its like Luke Cage just in reverse?
I mean i think six seasons is more than enough to judge.
I know it's a mistake just being an asshole.
DrROBschiz
Member
bleh here is hoping it breaks the cycle and ends in a bang
SpideySenses
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I remember looking at the cast at first glance and being worried, every show beforehand had real acting heavyweights, looks likely that it would have had problems regardless but I still don't understand what happened in the casting department.
According to the reviews and some of the clips we don't even get that.
Lifejumper
Member
Was this a rushed production or something?
Laieon
Member
Out of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage the only one that I've completed (and enjoyed) was Jessica Jones. Something about the trailer I saw for Iron Fist grabbed me, so I'll probably still check it out. Worst comes to worse it goes into the same "I'll probably never finish this series" pile that Luke Cage and Daredevil are in.
well..........this sucks
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Glad this happened. I haven't enjoyed a Netflix marvel show since the original daredevil despite trying. I feel like they took a lot of the camp out of the shows and replaced them with gritty bullshit, which has hurt them greatly.
Seems like getting Spiderman into MCU and Feige jumped hoops threw a wrench into Marvel TV production.
AoS benefits from this thankfully. Netlix and Inhumans? Not so much.
Iron Fist is actually their attempt at not being gritty ironically.
Orbis Tabula
Member
Disappointing, but I feel like everyone felt it coming. It's a shame, it could have been fun. I've enjoyed the Netflix shows well enough, but I almost wish they were a little less popular so they'd have some reason to try and fix their problems. As far as I've heard, they're big hits for Netflix though, so I don't expect a change. Oh well. Think I'm gonna wait for reactions on the whole season once it drops before I waste my time.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Feige has very little to do with Marvel TV.
Some fuckery went down with Luke Cage and Iron Fist as the latter was supposed to air first, but when Colter got cast they quickly went into production.
You're replying as if what you're saying is a popular consensus but that isn't the case, even in this very thread.
I couldn't disagree more. I think S2 was great.
You would be wrong in that case.
It's pretty widely recognized as having a great season this year, critics included.
darkhunger
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They also took forever to figure out a concept for IF. It was a tough concept to do right with the white savior origins and the TV budget restricting what settings they could use.
Should have just went with Shang-chi as the martial arts dude in the Defenders instead. James Bond style martial arts spy thriller would have been way easier to execute.
Huh? Those two things aren't related in even the slightest.
#fakenews. This is not true at all.
I loved parts of S2, but post Punisher mini-arc it really dropped apart cohesively.
FusedAtoms
Member
Damn, saw this coming from a mile away. Will watch for defenders set up and that's it
More_Badass
Member
Pretty much, except for the Punisher parts of DD season 2 and the fight scenes. Those were excellent- Daredevil S1 - One of the best if not, the best comic book show ever even with it's flaws.
- Daredevil S2 - WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
- Jessica Jones - Amazing villain. Kilgrave is the only one that made this show worth watching for me. Needs better writing though.
- Luke Cage - First half was good, but the second was very bad. The season final fight was a DUMPSTER FIRE. Terrible, terrible acting. That's how bad it was.
Now Iron Fist is not looking good in previews?
Marvel, are you ok?
Who's the showrunner for The Punisher series?
Yeah, I just don't agree with that. I had liked the Hand arc. Not as much as the Punisher arc. That's hard to top as it's up there with the best of comic TV and movies. But still, I had a great time watching it and I think it's the only Netflix Marvel season that didn't have an episode or two where the pacing became an issue.
TarpitCarnivore
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I think what is going on is critics are finally starting to hold these shows to higher standards. Early on it was easy to forgive pacing issues because 'binge' watching was new territory, but it's been 4 years since House of Cards. I know for myself I've been slowly falling out of enjoyment of a lot of these streaming only shows. Even the Amazon Prime show with Bryan Cranston was severely flawed despite the cast.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Steve Lightfoot. He was a big part of Hannibal so I think it's in good hands.
I have no idea why Marvel doubled down on Buck. Then again, like someone mentioned, Iron Fist wasn't a project anybody was rushing to do. This was the redheaded stepchild of the street level shows
R_thanatos
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as someone who loved daredevil S1 , enjoyed daredevil S2 , Hated jessica jones , loved luke cage ( yes , even the second part ) , i'm not worried.
This is a necessary evil that it starts slow. It just needs to end great.
This is a necessary evil that it starts slow. It just needs to end great.
That's going to be damn good.
We'll be back on track soon enough. Defenders and Punisher should deliver.
Yeah, I just don't get reactions like this. I get having issues with the second half of each, I do. But why does everything have to be one extreme or the other? Trash, really?
Trash is... season 2 of Heroes. The final seasons of Dexter and True Blood.
DDS1 and JJ were both great in my opinion. DD was solid all around and JJ had some real high marks (along with some low mark, I'll admit).
But last year we had DDS2 which started strong and ended up bad - the Hand plot may be the worst thing Marvel Studios has ever put out - and Luke Cage was just mediocre straight on through.
So my enthusiasm for Iron Fist was real low even going in. Follow that up with a string of subpart trailers, lots of bad news on the production side, and now this... like, damn. And this is coming from a BIG fan of the character.
Just gotta hope Defenders is decent.
But last year we had DDS2 which started strong and ended up bad - the Hand plot may be the worst thing Marvel Studios has ever put out - and Luke Cage was just mediocre straight on through.
So my enthusiasm for Iron Fist was real low even going in. Follow that up with a string of subpart trailers, lots of bad news on the production side, and now this... like, damn. And this is coming from a BIG fan of the character.
Just gotta hope Defenders is decent.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yep. They've slowly been building to a total train wreck for a while now.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Iron Fist is probably the character out of these 4 who is most suited to having an actual movie made. But it might have ended up too similar to Doctor Strange, maybe that's even why they're not focusing as much on the Mystical aspect in the show. Which is absolutely a mistake.
Yea, AoS is definitively the best after this season.
Primethius
Banned
The trailers looked terrible so I'm not surprised about the previews. Well, that's a skip.
Yeah, I think Danny's origin story has been cannibalized by a combo of Batman Begins, Iron Man, and Doctor Strange - which just came out less than six months ago. The writers were kind of screwed here: either deviate from the comics and invent a new background, or stick to what's a pretty well worn story now.
Angelus Errare
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darkhunger
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Iron Fist's world is too street level for Feige.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I'm not shocked at all. The writing was on the wall ever since they hired Scott Buck.
DeviantBoi
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No surprise since they hired the guy responsible for the last seasons of Dexter.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
At least there is the Defenders later this year.
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