• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

UFC 212 Aldo vs Holloway: Now We Will See Who Is The Real Cham...Number Two!!!

bq07fLn.jpg


The UFC hosts an event that is sort of ok where two guys will fight each other to see who is THE UNDISPUTED GREATEST #2 FEATHERWEIGHT OF ALL TIME.

MAIN CARD:

PTtTlpZ.png


It's CHAMPION* vs CHAMPION* in this 145 lbs main event.

Jose Waldo takes on his second toughest test to date in #BlessedMMA to see who wins the right to hopelessly call out Conor McGregor for the next year before finally giving up and adapting the publicity strategy of "HE NEVER EVEN DEFENDED THE BELT THE FANS KNOW WHO THE REAL CHAMP IS, I DON'T NEED HIM" but secretly praying to the MMA gods for that sweet McGregor money fight every night.

*Interim and promoted Interim champion, respectively

peCUNF9.png


Two girls Joanna Champion unanimously brutalized back down the ladder go at it for the right to a chance at a another inevitable brutalizing.

DAnfLuY.png


Two legit LEGENDS fight about 10 years and 20 fights too late sans-TRT.

OFwjlWZ.png


I got nothing.

TAyfSjk.png


Erick Silva is a disgraceful fighter that throws cheap shots and stole Claudia Gadelha's DNA.

PRELIMS:

4v8i5DZ.png


UFC EMBEDDED EPISODES:

EPISODE 1

EPISODE 2

EPISODE 3

EPISODE 4

EPISODE 5
 
is this cuz Brazil is on the underside of the Earth or is this some obscure reference that only the worst MMA nerds understand?
 
Not understanding this upside down thing.

If it's a reference to a poster which is the first image, it's a broken link, friend.

BTW Wilhelm, Bisping is still a chicken.
 

-MD-

Member
Thread title is trash.

I got Aldo and Karolina. Main event is the most excited I've been for a fight this year.

Not understanding this upside down thing.

If it's a reference to a poster which is the first image, it's a broken link, friend.

BTW Wilhelm, Bisping is still a chicken.

The 212 poster is reversible
 
Thread title is so ridiculous. If McGregor wasn't busy booking carnival fights he would be giving Aldo a rematch, or Nick Diaz for that matter considering they're 1-1 and he won a close decision in the second fight.

He stopped being the champion when he decided that he'd rather wrestle bears for money or whatever other gimmick fight he's planning.
 

Tater Tot

"My God... it's full of Starch!"
Thread title is so ridiculous. If McGregor wasn't busy booking carnival fights he would be giving Aldo a rematch, or Nick Diaz for that matter considering they're 1-1 and he won a close decision in the second fight.

He stopped being the champion when he decided that he'd rather wrestle bears for money or whatever other gimmick fight he's planning.

Mcgregor =/= khalabeeb time
 
Thread title is so ridiculous. If McGregor wasn't busy booking carnival fights he would be giving Aldo a rematch, or Nick Diaz for that matter considering they're 1-1 and he won a close decision in the second fight.

He stopped being the champion when he decided that he'd rather wrestle bears for money or whatever other gimmick fight he's planning.
Oh, what a surprise here, Bam Bam hating on another GOAT, just like LBJ.

If Aldo did get a rematch, he'd get knocked out again. He's sleeping against Max (Who Conor also dominated) too.

Blessed.
 

-MD-

Member
Oh, what a surprise here, Bam Bam hating on another GOAT, just like LBJ.

If Aldo did get a rematch, he'd get knocked out again. He's sleeping against Max (Who Conor also dominated) too.

Blessed.

Who knew defeating Siver was the path to becoming a goat.
 
Oh, what a surprise here, Bam Bam hating on another GOAT, just like LBJ.

If Aldo did get a rematch, he'd get knocked out again. He's sleeping against Max (Who Conor also dominated) too.

Blessed.

I dunno what's funnier, BBB confusing the Diaz brothers or McGregor nuthuggers even ironically inferring Conor is anywhere near GOAT status.
 
Look at all these sad sacks trying to pretend like McGregor didn't tarnish Aldo's legacy.


If you dont defend the title, you are not the champ.

Bruh I dare you to throw a freshly baked tray of lasagna at Matt Serra's feet and tell him he was never really the champ.

I double dog dare you.
 
Look at all these sad sacks trying to pretend like McGregor didn't tarnish Aldo's legacy.

To be serious here for a second...

Jose can win out the rest of his career, and his career will still always be defined by those 13 seconds, his bitching afterwards, and not taking the rematch (Regardless if it was enough time or not) when it was offered. I should feel bad for the guy, but he was such a sore loser after being promoted as one of the all times greats, I just can't. I hope Max knocks him out.
 

Tater Tot

"My God... it's full of Starch!"
my guys Joe Rogan said that the 13 sec KO will forever tarnish Aldo's Legacy that he can never be the GOAT because of it.

If he would have never gotten KO'd in arguably the biggest match of his career that he was definitely on the list of being the GOAT from his accomplishments in WEC and UFC.

is Joe ROgan right my dudes?
 
That 13 second knockout is no different than Serra beating GSP aside from the fact Aldo was denied a rematch.

It'll go down in history as an upset that bears no meaning beyond how badly the UFC fucked over one of their most decorated and dominant champions in the history of the promotion to placate some pretender that never defended a belt in his life, who then got choked out by a LW gatekeeper in his next fight and barely squeaked out a W point fighting in a rematch.

You McNugget fanboys are enamoured now but not all that glitters is gold. McGregor will be remembered for his money making acumen in a career built by and large facing opponents too small for him, not his fighting prowess.
 

Tater Tot

"My God... it's full of Starch!"
my guy in cage warriors mcgregor was schedulded to defend his 145 belt but his opponent pulled out

so he moved up in weight and got his second strap

(not saying I disagree with what you are saying though)
 

Rur0ni

Member
That 13 second knockout is no different than Serra beating GSP aside from the fact Aldo was denied a rematch.

It'll go down in history as an upset that bears no meaning beyond how badly the UFC fucked over one of their most decorated and dominant champions in the history of the promotion to placate some pretender that never defended a belt in his life, who then got choked out by a LW gatekeeper in his next fight and barely squeaked out a W point fighting in a rematch.

You McNugget fanboys are enamoured now but not all that glitters is gold. McGregor will be remembered for his money making acumen in a career built by and large facing opponents too small for him, not his fighting prowess.
giphy.gif
 
That 13 second knockout is no different than Serra beating GSP aside from the fact Aldo was denied a rematch.

It'll go down in history as an upset that bears no meaning beyond how badly the UFC fucked over one of their most decorated and dominant champions in the history of the promotion to placate some pretender that never defended a belt in his life, who then got choked out by a LW gatekeeper in his next fight and barely squeaked out a W point fighting in a rematch.

You McNugget fanboys are enamoured now but not all that glitters is gold. McGregor will be remembered for his money making acumen in a career built by and large facing opponents too small for him, not his fighting prowess.

1. Jose was offered a rematch. He turned it down. I don't care if it's 11 days notice. He was bitching about it nonstop afterwards, and he claimed he was staying in shape in case RDA pulled out. He could of gotten his revenge, like he said he wanted, regardless if it was for the 145 title.
2. I don't think many people would call it an upset right now, Conor's went on to become a two-weight champion, I think it's safe to say he'd be favored in a rematch.
3. Conor is a few inches taller than a lot of the guys he fought (Though shorter than Max) but you make it sound like he towers over them.
4. Comparing McGregor to Serra? I can only assume you are trolling like I was when said he was the GOAT, because that's ridiculous.

If he didn't fight again, Conor will be remembered as a two-division champion, a fighter who with a deadly left hand and top notch counters. Hardly what you said he would be remembered as, huh? Maybe not GOAT levels like I joked (and will continue to say in response to terms like McNuggets) but that's reserved for the likes of Fedor, Silva, and GSP.
 

sirap

Member
I feel bad for Aldo, that 13-second knockout must have stolen a large chunk of his soul. Dude looks so lost whenever someone brings that up lol.

Still, I'll be rooting for him tomorrow. Holloway is hot right now but I still think the former champ has enough in the tank to win.
 
Oh, what a surprise here, Bam Bam hating on another GOAT, just like LBJ.

If Aldo did get a rematch, he'd get knocked out again. He's sleeping against Max (Who Conor also dominated) too.

Blessed.

Actually, I tend to "hate" on overrated sports media stars who are idolized through prisoner of the moment bias. I give true greats their due.

McGregor and Lebron are not in the conversation of their respective sports as the greatest.
 
my guys Joe Rogan said that the 13 sec KO will forever tarnish Aldo's Legacy that he can never be the GOAT because of it.

If he would have never gotten KO'd in arguably the biggest match of his career that he was definitely on the list of being the GOAT from his accomplishments in WEC and UFC.

is Joe ROgan right my dudes?

Aldo is the GOAT at 145, but he ain't #1.
 
I got Aldo and Karolina. Main event is the most excited I've been for a fight this year.
Honestly, Max Holloway strikes me an overachiever that would get starched by the Korean Zombie and 50-45'd by Frankie. I seriously don't see how Max beats Aldo, even if Aldo does his gas-out-by-the-4th-and-coast thing.

I also have to say, when the two of them did the stare down at the press conference earlier in the week and were then BOTH handed their belts for the cameras I legit laughed out loud. Both of these guys lost to Conor and I still find the circumstances under which they both got their belts to be completely ridiculous.

UFC titles don't hold anywhere near the weight they used to.
Let us not forget that that was a fluke win, OP. Conor's been running ever since
superman-dad-death-reaction-Kevin-Costner-1387241798Q.gif

Running? This is revisionist history at its worst. Conor signed to fight then-champ Rafael Dos Anjos for the lightweight championship after brutally KOing Aldo. RDA was looking like an unstoppable beast at the time and an awful matchup for Conor. Most people in the know were predicting a RDA win there. Not Conor's fault RDA pulled out 2 weeks before the fight as a quite a few others have done. He does a short notice fight with Diaz at 170 (a 145er going up to 170 is ridiculous), loses one, books and wins a rematch, ALSO AT 170 because he's stubborn like that, signs up to fight for the lightweight title again because that's what he initially set out to do before this Diaz thing happened, KOs Alvarez cold, and then wants some time off for paternity leave and is now entertaining the idea of Floyd fight because $$$.

He may not be focused on defending his only remaining title right now because Floyd called him out and he's looking to get that big payday, and yeah this Floyd thing is annoying, but to claim that Conor has been "running" ever since KOing Aldo is just a tad bit disingenuous.
 
1. Jose was offered a rematch. He turned it down. I don't care if it's 11 days notice. He was bitching about it nonstop afterwards, and he claimed he was staying in shape in case RDA pulled out. He could of gotten his revenge, like he said he wanted, regardless if it was for the 145 title.
2. I don't think many people would call it an upset right now, Conor's went on to become a two-weight champion, I think it's safe to say he'd be favored in a rematch.
3. Conor is a few inches taller than a lot of the guys he fought (Though shorter than Max) but you make it sound like he towers over them.
4. Comparing McGregor to Serra? I can only assume you are trolling like I was when said he was the GOAT, because that's ridiculous.

If he didn't fight again, Conor will be remembered as a two-division champion, a fighter who with a deadly left hand and top notch counters. Hardly what you said he would be remembered as, huh? Maybe not GOAT levels like I joked (and will continue to say in response to terms like McNuggets) but that's reserved for the likes of Fedor, Silva, and GSP.

1. Aldo was under medical suspension, he couldn't take the fight even if he wanted to, and even if he wasn't, he deserved much better than to have to fill in on short notice for one of Conor's opponents. The UFC treated every dominant champion before him better than they treated Aldo.

2. It was an upset. Aldo is the unquestionable FW GOAT, and no one else comes close. Even the people who thought McGregor would win were shocked how it happened. There is a reason the phrase "flash KO" exist. The whole story wasn't told in that fight, and rather than stay and defend his belt McGregor was allowed by the UFC to move up.

3. McGregor has had a sizeable reach or height advantage, if not both, over pretty much every one he's ever fought. That will define more of his career than Aldo losing in what will probably go down in history as a freak KO.

4. Comparing McGregor to Serra is perfectly acceptable as neither ever defended their title. Actually, at least Serra tried.

As it stands McGregor being a 2 division champ will forever be marred by the fact the UFC made it easy on him and facilitated the accomplishment in no small part. History will chronicle how McGregor was alllowed to shirk his duties as champion, how he never defended his FW belt, how he held up the FW division going 1-1 with a LW gatekeeper at WW, was then gifted a LW title shot against a weak champion (also smaller than McGregor), was then was stripped of the FW belt, and then held up the LW division only to be stripped of that belt as well.

The feat of multiple simultaneous championships will be replicated eventually by fighters who didn't have opportunities handed to them when they were unworthy. People will remember that.

If McGregor goes down as the worst UFC champion in history, he deserves it.
 

-MD-

Member
Honestly, Max Holloway strikes me an overachiever that would get starched by the Korean Zombie and 50-45'd by Frankie. I seriously don't see how Max beats Aldo, even if Aldo does his gas-out-by-the-4th-and-coast thing.

I also have to say, when the two of them did the stare down at the press conference earlier in the week and were then BOTH handed their belts for the cameras I legit laughed out loud. Both of these guys lost to Conor and I still find the circumstances under which they both got their belts to be completely ridiculous.

UFC titles don't hold anywhere near the weight they used to.

Max's belt is a bit of a joke considering he was up against a shot 1-3 Anthony Pettis to earn it, however I don't see why folks have such a problem with Aldo beating the #1 guy in Edgar convincingly to earn his, it can't be helped that Conor bailed on the division.

But yeah they're handing out interims like candy these days.
 
I have way more respect for Aldo and even shitty person Ronda Rousey as champions than Conor.
They successfully defended their championships proving they deserved them.

As for the great fights on this card, I have Jose Aldo and Claudia winning but I ain't fucking betting.
 
Honestly surprised so many are picking Max.
He's very good but maybe it's their hearts talking more than their heads.
I wouldn't be shocked if he won though.

If Max wins body shots will play a big factor as will overall volume. His hook to the body is his secret weapon though.

But still I kinda expect Aldo to somewhat dominate Max here.
 
usually these UFC threads don't go Brown Bomber immediately unless the main event is someone like JBJ, Conor or Ronda. Conor really is the GOAT.

I believe in Max. He's only gotten better and I think he's shown he's a more intelligent fighter than Aldo.
 

Dysun

Member
McGregor would beat both of them in a rematch, but it's still a compelling fight. Rest of the card except for Karolina and Gadelha is lackluster.
 
Top Bottom