The target audience would be me
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Xenoblade 2 confirmed for Holiday 2017
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The target audience would be me
Connected thematically I suppose. No indication they are related by story or even in the same universe.
Aaronrules380
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They've literally said they aren't, so unless they're lying, it's not the same universe
AlphaDragoon
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Overdrive Photon Saber build with Essence Exchange was so nuts. I loved it.
Aaronrules380
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Blossom dance longsword builds were also insane. I remember taking off hundreds of health bars in one session with a global nemesis with a group abusing that build
Mister Wolf
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I found it more streamlined than the other two games especially with the arts mapped to the buttons. I also like how there are two kinds of combo chains now both being more extensive than previous titles. We get the physical chains with break, topple, daze?, and launch with them saying there was even more to it. We also now have status effect chains that look to have multiple routes they can go when attacking an enemy. To me it looks deeper than the previous two titles. That's not even bringing up wielding the different Blades and the little we know about leveling them up.
Takahashi says no. There are similar elements so far to the first one, but there are supposed to be no real story links.
No way to really answer this until it actually comes out. If there are any connections, it'll probably just be to the first one.
Aaronrules380
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I mean Takahashi literally said there weren't any
Link?
Really hope there is a way to encourage team-mate synergy. I did not like seeing them begging for a topple when the boss was broken in the stream so that they could do a combo. AI either needs to be smarter about this or be programmable and/or controllable, imo. Otherwise they have to balance around the combat system working as a bonus rather than a given.
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I think it would be more rewarding if team play was strong and called on you to finish a combo or to start a chain regularly, if they are doing this combo system.
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I think it would be more rewarding if team play was strong and called on you to finish a combo or to start a chain regularly, if they are doing this combo system.
I feel like enough people were put off by X that I wouldn't want to recommend it blindly. It's an entirely different beast of a game
Exentryk
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OP should add the treehouse presentation link to the first post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGk6VMcJsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGk6VMcJsw
Hmm, all right. Still, I wouldn't exactly expect him to say "yes, they are connected" in an interview if such a connection turns out to be a big plot development. But I'll take his word for it!
TheGreatLugia
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I definitely think 2 looks nicer than X visually, but I don't think it's a drastic jump.
Takahashi confirmed 2 is built on X's engine, so going from X to 2 wouldn't be a visual leap like going from 1 to X.
Huh. Interesting. So this gameplay confirms that the Blades are anthropomorphized weapons, rather than character party members, and Rex can swap to different Blades who are teetered to him? And it looks like... errr.... other than the girls who are story Blades, there is.... Blade gacha? I wonder if they're going to monetize this.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
Two other controllable party members are shown in the presentation who each have their own blades, too.
Can they swap though? I took it as a modern Persona type deal. Is it?
Exentryk
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I was thinking the same thing when they picked up and "opened" the crystal. Making them random would be just the dumbest fucking thing, so I seriously hope that's not the direction they've taken and there's a ridiculous story reason for the Generic Crystal name.
??? Who is doing this????????
MetalliCabombination
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Oh surely theres a ton more depth, its just that the fights themselves arent very good looking. And i wont lie, it may just be the formula repetition setting in.
TheGreatLugia
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There are empty slots for Nia having multiple blades in the battle U.I., but I didn't see Treehouse look at her blade options in the party menu.
Interesting, thanks. Wonder if they can do any old blade or have their own set.
And that feeds into the new question I had
Thanks.Sounds like there's a shared set of blades in that case, or it determines on opening, rather than purchase.
ThatChairMan
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I believe so. In the menu where Rex unlocked a new Blade, the menu asked to select a character first. Presumably, you select which character unlocks a crystal, and that Blade becomes tied to them.
duysieuhero
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Japanese trailer
youtu.be/V636zFPoz-I
youtu.be/V636zFPoz-I
Blade gacha would seriously make me reassess my day one purchase decision. That sort of shit needs to stay far away from non-mobile games.
But it's not an if, it's literally a system they demoed in the video. There are "core crystal" items you collect which you can use to "bond" and awaken new Blades, which are randomized. The demo shows "Unsigned Core Crystal" being used, so presumably there might be signed ones which give specific Blades, probably tied to DLC and/or Amiibos.
Ugh...Sword waifus/defaults for other characters better be great.
I skipped that part of the demo to pickle some vegetables...I actually thought the blade system seemed pretty cool until this.
I saw that, but I'm trying to stay optimistic. All we saw was someone picking a generic sounding crystal item and awakening a seemingly random Blade from it, but I don't think they actually explicitly said anything about it other than "we can use this to awaken a new Blade"?
Maybe the gear works similarly to other JRPGs for the most part - you find chests with set blades (or crystals for them, to be precise)/other gear throughout the world, you can buy new stuff/specific signed crystals etc., but in addition to this, some enemies can drop generic unsigned crystals that awaken a random Blade from a pool of Blades specific to that titan or something.
I dunno. I just want to believe they seriously didn't turn acquiring new weapons and arts, which are kind of important for planning builds and not to mention game balance, into fucking luck-based gacha grinds.
e: at least it didn't have a 1 to 6 star rating lol
Thing with a gacha mech is...I don't like the idea of having my weapon/ability coverage be random. I also don't like the idea of the characters of my party being chosen at random. I prefer to choose and find that kind of stuff organically in gameplay (the latter being the reason I dislike in-app purchase models on a gameplay level).
I mean random drops are bad enough...but at least you get those in normal play.
Gambling just isn't 'normal' play imo, for whatever reason.
I mean random drops are bad enough...but at least you get those in normal play.
Gambling just isn't 'normal' play imo, for whatever reason.
But the term gaming is traditionally used to refer to gambling. We've just gone full circle!
Yeah japanese voices fit a lot better those character designs. Doesn't make them better, but at least we don't have a young boy avatar with an adult voice.
I get I was on a bad slope lol. It is why I had that loot drop bit because what I feel there is a bit inconsistent.
Still, it is how I feel.
I haven't watched the Treehouse footage yet, but I wanted to ask if we know anything about the mech/sci-fi topics Takahashi loves to develop. Of course this is more of a fantasy tale, but even in XC they explored the relation between man and machine.
Also, the designs for X were great. They obviously lost something in the translation to 3D models, but Tanaka's work was good.
Also, the designs for X were great. They obviously lost something in the translation to 3D models, but Tanaka's work was good.
They asked him about xeno and he just said he made games about foreign things coming together in some way so "xeno-," nothing about his love of robots as I recall.
Should make a game about guest-friendship next and call it Xeniablade.
Truly depressing
hopefully there is dual audio. Not a purist by any means, but these kinds of designs with british voices just seems bizarre
The red haired chick has a supreme wedgie and over-inflated implants....first fire emblem and now this...and i thought chronicles X was pretty bad
The red haired chick has a supreme wedgie and over-inflated implants....first fire emblem and now this...and i thought chronicles X was pretty bad
ThatChairMan
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Hearing Homura but reading Pyra would be weird. Do hope for dual audio though.
These blades are characters/auxiliary party members. They're tied to your arts in some capacity and help determine playstyle, it seems.
So they're particularly big things to be randomized.
Also, as I said, I think they are particularly big things to be encountered in a shop and out of a randomized capsule. They're things I want to get doing quests, dungeons, and bosses as a reward that fits into that gameplay.
For some reason I also find randomized enemy and chest drops more appealing than randomized shop items. I don't like adding RNG hassle to shop gameplay. I prefer that simple and straightforward.
I'm more okay grinding enemies for parts that they in particular have. Idk. It is heavier engagement with the game that goes into the reward.
That said, I prefer random enemy drops have "reasonable" odds and not be things like characters/skills.
You don't see why people would be averse to completely randomized weapons in a linear (especially compared to the games you mentioned) JRPG? Weapons, which also determine what arts you can use?
I don't remember the boxes from Horizon and I haven't played GR2, but the items you mention sound like something you just use to slightly improve your weapons. In this case, the actual weapons are seemingly randomized, and the weapons have a massive effect on your playstyle/party synergy/builds.
Worst case scenario, RNG gods will fuck you over at every corner and you'll keep running into bosses that you can't beat with your current Blade/party synergy, and you'll have to grind crystals, hoping for Blades with skills/arts that'll make victory possible.
Trailer confirmed there's no dual audio.
The character models are remarkable improvements over the past games
Yeah, sure.
In fact it looks worse than XCX models.
kuroneko0509
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bgm used in e3 trailer are composed by kenji hiramatsu. for reveal trailer bgm, 1st part is by ace and 2nd part is by mitsuda
WTF
I'm out then; the designs I could tolerate, but no JP audio is just bullshit, specifically because of how poor the English VA is.