Might be another Lego City Undercover....maybe its best to wait for official information.
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Nintendo details how physical games bigger than 32GB will work on Switch
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Might be another Lego City Undercover....maybe its best to wait for official information.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
There's really no point anymore when the games are incomplete. You can't even save space on memory by going physical.
frankie_baby
Member
Its pretty clear they are basing their info on the download code in a box version without realising, i do wonder sometimes how much time so called games journalists actually spend bothering to actually do journalism
jts
...hate me...
The license is still attached to the physical cart, you have the box to collect and display, and are able to resell. Which are basically the main reasons why people buy physical.
If the picture in the OP is of a download card, that makes sense. Switch has 32 gig internal storage, but not all of that is available (some is used for the operating system, reserved for saves/photos/etc).
If this is the physical cartridge cover art (as IGN claims), then "Micro SD Card Required" doesn't necessarily make sense. Whatever can't fit on the card should be able to fit in internal storage, even if it means some people delete game data.
Anyway, my current questions:
*Is this in fact the physical box art and not a download card?
*Can't you just use internal storage to make up for the missing memory?
*Shouldn't the "MicroSD Card Required" state how big said card has to be?
*How big is the NBA 2K18 card?
*If the card is less than 32 gig, why wouldn't Nintendo cut a publishing deal with 2K and help them on the costs of a bigger card? This is an uncommon scenario, and surely Nintendo wants this 3rd party game on Switch.
EDIT: I know some of this has been answered, but not with any sources. Seems more like guessing/assuming.
If this is the physical cartridge cover art (as IGN claims), then "Micro SD Card Required" doesn't necessarily make sense. Whatever can't fit on the card should be able to fit in internal storage, even if it means some people delete game data.
Anyway, my current questions:
*Is this in fact the physical box art and not a download card?
*Can't you just use internal storage to make up for the missing memory?
*Shouldn't the "MicroSD Card Required" state how big said card has to be?
*How big is the NBA 2K18 card?
*If the card is less than 32 gig, why wouldn't Nintendo cut a publishing deal with 2K and help them on the costs of a bigger card? This is an uncommon scenario, and surely Nintendo wants this 3rd party game on Switch.
EDIT: I know some of this has been answered, but not with any sources. Seems more like guessing/assuming.
You don't see the difference between having 500gigs or being able to expand that into the terabytes and 32 gigs?
I'm pretty positive you're intentionally missing how having more room allows for more flexibility with game management.
frankie_baby
Member
The physical version isnt even coming out yet, the version with the "box art" saying microSD card required comes out same day as the other versions so obviously is a download card
frankie_baby
Member
Probably just as wasy to fill 500gb on those as the 32gb on switch
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
With 500gb you could at least hold several large AAA games. Switch's internal memory can't even hold one.
Even at 500gb it was a good idea to add an external HDD or replace the HDD with a bigger one. With Switch you can only add a pricey memory card that's still not sufficient to handle modern AAA games.
Switch was designed with Nintendo first party and indies in mind.
It'd be great if they offered some sort of non proprietary way for people to expand their storage.
32GB is enough to start off with and will allow most people to play their games without much trouble, while people who must buy every game and prefers to download them have options available to them. Would more be better, sure, but they are a business and NAND is a commodity is short supply, so I am not going to cry over the cost of a cheap memory card I might need to buy in a few years.
If you pretend every game on the the X1/PS4 is 70 gigs. I can see how one thinks that. Shocker...there are games with variable sizes. Even Destiny isn't that big a game.
Wanting better solutions isn't crying...no matter how the onion is sliced.
frankie_baby
Member
Most people still buy their AAA games physically, you dont have to install physical games on switch so yeah just as easy to fill up a ps4
Long before the NX announcement, I was skeptical of Nintendo using cartridges for their next console due to cost reasons. For a publisher, having to pay even as little as $2 extra per unit compared to a Blu Ray disc adds up pretty quickly. So it isn't surprising that larger games will have to make compromises on storage space, like having part of the game be downloadable and whatnot.
While this still requires an internet connection at some point and might require buying a Micro SD card, it's still very different than buying a box with just a download code in it because you can still buy used, at a discount or borrow the game since the rest of the game is just a free patch that isn't tied to any account. It's also smaller than buying the digital version.
While this still requires an internet connection at some point and might require buying a Micro SD card, it's still very different than buying a box with just a download code in it because you can still buy used, at a discount or borrow the game since the rest of the game is just a free patch that isn't tied to any account. It's also smaller than buying the digital version.
chronic_archaic
Member
Not sure why this is such a big issue. The 360 started requiring a hard drive for most of it's games around 2013 and nobody complained about that.
And this was before you could use any USB hard drive and some games still demand an actual 360 hard drive. Also yeah the Vita has been doing this for awhile, if anything this is the easiest thing since you can use microSD. Did nobody see this coming just because it's a handheld?
And this was before you could use any USB hard drive and some games still demand an actual 360 hard drive. Also yeah the Vita has been doing this for awhile, if anything this is the easiest thing since you can use microSD. Did nobody see this coming just because it's a handheld?
Zelda and Mario Kart 8 would take up 20gig. Uncharted 4 and Horizon would take up 90gig. So not quite. 128gig on Switch would be a closer comparison to 500gig on the PS4.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yes you do. Unless you don't mind chunks of game missing.
This has been sobering, because I was under the impression that buying physical prevented you from using internal memory. Until cart sizes increase and prices decrease I can see why certain big name games aren't appearing on Switch.
Also, Zelda and Mario don't require installs, so if you buy them physical they take much less than 20GB, while Uncharted 4 and Horizon will always take 90GB even if you buy physical.
Isn't that when the X1 released?
frankie_baby
Member
Again there hasnt yet been a physical game that needs a digital chunk
Lightning_Roller
Banned
The fuck is this!?!? As someone who buys physical first and digital second, to say this is a bummer is just being nice.
That ceased being the case on consoles with the PS4 and XB1. People complained a lot back then too, because physical owners would have to do fridge managed which was something only digital-buyers had to deal with, but eventually everyone adapted to it.
On the PS4 and XB1, yes, there are. Many games require day one patches to be functional and there was that Tony Hawks game that was literally released incomplete and wasn't playable at all without the patch.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
If you want to pretend NBA 2K won't be a physical cart. Guaranteed WWE will be the same way.
If you want to deny they're coming be my guest, but you know they are.
frankie_baby
Member
I'm talking about on the switch
Bruce Springsteen
Member
When I get a switch it's all digital
frankie_baby
Member
The info we have so far on nba is just about the download version, we'll see when the physical version eventually turns up
I think it's a bit too much to expect Nintendo to provide a system that can handle ports of PS4/XB1 games, work as a handheld, use cartridges instead of BR discs and still not have have to deal with any of the shenanigans PS4/XB1 owners have to deal with.
From a quick research on eMMC NAND prices, the price difference between the 32GB Switch and a 128 GB Switch would be at least $50. You can find 128GB Micro SD cards for less than that on Amazon and make yourself a 160GB Switch.
it makes zero sense for Nintendo to sell a higher storage SKU if the price difference ultimately would be on par with buying a Micro SD card.
There's no download code in a box SKU announced for Switch.
encephalon
Member
Buying physical for my wii u required me to buy an external hd. I have less than ten games and a number of vc titles.
Petrae
Member
-- Half the frame rate
-- Requires an SD card
The price of portability is both aesthetic and financial, not to mention having to wait around for 6+ hours for the rest of the game to download.
TTWO will make its money on this, I'm sure, but it's easily a hard pass for me at full price.
-- Requires an SD card
The price of portability is both aesthetic and financial, not to mention having to wait around for 6+ hours for the rest of the game to download.
TTWO will make its money on this, I'm sure, but it's easily a hard pass for me at full price.
It's actually good they jump the gun. Makes companies immediately go "oh fuck, we better inform them and never actually do mandatory installs".
I very much doubt WB would have made an official statement if it wasn't for the unjustified backlash.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I bought physical for my Wii U and never needed an external HDD. I also had more games then you.
Astral Dog
Member
I mean, this wasn't exactly hard to see im surprised this discussion goes on
Despite its impressive tech the Switch is still a portable way below an Xbox One designed to be played as a handheld, its NOT a portable Xbox/PS4 and never was, but more if a Wii U + some developers will fit better with that than others. (no AAA modern support)
encephalon
Member
I mistakenly bought a "basic" model, thinking it would be OK if i didn't download games. But i didn't realize the os would take up as much as it did.
D.Lo
Member
VC games take up jack all space, and only ONE Wii U game requires an installation, BoTW, and it only needs 3GB.
UnemployedVillain
Member
If by "decent sized" you mean whatever size makes it cost more then yeah. You can get 128GB for under $100
I'm going to call BS unless you got the Basic.
I really wanted to get this game on the Switch for portability, but having to pay $60 plus having to buy a microsd card is really turning me off. There are deals out there where I can just get the PC version for $30.
It doesn't even make sense to come out with a physical version if you have to download the other half of the game.
It doesn't even make sense to come out with a physical version if you have to download the other half of the game.
Options? What's that?
D.Lo
Member
Maybe Nintendo should stick a medium sized SD card in the box (like they used to do with 3DS etc) for a bundle just to shut 'it needs more storage' people up.
You can actually get a 200GB micro SD for jut over 100 dollaridoos now.
lol.
You can actually get a 200GB micro SD for jut over 100 dollaridoos now.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Oh geez, yeah that 8gb wasn't getting you anywhere. I had the 32GB model so I was well off and even had a couple digital Wii U games along with dlc and VC. I had a spare external HDD, but the Wii U was too weak to power it.
D.Lo
Member
You just need a Y cable and the Wii U can power any HDD I believe, it uses two USB ports.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Wait, so it's like Lega City Undercover, except actually happening this time?
I thought we dodged that bullet
I thought we dodged that bullet
Gamezone
Gold Member
Wait, so it's like Lega City Undercover, except actually happening this time?
I thought we dodged that bullet
Just speculation all over again. My bet is another false alarm. Shouldn't the physical version turn up soon?
More like 2K being 2K cause they could have used a 32GB cart right now.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Welp, too late now. Lol
RevolutionizeTheGame
Neo Member
SD cards are the future.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2001/06/22/gamecubes-memory-advantage
http://m.ign.com/articles/2001/06/22/gamecubes-memory-advantage
Wait, so it's like Lega City Undercover, except actually happening this time?
I thought we dodged that bullet
We only have the updated boxart to go with. But given the huge "warning", it would be hilarious if that change was made by mistake.
Mexen
Member
This is far closer to what I meant with my post.