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Pacific Rim Uprising - Trailer 1

Qvoth

Member
i'm scared to watch this, does this have lots of spoilers?
i reaaaaaaaaally liked the 1st movie so i don't wanna spoil anything
 

Jezan

Member
Awful music.
The narration would have been okay.. as narration, showing that it was an actual speech being delivered in the film was a bad idea, it was really cheesy.
The first film was a pleasant surprise for me, this one looks.. eh. Does not have the same atmosphere as the first film, this one looks like Transformers.
Boyega trying to outdo Idris Elba's Cancelling the apocalypse speech.

Boyega is like Katy Perry, trying too hard to become something, instead of working what they do best for it.
I was coming to say a similar thing but didn't know how to put it, you did so much better than I. Maybe it is the camera work, but they don't look as imposing and don't look as big comparatively. From the way they moved in the first film to shots of helicopters bringing them in, they looked like big machines that had a real weight to them and everything they did.

To me this, as others have already said, looks like a bunch of Transformers running around and less like a sequel to the first in some respects. I really love the first film and can happily sit and watch it any day of the week, the trailer didn't do much for me, but I also really didn't feel the music which might have been a big part of it.
The last scene where the Jaegers start to run, Gipsy looks like if she is jumping.
Idk, that Jaeger at 1:40 sure looks damn heavy

Looking heavy and obeying the weight physics are two different things. These Jaegers looks more acrobatic, when in the last movie the only jump one did had a lot of windup and even used additional thrusters to be able to "jump"
 
all floaty Bay-esque and shit...

what a let down.


It does look like Transformers, but somehow I have a feeling it won't make me sick watching it like transformers does, either through its headache inducing CG or badly written script.

It can't ever be that bad, right?
 
I love the fact that much of the action we see takes place in the day time.

The suits look cheap though.

I'm not bothered by how fast they move for now, since these are Mach 6 and Mach 7 Jaegers. They're supposed to be faster. Just like Striker Eureka was faster than Gipsy and Cherno Alpha.

My speculation is that the enemy Jaegers are not human. They are made by the aliens that made the Kaiju. I say this because the swarm of small metallic squid things you see in the trailer. Maybe the aliens learned our technology from the Jaegers we dropped into their world.
 

aBarreras

Member
Not if it ends up being Michael Bay Rim.

i meant, good for the mechverse when thousands of years transcur and the technology doesnt get any better, if that what the autor wants to hype the titular gundams, good for them.

this is pacific rim, whole other rules apply


this fucking "bayformers" shit is getting out of hand tho
 

Jezan

Member
I'm not seeing the Transformers comparisons here. Where are they moving so weightlessly compared to the first? There is even still cracks and rubble lifted up from the ground when they run.
At 1:10 the Kaiju is thrown against a buidling by a whip, after that any scene with Gipsy Avenger (there is one that looks like she is going for a roll to avoid some missiles) and of course at 1:37 the kick.


Also why are their helmets visorless? The cockpit is not debris-proof. Was it so we can see how they know how to act? If that's the case, they need to learn to act.
 

WaterAstro

Member
i meant, good for the mechverse when thousands of years transcur and the technology doesnt get any better, if that what the autor wants to hype the titular gundams, good for them.

this is pacific rim, whole other rules apply


this fucking "bayformers" shit is getting out of hand tho

Yeh, I watched a movie called Pacific Rim, so I want the movie Pacific Rim Uprising to be like Pacific Rim.
 

Platy

Member
I guess the kaijus made some virus to take over some jaegers?

They mentioned in some interviews when the first was still on theaters that the sequel could explore how there are jaeger parts because of the explosion at the end happens to be based on SENDING A JAEGER TO THE KAIJU WORLD

Maybe that is where they are going with this.
 
At 1:10 the Kaiju is thrown against a buidling by a whip, after that any scene with Gipsy Avenger (there is one that looks like she is going for a roll to avoid some missiles) and of course at 1:37 the kick.

These are Mach 6 and Mach 7 Jaegers. Cherno Alpha is a slug compared to Striker Eureka. Hell, Gipsy is a slug compared to Striker.
 
I don't want to be that guy, but something was really off about that trailer. The use of color, the animation, the weird power ranger "everyone charge at the monster" thing. Didn't feel like Pacific Rim 2. I don't know. Also I liked the weird mech designs of the first way better.
 

Jezan

Member
These are Mach 6 and Mach 7 Jaegers. Cherno Alpha is a slug compared to Striker Eureka. Hell, Gipsy is a slug compared to Striker.
Striker still had a lot of windup in its attack, remember the scene where it starts running? Even in the first scene it appears it was "slow", each blow took some time to land and stop momentum before the next one, even when they deployed the missle bay, it took some time for the arms to move around and the chest to open up because the metal parts were heavy.

I'm sure the fans of the mechanical aspect of the first one loved that because they moved like robots, like heavy pieces of metal with lots of gears and motors. These ones could be Mach 99, but they move like a person in a suit, they move like a Megazord or a Transformer, even Samus in Smash looks more mechanical. You could have fast moving Jaegers like Striker but it looked mechanical, and limited by whatever alloy it was made of and by whatever quantity of engines it had for articulations. Here they look more biological, shaking the cam to add weight to each step is not them being heavy. It's how the animate that doesn't look like they are mechanical or affected by gravity (in relation to their size).

Again check the last part of the trailer when they start running, Gipsy looks like she's jumping like Mario instead of running like before.
 

WillyFive

Member
Amazing trailer. Can't wait. Love the return of the theme.

This is the Power Rangers cinematic series we should have gotten.
 

wandering

Banned
Man why they gotta throw Jing Tian into everything

This is not what I meant when I said I wanted more Asian representation
 

Soar

Member
Yeah not feeling this...weight and momentum is missing. I mean if it's own thing I guess it's worth a watch but has a totally different feel from the original.
 
Striker still had a lot of windup in its attack, remember the scene where it starts running? Even in the first scene it appears it was "slow", each blow took some time to land and stop momentum before the next one, even when they deployed the missle bay, it took some time for the arms to move around and the chest to open up because the metal parts were heavy.

I'm sure the fans of the mechanical aspect of the first one loved that because they moved like robots, like heavy pieces of metal with lots of gears and motors. These ones could be Mach 99, but they move like a person in a suit, they move like a Megazord or a Transformer, even Samus in Smash looks more mechanical. You could have fast moving Jaegers like Striker but it looked mechanical, and limited by whatever alloy it was made of and by whatever quantity of engines it had for articulations. Here they look more biological, shaking the cam to add weight to each step is not them being heavy. It's how the animate that doesn't look like they are mechanical or affected by gravity (in relation to their size).

Again check the last part of the trailer when they start running, Gipsy looks like she's jumping like Mario instead of running like before.

I just watched the trailer again and paid attention to the end. Both shots of it running wasn't even a complete step. The motion still feels slow like a huge machine. It never felt like it was jumping.

However, the Jaeger breaking out of the warehouse (or whatever) shot did seem to move too fast. The snow battle also looks too fast. Otherwise, I don't see the Mario jumping.

It's a trailer, everything is cut so quickly. There's also more time to polish the special effects.

This is Striker Eureka from the first movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwRCybe_M_Q
 

Jezan

Member
I just watched the trailer again and paid attention to the end. Both shots of it running wasn't even a complete step. The motion still feels slow like a huge machine. It never felt like it was jumping.

However, the Jaeger breaking out of the warehouse (or whatever) shot did seem to move too fast. The snow battle also looks too fast. Otherwise, I don't see the Mario jumping.

It's a trailer, everything is cut so quickly. There's also more time to polish the special effects.

This is Striker Eureka from the first movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwRCybe_M_Q
The first hit is too fast yes Mach 5, but he had momentum because it was running before that hit, it twists its body a little, when the arm comes down to grab Mutavore, the body now twists to the right and the left arm hits the kaiju, then you can see how it's lingering there for a second as Striker tries to rebalance by moving its feet to a new more stable position, you can't see the feet but the motion of the upper body suggest it's taking two steps or three steps to not fall down. The last hit has the body twists and Striker does a 90° (or more) turn (from facing the camera to side view) now in order to untwist its body he uses that turn momentum to take the arm from the hook all the way to the position to open the missile chest. Again it's fast, but still looks mechanical, just rebalancing the weight of the body to connect the next move.

It's not something you will notice the first time tho, but it moves in the confines of the mechanical body (and the sounds effects of the engines add a lot of that), I'm sure del Toro wanted that scene to play like a boxer fighting, he described Striker as a "dirty boxer or brutal brawler".

There are things that don't make sense in the first movie, like Gipsy being able to move after having it's back destroyed by Otachi or its knees surviving the drop, but Jaegers moving as robots is as hard as you can take sci-fi with Kaijus.

This is exactly the Chrono Trigger to Chrono Cross kind of change, tho we don't know if Uprising will be any good. Both are good, but there is a big change that will turn people away, and some people will love the new one because of the changes.
 
I don't want to be that guy, but something was really off about that trailer. The use of color, the animation, the weird power ranger "everyone charge at the monster" thing. Didn't feel like Pacific Rim 2. I don't know. Also I liked the weird mech designs of the first way better.

It's definitely a step down from the first visually. No sense of scale or weight, and comes off as cheap like Kamen Rider or any other tokusatsu shows made for TV. I'm sure the action will be fun in the end and it's not offensive for me at least, but I definitely think it could have been better.
 

BLAUcopter

Gold Member
Awful music.
The narration would have been okay.. as narration, showing that it was an actual speech being delivered in the film was a bad idea, it was really cheesy.
The first film was a pleasant surprise for me, this one looks.. eh. Does not have the same atmosphere as the first film, this one looks like Transformers.
Imagine how bad the tracks were that didn't make it? Seriously though, trailer music these days is pure garbage.
 

watership

Member
Unless the movie's tone is not remotely like the trailer, this is a big no from me. First half had me hoping, but they lost me big time in the second half.
 

BLAUcopter

Gold Member
Unless the movie's tone is not remotely like the trailer, this is a big no from me. First half had me hoping, but they lost me big time in the second half.
When that Pacific rim theme started to kick in I was like YES! But after that I was sad :(
 

Ultryx

Member
Don't really know what anyone has to complain about except the trailer music. Other than that it looked really cool and I'm interest as a fan of the first.
 

longdi

Banned
Looks terrible, i cant tell if this is Power Ranger 2 or PR2.

Why Del Toro not doing this? He seems interested to make a Kaju Cinematic Universe.

He did a good job capturing the pilot piloting a mecha feel. Something only a real Otaku can make. You feel the un-wielding mass and power whenever a Jaeger fights a Kaju. The arena destruction meant something.

I think the framing here illustrates that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwRCybe_M_Q

PR2 looks like your hollywood SFX template of robots-big-aliens-invasion-city-destruction.
 

big_z

Member
Looks like a marvel movie with robots and no physics. One of my pet peaves about movies going so heavy on cg is how fake everything has become in terms of weight and movement. Takes me out of the film every time.
 
People don't have to like hip hop, though
Of course they don't have to, it's just that on this forum, it's not always about just not liking hip-hop.

As seen in the Assassin's Creed trailer thread, people react viscerally if it's hip-hop they don't like soundtracking a trailer. It always devolves into them explaining that a) they think hip-hop is trash and doesn't deserve a fair shake or b) them irrationally hating the artist. Here, it's more of a).

I will admit that it is unfair of me to have quoted the first two people because I particularly didn't think the 2Pac song was the best fit for the trailer, but that third post is just utterly ridiculous and a case of someone showing their ass.
 

hydruxo

Member
Looks like it could be a fun popcorn flick, but you can just tell that outside of John Boyega, Burn Gorman, and Charlie Day the rest of the actors are going to be hot garbage. Plus Mako is probably going to show up for a grand total of like 2 minutes.
 
Of course they don't have to, it's just that on this forum, it's not always about just not liking hip-hop.

As seen in the Assassin's Creed trailer thread, people react viscerally if it's hip-hop they don't like soundtracking a trailer. It always devolves into them explaining that a) they think hip-hop is trash and doesn't deserve a fair shake or b) them irrationally hating the artist. Here, it's more of a).

I will admit that it is unfair of me to have quoted the first two people because I particularly didn't think the 2Pac song was the best fit for the trailer, but that third post is just utterly ridiculous and a case of someone showing their ass.

The thing that gets me is how dramatic people have to be when they express their dislike of hip hop.
 
Yeah I did not feel this trailer at all, this just doesn't look like it got the kind of stupid goofiness from the first Pacific Rim and went a more generic Kaiju smash.
 
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