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I thought Joi was more than a little indulgent, especially since she's played by a gorgeous woman
Why would a holographic AI girlfriend not be modeled after a gorgeous woman? 🤔
I thought Joi was more than a little indulgent, especially since she's played by a gorgeous woman
Well there's no way to actually know that.
I don't get why people say this shit man. I'm sorry dude, just need some questions clarified about the movie I saw last night. I don't have crazy theories to contribute.
The entire emotional core of the original hinges on this being at least an open question.Deckards not a goddamn fucking replicant, jesus christ
Ridley says he is, so he is.Deckards not a goddamn fucking replicant, jesus christ
No, all nexus models had limited lifespans in BR1. N6 just had very limited spans.
George Lucas said the Jedi get their powers from midichlorians and that shit aint canon eitherRidley says he is, so he is.
"Skinjob" is a derogatory term for replicant.Dumb question, but why do humans call K a skinner? Reference to his job or the fact that he's a replicant?
I thought the emotional core of the original was that it doesn't matter if he's human or Replicant, the line between the two is proven to be nonexistent by the end.The entire emotional core of the original hinges on this being at least an open question.
Skinner and skinjob are discriminatory terms for replicants.Dumb question, but why do humans call K a skinner? Reference to his job or the fact that he's a replicant?
If Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.George Lucas said the Jedi get their powers from midichlorians and that shit aint canon either
"Skinjob" is a derogatory term for replicant.
Skinner and skinjob are discriminatory terms for replicants.
Right, I agree, but that depends on the very possibility that he could be a replicant. Like, you have to set forth "replicant or human??" as a question before Deckard can reject it and just enjoy whatever life he can make with Rachael.I thought the emotional core of the original was that it doesn't matter if he's human or Replicant, the line between the two is proven to be nonexistent by the end.
If Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.
If Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.
None of this was lost on me, I promise you. I just think it's a set of boring cliches this movie didn't need. It is the movie Her, inserted into the Blade Runner universe, which already has lots and lots of interesting material about artifice and exploitation and false beliefs and what's truly human without adding AI holograms to the mix. It's an extra piece of weight thrown on top of a movie that's already overlong and creaking.
You just described a whole bunch of stuff we learned and intuited without needing Joi in the movie. Delete her, expand the role of the pleasure model to be K's on-off replicant friend with benefits, cover the same Philosophy 101 terrain ("robots? humans? sex?? love? what is ' ' ' real ' ' ' when you think about it?") in less time, reduce the character list and running time, lose nothing except Ana de Armas's smile. Joi is a redundancy.
But the movie already has a deeper, richer character we spend more time with who extensively digs into question about carrying out programming and orders versus making radical choices to love and care. His name is K.
She is a body in a fridge that no one talks about after she dies, not once, and whom only one person even thinks about. Everything her character does for the plot could be done by the Hannah lookalike. She is more or less a figment of K's imagination, a way of dramatizing some stuff he thinks about and go through. There are other, subtler, less staid ways of doing that, and "I have to avenge my slain love interest; she was the only one who understood me!" is kind of played out.
The entire emotional core of the original hinges on this being at least an open question.
Skin job or skinner is a slur against replicants.Dumb question, but why do humans call K a skinner? Reference to his job or the fact that he's a replicant?
If Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.
You just described a whole bunch of stuff we learned and intuited without needing Joi in the movie. Delete her, expand the role of the pleasure model to be K's on-off replicant friend with benefits, cover the same Philosophy 101 terrain ("robots? humans? sex?? love? what is ' ' ' real ' ' ' when you think about it?") in less time, reduce the character list and emotional redundancies, lose nothing except Ana de Armas's smile. Joi is extraneous.
On a tone level Joi also gives Gosling more material to work with and prevents K from becoming too one-note. K has a different side to him when interacting with Joi and that serves as a way to breakup K being dour and serious all the time. K's character is not so much about the separation between programming and choice, the movie assumes K is making all his decisions of his own will.But the movie already has a deeper, richer character we spend more time with who extensively digs into question about carrying out programming and orders versus making radical choices to love and care. His name is K.
Does there need to be a fireside chat between multiple characters about her after she's dead? The only person that cared about her was K, which again ties that aspect of her being the one thing he could truly call his own (or that he believed he could call his own). The prostitute serves as a foil to Joi and honestly her role is infinitely more expendable and useless.She is a body in a fridge that no one talks about after she dies, not once, and whom only one person even thinks about. Everything her character does for the plot could be done by the Hannah lookalike. She is more or less a figment of K's imagination, a way of dramatizing some stuff he thinks about and go through. There are other, subtler, less staid ways of doing that, and "I have to avenge my slain love interest; she was the only one who understood me!" is kind of played out.
George Lucas said the Jedi get their powers from midichlorians and that shit aint canon either
Luv's goons were all wearing breathing apparatus so the radiation levels can't have been that insignificant.If bees can live there, it means radiation is low enough to be insignificant.
People have been living in Chernobyl's Exclusion Zone for decades. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt and are major cities todayIf Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.
That's the beauty of a great film peeps, you can interpret it how you like (within reason) and it's still just as effective.Skinner and skinjob are discriminatory terms for replicants.
I was very, very worried about him being in this film, but I think he did a perfectly okay job. He seemed far more invested in reprising this role than, say, Han Solo.I just can't stand him as an actor right now and I doubt he was ever any good.
Luv's goons were all wearing breathing apparatus so the radiation levels can't have been that insignificant.
Luv's goons were all wearing breathing apparatus so the radiation levels can't have been that insignificant.
Good points have been made about the bees though.
K is an 8, Deckard a 7. Just like how he was able to overcome Bautista who was also a 7. Newer models stronger than the older gen.How can K run through walls but Deckard can't?
If he's human, then the emotional core is him realizing that human or replicant doesn't matter, character development from him earlier seeing replicants as just tools like his toaster. He doesn't need to be a replicant for that theme to workRight, I agree, but that depends on the very possibility that he could be a replicant. Like, you have to set forth "replicant or human??" as a question before Deckard can reject it and just enjoy whatever life he can make with Rachael.
If Deckard was human, how could he survive living in a nuked Las Vegas for 20 years? The fallout would have killed him.
Dumb question, but why do humans call K a skinner? Reference to his job or the fact that he's a replicant?
If bees can live there, it means radiation is low enough to be insignificant.
Broken Arrow taught me that.
why he get old if he's a replicant ��
K is an 8, Deckard a 7. Just like how he was able to overcome Bautista who was also a 7. Newer models stronger than the older gen.
How can K run through walls but Deckard can't?
Oh so 8s come with the runs thru walls ability?
Replicants are biological.why he get old if hes a replicant 🤔
Skin job.
Little sci-fi nod to BSG / Edward James Olmos I'd say.
Replicants are biological.
I mean, if you didn't think you were a replicant, you wouldn't run full speed headfirst into a wall. Not something you'd want to test. And even if he were a replicant, we don't know if he'd have superhuman powers. If Wallace was right and he was built for breeding, he might not have been given strength.
I mean, if you didn't think you were a replicant, you wouldn't run full speed headfirst into a wall. Not something you'd want to test. And even if he were a replicant, we don't know if he'd have superhuman powers. If Wallace was right and he was built for breeding, he might not have been given strength.
yeah I know but I didnt think they physically aged
I wasnt really sure how it worked exactly
Why could Rachael conceive a child if she's a replicant?why he get old if he's a replicant ��
K is willing to overlook those things because he's so desperate to be real. If you look at even the earlier parts of the film there's no way he was human. He went toe to toe with a military Replicant in the first scene and later broke someone's back like it was nothing. K was lying to himself for most of the movie because he was at wit's end.
I don't think he would be commissioned as a blade runner if he was just designed for breeding. Such a dumb retcon if it were true. Glad it was just the inane ramblings of a madman
Roy Batty destroys walls and he's a 6. Also, Freya says that Sapper let himself be killed.K is an 8, Deckard a 7. Just like how he was able to overcome Bautista who was also a 7. Newer models stronger than the older gen.