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Super Mario Odyssey - Review Thread

BOTW was a good game, but it sure did not deserve that 97. The game had way too many flaws especially in the story and progression department.

Eitherway, I am happy BOTW and Mario did get such high scores, Nintendo is really kicking asses this year.
 

takriel

Member
BOTW was a good game, but it sure did not deserve that 97. The game had way too many flaws especially in the story and progression department.

Eitherway, I am happy BOTW and Mario did get such high scores, Nintendo is really kicking asses this year.
Contradicting yourself there, buddy.
 
Just in time after finishing the evil within 2.(still need to go and do new game+ though) my GameStop releases at 9pm so I'll have a few hrs to play tonight
 

Astral Dog

Member
BOTW was a good game, but it sure did not deserve that 97. The game had way too many flaws especially in the story and progression department.

Eitherway, I am happy BOTW and Mario did get such high scores, Nintendo is really kicking asses this year.
It did have flaws but you don't start from 10 when reviewing a game, you start from Cero

Also you could say the same about Mario, flaws in the "story department"

The most valid critics are the VA and the ending.
 

guyssorry

Member
BOTW was a good game, but it sure did not deserve that 97. The game had way too many flaws especially in the story and progression department.

Eitherway, I am happy BOTW and Mario did get such high scores, Nintendo is really kicking asses this year.

Most video games have flaws in the story department (aka they are terrible). The game is a joy to play, which is why it is so revered.
 

AdanVC

Member
Expected scores. New 3D Mario games automatically means absolute quality/awesomeness. I'm just sad because the hype for this game on GAF has watered down due to the last week events on the forum and a big chunk of the Nintendo-GAF community has gone but oh well. Glad to continue seein some familiar faces on the community still kickin and hyped for the game here. Nintendo continues kicking asses so bad it's amazing how the turnaraound has been since the Wii U just a year ago.
 

Astral Dog

Member
Expected scores. New 3D Mario games automatically means absolute quality/awesomeness. I'm just sad because the hype for this game on GAF has watered down due to the last week events on the forum and a big chunk of the Nintendo-GAF community has gone but oh well. Glad to continue seein some familiar faces on the community still kickin and hyped for the game here. Nintendo continues kicking asses so bad it's amazing how the turnaraound has been since the Wii U just a year ago.
Say what you want about Wii U, but the quality was still high in the games and BoTW is basically a U game

So im not surprised they improved ;)
 
Most video games have flaws in the story department (aka they are terrible). The game is a joy to play, which is why it is so revered.

Well, that is true. But for a game to score 97 I would expect story and gameplay to be perfect. The thing is, for some games like Mario where the storyline is just not important, the story does not influence the review score at all, but for some other games like Witcher 3 the story has a high influence on the review score.

Personally, I would put Zelda games to the likes of Witcher 3, aka story important game, so the score of 97 from Zelda is not deserved in my opinion. But I can see people are putting Zelda in the same category as Mario. The gameplay is really a 97 in Zelda. It's complicated.
 

slorelli

Neo Member
Well, that is true. But for a game to score 97 I would expect story and gameplay to be perfect. The thing is, for some games like Mario where the storyline is just not important, the story does not influence the review score at all, but for some other games like Witcher 3 the story has a high influence on the review score.

Personally, I would put Zelda games to the likes of Witcher 3, aka story important game, so the score of 97 from Zelda is not deserved in my opinion. But I can see people are putting Zelda in the same category as Mario. The gameplay is really a 97 in Zelda. It's complicated.

Yea, it really is a sticky situation. While it is true that Mario does not have much of or a good story, games like Zelda and the Witcher 3 don't have good platforming. If we judge Mario on story. we must also judge those games on platforming.
 

Astral Dog

Member
Well, that is true. But for a game to score 97 I would expect story and gameplay to be perfect. The thing is, for some games like Mario where the storyline is just not important, the story does not influence the review score at all, but for some other games like Witcher 3 the story has a high influence on the review score.

Personally, I would put Zelda games to the likes of Witcher 3, aka story important game, so the score of 97 from Zelda is not deserved in my opinion. But I can see people are putting Zelda in the same category as Mario. The gameplay is really a 97 in Zelda. It's complicated.
Zelda is rarely a plot heavy game though.in fact voiced cutscenes are a first on this game, they put a lot of effort in the NPCs and towns though.
 

Maitiú

Member
I don't think Zelda and The Witcher are on the same plane... No one plays Zelda for the story. They play for the adventure, the nintendo-charm-filled world design and solid and/or innovative gameplay mechanics. The Witcher III is renowned for it's stories, dialogue, and characters, while its gameplay mechanics and charm are not a drawing point.
 
Congrats to Nintendo and players. Seems to be an awesome game. Too bad i dont enjoy Mario games very much :(

Might still be worth a look, this one seems to be going back to the SM64 roots with a focus on open world puzzle solving rather than platforming, which is what most past games have focussed on.

Also throwing in my two cents as someone who loved TW3. The gameplay was nowhere near on level with BotW imo, and I found myself getting annoyed with the dry combat by the end of the story. I would give TW3 a 9 and BotW a 10 personally.
 

Osukaa

Member
Nice, was just about to make this thread since all we had was that troll thread.

Looking great so far. My prediction going in was 97 metacritic. Aggressive, but based on early returns it can be done.

Makes it so hard to resist getting a Switch. But I can't do it for one game, and I still have UC:LL, Horizon, and South Park to finish. Plus Wolfenstein to get through. And Battlefront 2 in a few weeks. I don't have a shortage of things to play.

Trust me even if you had a switch you'd have a hard time making time for all those games. I haven't beat Zelda yet and Ive had the game for months. Not that its a bad game but there are so many games to play on the other systems as well. I wanna get Mario asap but I know if I do I wont touch it for months so ill probably just wait for maybe the end of the year.

Also I knew Mario was going to be good but damn.. those reviews are really great. Hold tight Mario ill get to you soon lol.
 

AdanVC

Member
Say what you want about Wii U, but the quality was still high in the games and BoTW is basically a U game

So im not surprised they improved ;)

Absolutely. Guess I worded badly. Wii U 1st party games are all amazing. I was referring to the actual success turnaround from Wii U to Switch. It honestly feels like the Wii days when Mario Galaxy came out :D
 
Zelda is rarely a plot heavy game though.in fact voiced cutscenes are a first on this game, they put a lot of effort in the NPCs and towns though.

I can see where you are coming from, but Zelda does a different kind of story than Witcher or other triple a games, and I like that actually better. You see, a story can be simple and straightforward and also be very good it doesn't have to be complex one. For me Zelda delivers a simple but very engaging and well written storyline. When it comes to BOTW, the story did a a huge backseat, because practically there was no structure at all like before and you could go straight to the boss without any plot twists or anything else happening.
But I guess that's the point of the game though.
 
Looks great but I really wish it was more difficult. Galaxy had some really hard levels so I hope it's more like that than 3D Land (didn't play 3D World) where you end up with 70 lives and shit.
 
Those are some crazy good scores, Breath of the Wild level. Nintendo really is having an amazing year and Odyssey might be a serious contender for the best Mario. Breath of the Wild is already my new favorite Zelda and would be crazy to have a new favorite Zelda and Mario game the same year.
 
Looks great but I really wish it was more difficult. Galaxy had some really hard levels so I hope it's more like that than 3D Land (didn't play 3D World) where you end up with 70 lives and shit.

That's my only concern for the game at the moment and Galaxy is my favorite Mario so we see how Odyssey holds up with the easier difficulty.
 
My review on my site Tired Old Hack:

https://tiredoldhack.com/2017/10/26/super-mario-odyssey-switch-review/

(credentials for those who don't know me: games journalist for 11 years, worked at UK Official Nintendo Magazine for six years, site is Metacritic approved)

I didn't know you, but I seriously enjoyed your review. Didn't read all to go in as blank as possible, but just wanted to reply saying: great review and I am definitely going to Check your site for more.
Thank you.
 

tzare

Member
Might still be worth a look, this one seems to be going back to the SM64 roots with a focus on open world puzzle solving rather than platforming, which is what most past games have focussed on.

Also throwing in my two cents as someone who loved TW3. The gameplay was nowhere near on level with BotW imo, and I found myself getting annoyed with the dry combat by the end of the story. I would give TW3 a 9 and BotW a 10 personally.
My problem, if that is a problem at all, is that i usually only enjoy story driven games, that is why Nintendo usually doesn't fit me very much. I've tried but i get bored soon despite enjoying their appealing visual style and design... It also does not help that their games usually don't drop price as others so hard to jump in.
Maybe this Black Friday i can hop in and buy a switch if there's an offer and have the chance to try this one
 
are you saying it's repetitive and not varied enough moons?



personally, im gonna try to control my optimism and hype right now. i didn't love the reviews for botw and feel like nintendo gets a pass in some regards. gonna wait to see more impressions

Hm, well, I wouldn't say repetitive is the right word. Im just saying when you're completing each level with all Power Moons you start to notice patterns, like each world has the same stuff to do - for instance, each world has a race against Koopas, and each world has a shop where you can buy a Power Moon, and each world has certain missions that you have to clear without Cappy. Its not repetitive per se thanks to the challenge often being different (because different worlds, different challenges), but there's a certain pattern you start to notice after 10-15 hours, thats all. Its just a very smal slight, not really a big problem.
 
Also throwing in my two cents as someone who loved TW3. The gameplay was nowhere near on level with BotW imo, and I found myself getting annoyed with the dry combat by the end of the story. I would give TW3 a 9 and BotW a 10 personally.

I agree with everything you said but I'd also rank TW3 10/10 despite the flaws (BotW has some minor flaws as well) I just thought the story and the characters were strong enough to outweight the gameplay flaws.

Breath of the Wild is my favorite game of the century and The Witcher 3 my sixth favorite.
 

Nyx

Member
Loved Galaxy, but did not like 64 and Sunshine, so it's a bit of a gamble for me. Great scores though.
 
Genuinely excited to be experiencing an Earth-shattering release like Odyssey outside of my usual perspective of game review evaluation. Thank goodness for my vacation that I actually wound up not reviewing this one!
 
M

Macapala

Unconfirmed Member
Such lovely review scores. Gonna pick this game up after work today, can't wait!
 

addyb

Member
Game is fantastic. Feels like a mash up of 64, galaxy and some Banjo kazooie thrown in. Near the end now (I think) I can't wait to see what happens at end game and to also go back and mop up the moon's I've missed.
 

moomoo14

Member
I anxiously await Best Buy shipping this over to me. The wait is excruciating! I want it now!

The difficulty thing doesn't bother me, as I've never found 3D Mario particularly challenging, especially the Galaxy games, which are my favorites.
 

Elixist

Member
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1 more day! ive only seen a lil bit of footage, goin in mostly fresh. HYPED
 

MaulerX

Member
I've used my Switch pretty much exclusively in portable mode. This will be the first time I'll use it mostly on the big screen as my wife and kids will no doubt be playing this having fun and passing the the controller around as they take turns playing. Awesome.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
BOTW was a good game, but it sure did not deserve that 97. The game had way too many flaws especially in the story and progression department.

Eitherway, I am happy BOTW and Mario did get such high scores, Nintendo is really kicking asses this year.
I said many times that 10/10 doesn't mean it flawless game. It just means that the reviewer enjoy the game enough that he/she willing give that score.

This why you either read or watch the actual reviews instead just looking at the score. Even though the reviewer might give the perfect score, there might be flaw in the game that is deal breaker for you.
 
I fucked up by pre-ordering at Best Buy, since I can't pick my copy up until 10AM. I might just grab it digitally, despite my overwhelming preference for physical games, because I cannot contain my excitement
 

Spacejaws

Member
Excellent this is the kinda game I’ve been waiting for. I’ve held off up until this point waiting for the library to pick up and even now there’s probably only about 3 games I really want but sounds like Nintendo is hitting it out of the park in quality.

I’ll need to read some of the reviews. I actually didn’t find Galaxy amazing(still really enioyed it) and was more tilted toward 64/Sunshine. I’d be interested to know which of them the game design resembles most. Either way either by the end of the year or early next year I’ll jump in the bandwagon.
 
Might still be worth a look, this one seems to be going back to the SM64 roots with a focus on open world puzzle solving rather than platforming, which is what most past games have focussed on.

Also throwing in my two cents as someone who loved TW3. The gameplay was nowhere near on level with BotW imo, and I found myself getting annoyed with the dry combat by the end of the story. I would give TW3 a 9 and BotW a 10 personally.

Just throwing my two cents in. I remember my girlfriend yesterday. Playing and showing me Witcher 3. She was walking along a liner path. I asked her if you could climb the walls to get somewhere faster. She said no, game does look beautiful though. Those trees man..
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
I really cant wait to play this game.
I avoided all gameplay and screenshots.
Going in blind just like with zelda.
 

Krakatoa

Member
Just pre loaded Mario. Now counting down until its launched in the US. My guess it will be midnight eastern. West coast GAF maybe playing at nine.
 
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