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I'm acting like Bloodborne is one of the best received exclusives this gen, which it is. Microsoft has not had one as well received on XB1.. to date?
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I'm acting like Bloodborne is one of the best received exclusives this gen, which it is. Microsoft has not had one as well received on XB1.. to date?
This thread is hilarious .. no great exclusives?
Forza 7> gt sport
Forza horizon 3 .. best car game ever
Quantum break awesome story and game
Artistic talent try ori and cuphead?
This is a waste of time, im out
That's nice, and entirely irrelevant.
I am NOT saying that the games you listed are not compelling (that's just a matter of personal opinion), but I AM saying that if exclusives present and future are a thing, then your list it is not a compelling list of reasons to own the system when compared to other players on the market who have clearly focused far more on building up and diversifying a first party environment. As a list to support the idea that MS gives a damn about exclusive games, it's just not a good list which in my own opinion demonstrates why the system itself comes up short.
I really can't explain this any simpler, so either you get it or you don't. If your next response is going to be something along the lines of "I enjoy games no matter the platform" then don't bother. I do too, but it's entirely besides the point.
About that... one of the things you get when you actually foster strong internal development is a strong artistic stable and the means of translating this into design. This is one of the things that allows a game like BOTW to visually stand head to head (or well above) the best that you can see on machines with FAR more power. Artistry.
BOTW could of course look even better on the more powerful X1X, but no such game will exist on the system because there is no such talent. The same really goes for Uncharted or God of War, but with BOTW being on the "lesser" system I thought it made the best example.
So in short, you don't get it. Good job there.
So in short, you don't get it. Good job there. You said it was a compelling and diverse portfolio, I argued that it's only true if the system exists in a vacuum. Your counter-argument is that you like games. If you consider something this basic to be mental gymnastics then all hope is lost.
And no, the bolded really is not just a matter of personal opinion. Or is your next argument going to be that Phil said that this time they really, really are focusing on exclusives, in spite of all historical evidence to the contrary?
This thread is hilarious .. no great exclusives?
Forza 7> gt sport
Forza horizon 3 .. best car game ever
Quantum break awesome story and game
Artistic talent try ori and cuphead?
This is a waste of time, im out
Lemme guess... your next claim will be Infamous. Then The Order. And then you'll get desperate and throw Knack in there before instantly regretting it.
"AAA"
There it is again...PC's are now consoles whenever it's convenient. Using MS's "play anywhere" initiative as a negative against Xbox. Dismissing great exclusives because you have a PC and are a PC gamer.
Gears 4, Ori, Forza Horizon 3, Cuphead, Recore and Quantum Break being on PC is a positive thing...right?
If MS suddenly pulled the plug on it and had all of it's exclusive titles back, would that not be terrible for you as a gamer? Not to mention it would look terrible and give Engadget some real clickbait fuel.
Personally, I hate the "Play Anywhere" thing for this reason. I love it for gamers, but it has become part of the "Xbox has no exclusive games" mantra.
This thread is hilarious .. no great exclusives?
Forza 7> gt sport
Forza horizon 3 .. best car game ever
Quantum break awesome story and game
Artistic talent try ori and cuphead?
This is a waste of time, im out
I think people are just tired of this toxicity.
Toxic article, toxic comments.
Exclusive? It was relased on PC.Of all the games you listed, only Forza 7 is an exclusive...
Exclusive? It was relased on PC.
Last ex were Sunset and before that, Ryse and Rare Replay.
Really? Are you guys that stupid?Whoops, you're right... so he named zero exclusives lmfao
Really? Are you guys that stupid?
You would think that by releasing their exclusives on PC as well people would be happy for the choice. Especially since you normally get both versions at no additional cost (play anywhere), but it seems like people only hate MS more for releasing their exclusives to PC as well as Xbox. They really can't win.
I never said that BC was not important, I said it's not going to move consoles. The only reason people will play and replay older games on a brand new system is because there are not enough exclsuives that's popping their eye sockets or capturing their attention. They just want to see the improvements to the older titles for no more than a few minutes, it's a feature afterall, so you test it. In the grand scheme of things, no matter how you swing it, BC matters very little to gamers if you go by actual (hours of play) stats. People make lots of noise for it, but they really don't go back to play those old games much, unless they're remastered and play or look much much better than how they remembered it years ago. I'm talking 30fps with dips in the original title to locked 30/60fps with a total remake to the graphics...BC is definitely important. PC gamers can go back and play any old game they so desire.
No, that's like saying SOTC on PS2 rendered at 4k, looks better than the remaster at 1440p/30 or 1080p 60fps...That's not even logical.And by they way, Ninja Gaiden renders in 4k on Xbox One X, something even the PS3 version wouldn't be able to do and the extra bells and whistles it has doesn't make it look better than the 4k version I am playing right now!
Go back and read what I asked. I asked whether these same posters who say that XBONEX is better for multiplats (which it is), did the same thing or hailed the same sentiment when PS4 had the better multiplats the last 4 years?Weren't you there during the launch of this gen?
Yes, PS4 was declared the best system day One because of the better graphics.
PS4 sales stomper all over the One right out of the gates before. There were any exclusives, and all threads were about the better graphics PS4 had compared to the One.
Yes, I'm that guy championing CB. I mean why should I settle for 1440p on hardware that could do 2160CB and look close to 4k native? If the hardware was built for CB, then lets do CB, because it looks pristine on a 4k screen......Aren't you always championing that reconstruction techniques are not correctly referred to by their base resolutions before the frame buffer on PS4Pro? Quantum Break final frame buffer output is 1080p. Which is it going to be? Can't have it both ways, buddy. From now on, when discussing checkerboard game output, don't forget that its half the resolution just like you referred to with an xbox game.
No it just makes you look narrow minded and snooty. For whatever reason you've convinced yourself that if a game is also playable on PC then everyone will flock to play it on PC instead, which just isn't true. I have a PC and have no interest in playing console games on it. And not everyone has a PC. So it's silly to ignore console exclusivity or to write it off. Games are still console exclusive, which means they're still exclusive. Only pc snobs and elitist bleeps say otherwise. In reality, ps4 owners and people who would never buy an xbox in the first place are the ones most likely to buy xbox games for pc. For people who still enjoy the xbox experience, a console is still preferable.Stupid for what? Knowing the difference between an exclusive game and a not so exclusive game?
I can only speak for myself, but I don't really see people hating microsoft for releasing their games on both platforms. But it just solidifies that you do not need an xbox if you have a PC as you can already play those games and more. Why have both when you can't play any exclusives on Xbox? That'd be like buying a PS4 pro AND a PS4 slim... completely pointless...
Don't confuse valid constructive criticism for hatred...
No it just makes you look narrow minded and snooty. For whatever reason you've convinced yourself that if a game is also playable on PC then everyone will flock to play it on PC instead, which just isn't true.
Games are still console exclusive, which means they're still exclusive. Only pc snobs and elitist bleeps say otherwise.
You have so many directories it crashes groove? Did you pay for all that music? Maybe you could try a streaming service and pay the artists who made all that music. ( they dontt get much but at least its something!)
I use spotify now and used to use Groove, and Airplay worked fine.
Xbox has bittorent, kodi, podcasts,upnp, radio players custom stream applications .. its no contest, xbox has way better and more diverse apps than playstation.
I notice noone argued with any single point i made about being the best box with the best online, game subscriptions, graphics etc etc ..
Both Infamous and The Order are AAA titles... Knack I may call an A or AA at best.
Infamous was a quality game too... but "AAA" is not about quality... it is more about production levels and budget.
AAA games are not always "great" or even "good" games. Many AAA releases end up being garbage.
Best racer (Forza), best competitive arena fps (Halo), best 3rd person shooter (Gears), best 2D platformers (Cuphead and Ori), fighter (Killer Instinct), 3rd person adventure (ReCore), 3rd person story (Quantum Break), 3D platformer (Lucky), best RTS (Halo Wars), biggest game in the world (PubG), and by far the best co-operative games coming up (Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay).You said it was a compelling and diverse portfolio
And this makes my point. Sony's "AAA" exclusives it's first three years were Killzone, Infamous, and The Order.
ouch.
While Xbox came roaring out the gates with Titanfall, Halo 5, Gears 4, the Forzas, Tomb Raider, etc. Honestly, before the last spring Playstation's lineup was meh and Sony admitted as such.
And this makes my point. Sony's "AAA" exclusives it's first three years were Killzone, Infamous, and The Order.
ouch.
While Xbox came roaring out the gates with Titanfall, Halo 5, Gears 4, the Forzas, Tomb Raider, etc.Honestly, before the last spring Playstation's lineup was meh and Sony admitted as such
There are more than that, well done for picking three only though.
Yeah he forgot Knack.
What the hell are you on about? Xbox not having exclusives is only a bad thing for xbox. I would never argue that those games being on PC is a bad thing for me or anyone else, it's only bad for the xbox brand...
How does this logic elude so many? It's very simple. Xbox plays all the same games my PC can, with very few exclusives. That gives me very few reasons to actually own an xbox. That's it. Simple. Period. You don't have to perform mental gymnastics to find a reason to be upset by this simple fact...
Of all the games you listed, only Forza 7 is an exclusive...
Whoops, you're right... so he named zero exclusives lmfao
Stupid for what? Knowing the difference between an exclusive game and a not so exclusive game?
I can only speak for myself, but I don't really see people hating microsoft for releasing their games on both platforms. But it just solidifies that you do not need an xbox if you have a PC as you can already play those games and more. Why have both when you can't play any exclusives on Xbox? That'd be like buying a PS4 pro AND a PS4 slim... completely pointless...
Don't confuse valid constructive criticism for hatred...
I never said anything of the sort. I said that I personally have no reason to buy an Xbone, as well as many other PC gamers, which is true. I do have reasons to buy PS4 and Switch, as they are loaded with games I can't play on my PC. Pretty simple logic, really...
No, just no... You don't need to be a snob or a "bleep" to understand what the term exclusive actually means. The term "console exclusive" is really cringe worthy to begin with. You might as well say onion rings are a burger king fast food exclusive because mcdonalds doesn't have them even though every diner in america does...
And the rest.....
Best racer (Forza), best competitive arena fps (Halo), best 3rd person shooter (Gears), best 2D platformers (Cuphead and Ori), fighter (Killer Instinct), 3rd person adventure (ReCore), 3rd person story (Quantum Break), 3D platformer (Lucky), best RTS (Halo Wars), biggest game in the world (PubG), and by far the best co-operative games coming up (Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay).
Seems like they got all their bases covered.
"Exclusive" has more gray area than any other game topic when it comes to PC vs. Console. "Play Anywhere" has twisted and blurred the lines between PC and Console for exclusives. Simple. No mental gymnastics either.
lol, citation needed. Also you have a very selective memory, or is it cherry picking?
There is no grey area. Either a game can only be exclusively played on a specific platform, or it can be played on multiple platforms(what we call multiplats). "Play Anywhere" hasn't twisted anything, it just means all those games are multiplats. You can play them on both PC and Xbox. Nothing grey about any of this...
Gray or Grey? I never understood why this occurred...
Third party vs whole exclusive lineup is a different story... but I too agree PS4 was weak with exclusives its first few years...
Xbox is the opposite, having a decent amount of exclusives at first, and having absolutely none now...
You would think that by releasing their exclusives on PC as well people would be happy for the choice. Especially since you normally get both versions at no additional cost (play anywhere), but it seems like people only hate MS more for releasing their exclusives to PC as well as Xbox. They really can't win.
To be honest I think most of this arguing is done by a vocal minority and the silent majority of console owners are just happy to play games on a good system and don't care if its an "exclusive" or not. Which is why Microsoft continue to make their "exclusives" available on both Windows and Xbox.
Regardless of how you feel about the results, you are being hypocritical. According to your past posts on this subject, QB would be 1080p due to the tech behind the game. But yet you refer to QB as "720p". If that is the opinion you are sticking with, it now negates all your past posts on the subject, as it seems you now see these kinds of techniques as being half the resolution it outputs from the frame buffer.Yes, I'm that guy championing CB. I mean why should I settle for 1440p on hardware that could do 2160CB and look close to 4k native? If the hardware was built for CB, then lets do CB, because it looks pristine on a 4k screen......
On the flip, what you cannot do is compare Remedy's reprojection to CB, it's not even close. You go back and play QB on a 1080p screen and come back here and tell me it looks anything as crisp or close to native 1080p games on your XBOX-ONE-S?
Now compare a proper 4k CB vs native 4K, like what we saw in Infinite Warfare or Horizon and tell me if Quantum Break is anywhere close in delivering that sharpness, those details and said results?
Stupid for what? Knowing the difference between an exclusive game and a not so exclusive game?
I can only speak for myself, but I don't really see people hating microsoft for releasing their games on both platforms. But it just solidifies that you do not need an xbox if you have a PC as you can already play those games and more. Why have both when you can't play any exclusives on Xbox? That'd be like buying a PS4 pro AND a PS4 slim... completely pointless...
Don't confuse valid constructive criticism for hatred...
These threads would be a lot more productive if we had just those who want more from Microsoft.
I absolutely want more from Microsoft and especially Xbox, that's actually my whole point lol
I absolutely want more from Microsoft and especially Xbox, that's actually my whole point lol
Best racer (Forza), best competitive arena fps (Halo), best 3rd person shooter (Gears), best 2D platformers (Cuphead and Ori), fighter (Killer Instinct), 3rd person adventure (ReCore), 3rd person story (Quantum Break), 3D platformer (Lucky), best RTS (Halo Wars), biggest game in the world (PubG), and by far the best co-operative games coming up (Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay).
Seems like they got all their bases covered.
hiphopcr said:Best racer (Forza), best competitive arena fps (Halo), best 3rd person shooter (Gears), best 2D platformers (Cuphead and Ori), fighter (Killer Instinct), 3rd person adventure (ReCore), 3rd person story (Quantum Break), 3D platformer (Lucky), best RTS (Halo Wars), biggest game in the world (PubG), and by far the best co-operative games coming up (Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay).
What the article means about compelling is attracting people to buy an Xbox One console or attract a huge audience.
It seems like you're taking this clickbait, populist article as gospel and ignoring the facts dancing right in front of your face.
Spencer has gone on the record saying that third-party exclusives like 2015's Rise of the Tomb Raider aren't viable for any games platform in the long run. But two years later, that's basically what Microsoft has. The company spent a year and a half trying to convince people they needed an Xbox One X with system specs alone. In the face of Nintendo's runaway success with the Switch and Sony's burgeoning lineup of diverse games you can't play anywhere else, 2018 has to be the year Microsoft starts convincing people there's a reason to buy any Xbox -- not just the most powerful one ever.
Riiiight, like they've released no games in the past 18 months. And what was Sony's fall lineup again?"The company spent a year and a half trying to convince people they needed an Xbox One X with system specs alone."
But I can play these and I don't have to turn my Xbox on. Quantum break was just ok IMO. Naming two Forza games kind of feeds the trolls.This thread is hilarious .. no great exclusives?
Forza 7> gt sport
Forza horizon 3 .. best car game ever
Quantum break awesome story and game
Artistic talent try ori and cuphead?
This is a waste of time, im out
Stupid for what? Knowing the difference between an exclusive game and a not so exclusive game?
I can only speak for myself, but I don't really see people hating microsoft for releasing their games on both platforms. But it just solidifies that you do not need an xbox if you have a PC as you can already play those games and more. Why have both when you can't play any exclusives on Xbox? That'd be like buying a PS4 pro AND a PS4 slim... completely pointless...
Don't confuse valid constructive criticism for hatred...
Riiiight, like they've released no games in the past 18 months. And what was Sony's fall lineup again?
Ummm... the article you quoted? Don't make me post the Birtney gif again.Who says they released no games within the past 18 months?