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Is Switch gaining unstoppable momentum?
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mcjmetroid
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They still haven't been able to top the first year with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Breath of the Wild. Odyssey and splatoon 2 and even Xenblade 2 if you're into that kinda thing.
ThatStupidLion
Member
since Golf Story for me
LucidFeuer
Banned
That's the thing, Pokemon SS which is supposedly a new sequel for the first time on a HOME console, looks crappier than SM on emulator and than Let's Go!, it looks barely updated or different from SM, and this is why most people I know don't plan on getting it or even were more appealed by Let's Go!
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Maybe not for you, I mean if that’s the logic here then Xbox One is suffering from software drought since launch because there is zero game on that system is “must have” for me.
Geki-D
Banned
Wait, are you saying that within the last 6 years there haven't been any multiplat games you've thought were "must have"? Because that's a big difference here; Xbox actually gets multiplat games. The Switch gets a very limited selection of them.
In terms of exclusives, sure. But one doesn't stop the other, they're both suffering from droughts in that regard.
Personally there are games I want on Switch, but then I count them up, go to a retail site, and look at what other games there are and I just can't justify the purchase for about 4 games with barely anything else on the horizon.
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Danjin44
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I already have my PS4 for multiplat games I bought Switch for its first and third party exclusives and so far I’m happy what I’m getting especially this year we are getting Astral Chain, Daemon X Machina, Fire Emblem Three Houses and Link’s Awakening Remake. Xbox in other hand getting NOTHING I want but my point is this has more to do with my taste in games rather than Xbox One lacking games.
MagnesG
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Why did you compare it to SM on emulator? Like I said did you guys bought those games on 3ds? I for one am not seeing SS as crappy and uninspired, and even more hype than before. Had bought most of the previous iteration or remakes on 3ds, and will continue to do so for SS (I’m skipping let’s go). So yeah, not agreeing with you on that, I will say it is the new age for pokemon.
LucidFeuer
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Yes of course you will...I'm talking about the majority of people, not fanboys/girls.
Jubenhimer
Member
That's not really a software drought. The Switch still gets plenty of good games each month. A drought would be like the Wii U days where there was literally NOTHING worth playing for months.
MagnesG
Banned
What is want to say is that those 16 million people still bought the game on 3ds. So I will assume what you’re saying a majority is the whole gaming community? I guess I can be counted as fanboys if that’s what your narrative is.
Switch’s software momentum are not slowing anytime soon, different from hardware sales. Attach rate is ridiculous, and at no point your arbitrary evidence will support your looming prophecy.
pramod
Banned
Did you get Cuphead?
LucidFeuer
Banned
Indeed, and like any fanboy you will wait until the obvious and predictable result comes out.
MagnesG
Banned
What does this mean? Assuming you're not talking from your ass. Also, you may want to call me a fanboy but that doesn't mean I want to associate myself as such. Not cool being triggered and feeling entitled just by some reply post.
I guess you never will answer my questions aren't you? Suit yourself then.
EDMIX
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"Remote play is limited because it requires you to have 2 consoles plus a stable internet connection. It's a nice feature, but it's not as simple to use as the native hardware of platforms like the Switch. " No one is debating if it is, simply that if someone wanted portability THAT BADLY, they have options. Those that like portable have already established that they do.
Switch or PS Vita etc isn't really changing that as neither are the first portables ever created.
"The difference is that portable versions of console games in the past were more often than not, custom built versions that barely resembled their big screen counterparts" Ok and Doom and many of those ports are running at lower frames, resolution and missing features. ie "barely resembled their big screen counterparts"
Soooooo you could argue the same thing with Resident Evil revelations 1 and 2, GTA stories series on PSP, God Of War on PSP, KH Birth By Sleep on PSP etc.
You are arguing the same thing, different system ie moot. Its already been established.
" doubles as an actual console " Not really, it has a HDMI out... PSP had a AV out...so you are not really talking about something brand new, you are talking about the same feature, different system ie moot. ie already established and could be argued for many portables. You can play a smart phone on the tv btw.
"they're just downgraded to fit on the specs of the system " I know right, because that has never happened before for any portable in history? You sure?
"Mobile technology still isn't up to consoles " doesn't need to be, the market has already shifted to mobile being the majority.
"people will buy the Switch version if they can take it with them. " Ok, just like they could with past portables. They've known that for generations.....
"People can own a PS5 and a Switch. " No one is stating they can't, the fact that they MUST own both is no different then the past situations with owning a 3DS and a PS3 or a DS and a PS2 or a PS1 and a GBA...starting to see a pattern or?
The same reasons to own a portable exist....the same reasons to own an actual home console exist. For the most part, its a moot point. We are not really breaking ground here on any concept, even remotely.
EDMIX
Member
If you waited for 3DS or their past handhelds to lower in price or release a certain property before buying, I don't see that changing.
I've bought the last several Nintendo handhelds years after release and for about less then 6 games. Their titles they publish have not changed enough for me to jump on Switch any earlier then their past portables which leads me to believe they are not really getting any more folks buying it that otherwise where not already going to at some point. Simply "when". I'll buy for Animal Crossing and SMTV
(but then again...I bought for Animal Crossing and SMTIV on 3DS so.....history repeats itself)
EDMIX
Member
I mean....its not bad logic bud. Consider its been that way for many gamers. If they stop making exclusives (ie putting games on PC now day and date) and they don't have much of a diverse library, of course "zero game on that system is must have". They just haven't branched out enough and by putting games on PC, for many its ended any desire to even own it one day if they can just keep their PCs.
So if you hated 360 and MS basically just released a lot of the same IP, of course you'll feel the same way about XONE.
Same can be stated about Nintendo systems though. Releasing Mario or Zelda 100x isn't going to make a lot change their minds anymore then Halo Gears combo any more then 100x Call Of Duties etc.
New IP.
That is the thing that gets in new consumers. So if this person is waiting for a must have, they might be either waiting for an established IP from Nintendo where its more of a "when" thing or they are waiting for something different enough that isn't just the same concepts Nintendo has been pushing for decades.
It would be like saying you don't like Medal Of Honor so where is Call Of Duty and expect you to be thrilled or something. Nintendo can still do better by making a bit more IP that isn't the same family, happy go lucky rated G themes they usually go for. They can still have other concepts, but focusing on that has only created preconceived notions about the company and brand that keep folks away simply cause they didn't like Wii or DS etc. So I'm in the same boat as that person, I'm waiting for a few titles like AC, SMTV etc.
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EDMIX
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Agreed and very good point. Even if someone has no current gen system, with XONE you are still getting all the major (or most of them) multiplatforms titles.
Folks are not getting that with Switch which means its even MORE focus of just waiting for a first party exclusive or 3rd party exclusive etc.
m.i.s.
Banned
Did you [re]buy? Or are you still playing the waiting game?
Personally, I figure I've waited this long, I might as wait a little longer. Virtua Racing will be one of the first games I get. Fantastic rendition of a game that has appeared on very few platforms. A fair number of high quality indie titles on the store too.
But...[regarding NSW Lite], what are those fools waiting for?!? 3DS hardware sales have collapsed and software has declined sharply. They've downgraded previous FY forecast of NSW from 20 to 17 million units [and still failed to reach the revised forecast, lol].
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Jubenhimer
Member
I mean, yeah the Switch doesn't really have a show stopper for the first half this year, but calling it a drought is dishonest. You want to see a drought, try the Wii U days where there was NOTHING released for months on end.
leo-j
Member
Ps3 fat was horrific for developers, horrifically big of a design. Had no rumble. Ps2 games ran but not all of them ran.
Ps4 was a way better design, way smaller, cost efficient, was easy to make games for, was a beast and the most powerful platform at launch moreso than ps3 vs x360.
m.i.s.
Banned
Sales deffo slowing.
Week 21 [May 20 - May 26] Famitsu.
Switch in Japan 25,936 cf 31,673 from last year.
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW | 25.936 | 32.564 | 31.673 | 1.294.591 | 952.585 | 8.184.137 |
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
I just don’t use my switch as much as I would like. The games seem to be far too sparse for me. I’m STILL waiting in Metroid Prime 4/Metroid Trilogy... Still waiting on Pikmin 4... Still waiting on the next re-release of Mario, or Mario Maker, or Zelda...
It just seems that the gaps between big releases, for my tastes personally anyway, seem too far
It just seems that the gaps between big releases, for my tastes personally anyway, seem too far
V2Tommy
Member
To say nothing of the Sega Nomad, which did it ages before that. Nintendo rarely invents things, they just market it better. Similar to Apple, really (except that Apple hardware also tends to be the highest-end when possible).
Pretty much, I personally have used it more than my other consoles. There's no slowing down with them either. They will keep releasing hit after hit each year. Plus all 3DS games are now going to be developed for the switch. Like yokai watch, Luigi's mansion, ace attorney, animal crossing, pokemon, fire emblem, etc. there's just no reason not to own one. Unless you're a hater.
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
I own two Switch's; one modded and one that's stock.
While I do believe the Switch will have a good life cycle, just like any device it will lose momentum over time (Most people aren't going to buy a device multiple times, so it's standard that quarterly sales will decrease over time)
Ninty did miss a couple of huge marks that would have brought longevity to the monthly device sales, but hey I still love my Switch(s), andwill mod my second Switch to add the missed features accept the flaws for what they are
While I do believe the Switch will have a good life cycle, just like any device it will lose momentum over time (Most people aren't going to buy a device multiple times, so it's standard that quarterly sales will decrease over time)
Ninty did miss a couple of huge marks that would have brought longevity to the monthly device sales, but hey I still love my Switch(s), and
Shiken
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I buy all multiplats on Switch for portability, as I played both docked and on the go regularly. Barely touch my PS4Pro anymore unless it is a must have sequel or something as the Switch now has so many games available between 3rd and 1st party combined that I don't have time to play on anything else.
It is not hard to see why it is selling so well really.
It is not hard to see why it is selling so well really.
Petrae
Member
I just don’t use my switch as much as I would like. The games seem to be far too sparse for me. I’m STILL waiting in Metroid Prime 4/Metroid Trilogy... Still waiting on Pikmin 4... Still waiting on the next re-release of Mario, or Mario Maker, or Zelda...
It just seems that the gaps between big releases, for my tastes personally anyway, seem too far
Switch is my tertiary console, and unless a prominent new first-party game comes out, it just kinda sits there collecting dust. Smash was the last game that resonated with me; I bought the last Yoshi game and the Mario WiiU port, but I just traded those in since I played ‘em twice and never bothered going back.
I don’t regret getting the Switch, since there have been some decent games for it, but those OMG MUST HAVE titles don’t seem to come out as often as I’d like. PS4 and XBO have plenty to hold me over until that next game comes, whenever it is.
reconminicon
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Nothing will stop the juggernaut of ports...
Not like the Xbox and PS are full of MUST HAVE titles so far this year either.
I always get the Switch version for multiplat indie titles.
I dunno. Something about being able to ly in bed and conveniently play a session or two on a device tbat has just the right size and quality of screen.
It's a really good machine. One of my favourites of all time hardware-wise.
I dunno. Something about being able to ly in bed and conveniently play a session or two on a device tbat has just the right size and quality of screen.
It's a really good machine. One of my favourites of all time hardware-wise.
blackjon24
Member
Ever heard of Sekiro, resident evil 2, ace combat 7, kh3, dmc5? I'd have a hard time seeing how anyone could argue that none of these are worth playing. If you only play on switch ya I'd say this year has been lack luster so far but not the case for the other consoles and pc.
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Geki-D
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If you honestly believe this, you must really not know what games have come out since the beginning of the year. I assume you're going to take the fallacious position that "third parties don't count"? If so I'd like to know why not seeing as they're games to play on PS4 & XB1 that aren't on Switch?
I'm also wondering how well the Switch is really doing seeing as it's technically replaced their home & portable systems. Are they actually selling 2 system's worth of Switches?
HUELEN10
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I see this more often than I’d like. I think of Nintendo in the 7th gen and overall, their output was incredible with something for everyone. You had NSMBW, Mario Galaxy, Skyward Sword, Metroid Prime 3, THREE amazing Excite entries, Punch-Out, and countless other amazing games.
What SHovelware did Nintendo make?
somerset
Member
I think hand-held comes and goes, even tho the format would suggest that once it becomes popular, it should stay popular.
To be honest, hand held came after my time, and apart from running the original duke nukem on a zodiac (the best palm), and beating my bro at head-to-head gameboy Tetris, I've never enjoyed it. But I didn't think Switch would be a success in the light of the previous fail, and phone twiddling- yet phone twiddling seems to have created a massive market for a better twiddling experience.
I still think the Switch twiddlers are not real gamers but the classic fashion crowd- really really big into a thing when they 'think' that's what the hip must do- and then out of it just as fast when the 'authority' tells them hip lies somewhere else.
This comment is about adults tho. Not kids playing a beloved toy. But Nintendo has always tapped into a curious adult market- I've said before I've know non-gamers who ranted on in the office about finishing some game on their kid's N64 or whatever.
I mean I tried BOTW- and did sorta like a lot about it- but god it is so childish and dumbed down in a ton of respects. One gets the real impression Nintendo targets adults whose IQ isn't exactly the 'highest' (to say the least). Rather in the same way tabloid journalism exists, or any low culture. For people who would never dream of cracking open a decent book.
Yet the Best Nintendo games are still doing some good things other mainstream devs have streamlined out of their dumbed down titles. I mean, for heaven's sake, how can anyone like AC:O, or AC:O. The elements of Nintendo games meant to appeal to smarter kids humiliate many 'adults only' titles like the two mentioned.
Anyway- handheld... I recall the burst of interest over the PSP- and that didn't last. But Nintendo seems to be blessed, for reasons that defy simple analysis.
To be honest, hand held came after my time, and apart from running the original duke nukem on a zodiac (the best palm), and beating my bro at head-to-head gameboy Tetris, I've never enjoyed it. But I didn't think Switch would be a success in the light of the previous fail, and phone twiddling- yet phone twiddling seems to have created a massive market for a better twiddling experience.
I still think the Switch twiddlers are not real gamers but the classic fashion crowd- really really big into a thing when they 'think' that's what the hip must do- and then out of it just as fast when the 'authority' tells them hip lies somewhere else.
This comment is about adults tho. Not kids playing a beloved toy. But Nintendo has always tapped into a curious adult market- I've said before I've know non-gamers who ranted on in the office about finishing some game on their kid's N64 or whatever.
I mean I tried BOTW- and did sorta like a lot about it- but god it is so childish and dumbed down in a ton of respects. One gets the real impression Nintendo targets adults whose IQ isn't exactly the 'highest' (to say the least). Rather in the same way tabloid journalism exists, or any low culture. For people who would never dream of cracking open a decent book.
Yet the Best Nintendo games are still doing some good things other mainstream devs have streamlined out of their dumbed down titles. I mean, for heaven's sake, how can anyone like AC:O, or AC:O. The elements of Nintendo games meant to appeal to smarter kids humiliate many 'adults only' titles like the two mentioned.
Anyway- handheld... I recall the burst of interest over the PSP- and that didn't last. But Nintendo seems to be blessed, for reasons that defy simple analysis.
ROMhack
Member
I love Nintendo but this whole thread is such a circlejerk.
"Mr. Burns, your campaign seems to have the momentum
of a runaway freight train.
Why are you so popular?"
You're more than welcome to discuss stuff you don't like about the Switch.
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LordRaptor
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Isn't it outselling the PS4 launch aligned? If it's not, its still close, because PS4 price cuts enter the equation soon, and the Switch is still at launch pricing.
So if you think the PS4 is doing ok when thats a consolidation of a companies handheld and stationary consoles into one unit, I don;t see how you can say the Switch isn't.
I assume you didn't name any MUST HAVEs from first 5 months of 2019 on the Xbox/PS because there aren't any.
I also assume you are then going to name the games you like on the Xbox/PS and then pass those as MUST HAVES because you liked them.
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Yeah I wouldn't say any of those are MUST HAVES.
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ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Sekiro - I don't like animation based combat, though the A E S T H E T I C is appealing
Resident Evil 2 - Never been a fan of horror games, or typically the horror genre in general in entertainment mediums
Ace Combat 7 - Unless I'm sitting in a arcade cab cock pit, not interested
KH3 - Bought, but oh boy, I should have waited for the DLC etc, plus I know people who despise Disney
DMC5 - Never been my thing, always felt like a weird demon-y musou game
Not saying they're not worth playing to other people, but I wouldn't by a console solely for the above mentioned games, and would argue that they're not worth playing compared to other titles I enjoy more.
Depends on what games you like to play is about it, really.
Hell, I have a buddy who STILL plays Anthem, and will righteously defend his purchase
blackjon24
Member
What do you even play? If none of these are worth your incredible standards than I'd imagine you haven't played a switch game in like 2 years
Very little from 2019. Haven't seen any MUST HAVES yet. Mario Maker 2 is probably the first I would call a MUST HAVE.
I'm not sure how you understood my comment as "This thread is not enabling me to complain about the Switch", but I thank you for the reminder.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I think we will see alot of Japanese devs who are used to the Playstation platform making the "Switch" in the next couple of years, with Sony moving away from Japan as its home base and becoming American this will alienate some developers. We are already seeing this happen with some titles announcing switch releases of otherwise Playstation exclusive franchises as they make the transition. This will be a boon for the Switch console as we will not only see a solid library of Nintendo first party but a large selection of PSP/Vita/PS2 style JRPG's hitting the system.