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Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 officially announced

Furozen

Member

Today, we have to tell you that we need some more time to get you the game you’ve been waiting for. Although Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 will still launch in 2020, we have decided to value quality over making the Q1 launch window.

Personally, I blame Cyberpunk 2077 for this ;)
 

Ivory Blood

Member
After they cancelled their playable demo the delay was inevitable. Though it's better this way, Cyberpunk, Last of Us, FF7. They would have been crashed by the competition.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
They should push it back to 2021. I can wait to play a better game at launch.

"A delayed game is eventually good. But, a rushed game is forever bad" © Shigeru Miyamoto
 
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Kamina

Golden Boy
They should push it back to 2021. I can wait to play a better game at launch.

"A delayed game is eventually good. But, a rushed game is forever bad" © Shigeru Miyamoto
“I didn't mean to say a bad game is always bad, what I meant to say is if you release a game in a bad state you will always regret it,” Miyamoto explained
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
The gameplay demo from e3 was a total mess, hope they can fixe the combat and the general feeling of the game
 

Ivory Blood

Member
A bit off topic, but still. I didn't know whether to post it here or in CP2077 thread, but since it's more VtM, here you go, have a crossover.



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MadYarpen

Member
Combat info sounds good, I guess. But I'm not sure I like what he is saying about the skill system. The original game had a very complex one, a proper RPG system and I remember I loved it. I mean it can be a bit dated now, but last thing I would like would be a standard aRPG skill tree whe have now in most cases...
 

Teslerum

Member
Oh, in some random news related to the game Brian Mitsoda has divorced Annie Van der Meer Mitsoda.
This also means Double Bear Productions (Dead State/Panic at Multiverse High) is dead. Which is a bit sad considering Dead State was somewhat underrated (imo).

:goog_cautious:

Oh, yeah. He's also likely left her for/is banging Cara Ellison. Gotta catch all those feminsts. Weeeeeee. :lollipop_bomb:
 
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Teslerum

Member
Are there any links to articles or sources for this?

Twitter. Wiki, Linkedin.

To make it short:

Regarding their marriage

- Annie and Brian removed ALL mentions of each other or being married from their accounts. Obsessivly so. They also went completly silent to each other on social media even before that and Annie has been recently reminising about her past while activly avoiding crediting Brian with anything.

So, don't ask me how far along the divorce is, but the removal of all mentions of their marriage including in prospect of future employement (Linkedin) was a conscious decision on their part. So that's pretty much confirmed.

Now about Ellison:

- Up until July last year Annie was very good friends with Ellison. Quite visibly so in fact as they were constantly interacting on twitter. Then that all suddenly stopped and Annie gives her the same treatement she gives Brian. From that moment on Ellison also began gushing constantly about Brian.

Now the Ellison thing is speculation (which is why I said likely), but the timing and her sudden closeness to Brian are more than a bit suspicious.
 

A.Romero

Member
Twitter. Wiki, Linkedin.

To make it short:

Regarding their marriage

- Annie and Brian removed ALL mentions of each other or being married from their accounts. Obsessivly so. They also went completly silent to each other on social media even before that and Annie has been recently reminising about her past while activly avoiding crediting Brian with anything.

So, don't ask me how far along the divorce is, but the removal of all mentions of their marriage including in prospect of future employement (Linkedin) was a conscious decision on their part. So that's pretty much confirmed.

Now about Ellison:

- Up until July last year Annie was very good friends with Ellison. Quite visibly so in fact as they were constantly interacting on twitter. Then that all suddenly stopped and Annie gives her the same treatement she gives Brian. From that moment on Ellison also began gushing constantly about Brian.

Now the Ellison thing is speculation (which is why I said likely), but the timing and her sudden closeness to Brian are more than a bit suspicious.

This was fun to read for some reason. I don't know who all that people are... Thanks.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Twitter. Wiki, Linkedin.

To make it short:

Regarding their marriage

- Annie and Brian removed ALL mentions of each other or being married from their accounts. Obsessivly so. They also went completly silent to each other on social media even before that and Annie has been recently reminising about her past while activly avoiding crediting Brian with anything.

So, don't ask me how far along the divorce is, but the removal of all mentions of their marriage including in prospect of future employement (Linkedin) was a conscious decision on their part. So that's pretty much confirmed.

Now about Ellison:

- Up until July last year Annie was very good friends with Ellison. Quite visibly so in fact as they were constantly interacting on twitter. Then that all suddenly stopped and Annie gives her the same treatement she gives Brian. From that moment on Ellison also began gushing constantly about Brian.

Now the Ellison thing is speculation (which is why I said likely), but the timing and her sudden closeness to Brian are more than a bit suspicious.
Lmao. This game is going to be a shit show.
 

Makariel

Member
Twitter. Wiki, Linkedin.

To make it short:

Regarding their marriage

- Annie and Brian removed ALL mentions of each other or being married from their accounts. Obsessivly so. They also went completly silent to each other on social media even before that and Annie has been recently reminising about her past while activly avoiding crediting Brian with anything.

So, don't ask me how far along the divorce is, but the removal of all mentions of their marriage including in prospect of future employement (Linkedin) was a conscious decision on their part. So that's pretty much confirmed.

Now about Ellison:

- Up until July last year Annie was very good friends with Ellison. Quite visibly so in fact as they were constantly interacting on twitter. Then that all suddenly stopped and Annie gives her the same treatement she gives Brian. From that moment on Ellison also began gushing constantly about Brian.

Now the Ellison thing is speculation (which is why I said likely), but the timing and her sudden closeness to Brian are more than a bit suspicious.
So, at this point just conjecture, rumour and speculation then?
 
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Deleted member 471617

Unconfirmed Member
Does this game have voice acting for the protagonist or is he silent? Thanks.
 

Teslerum

Member
So, at this point just conjecture, rumour and speculation then?

Uhm. No?

Their marriage being over is confirmed by their own actions. Unless you want them to send you their divorce papers personally thats as good as you are going to get on the internet. Or do you often remove any instance of being married from your application letter for funsies (Including going back to your old name)?

And I never said or implied that the Cara Ellison thing was fact. Just something likely with a bad joke attached to it.
 
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Makariel

Member
Their marriage being over is confirmed by their own actions. Unless you want them to send you their divorce papers personally thats as good as you are going to get on the internet. Or do you often remove any instance of being married from your application letter for funsies (Including going back to your old name)?
I simply don't mention that I'm married on my linkedin or in job applications, since it has absolutely no relevance for my work. I also don't advertise my relationship status on twitter. Maybe I'm the weird one here, but not mentioning your relationship status on linkedin is just the professional thing to do.
 

Siri

Banned
Fuck do I care about some dude divorcing his wife, announce the release date for the game already. ;)

I’m not following the logic here either? One person above said ‘this game is going to be a shitshow’ - why. because one of the developers is getting divorced? Huh?

More likely, this is another instance where a certain percentage of gamers has decided to hate a game before its release, and together they’re going to dogpile on it. We saw the same thing happen recently with Control - you could tell, in every thread about the game before its release, that some people wanted Control to be bad and for it to fail both critically and commercially.

I guess hate culture is just ingrained in gaming now.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
I’m not following the logic here either? One person above said ‘this game is going to be a shitshow’ - why. because one of the developers is getting divorced? Huh?

More likely, this is another instance where a certain percentage of gamers has decided to hate a game before its release, and together they’re going to dogpile on it. We saw the same thing happen recently with Control - you could tell, in every thread about the game before its release, that some people wanted Control to be bad and for it to fail both critically and commercially.

I guess hate culture is just ingrained in gaming now.
Get the fuck over yourself. I have a functioning brain and I have been following the details coming out about this game from the developer’s mouths themselves. Everything I have seen points towards this game being not what fans want.

Add to that, that the head guy might have left his wife to have a relationship with the game’s main writer whilst it is still in development, leads me to believe that Cara Ellison wields disproportional influence over this product than her resume and actions should warrant.

It all comes together for me to predict this game will be a shitshow. If I end up off the mark, feel free to rub it in my face. But, until then, you can take your “hate culture” hot take and shove it.

I’ve seen two posts from you this week (first of yours I’ve noticed) and they’ve both been thinly veiled, REEE-style screeching. You’re boring.
 

Teslerum

Member
I simply don't mention that I'm married on my linkedin or in job applications, since it has absolutely no relevance for my work. I also don't advertise my relationship status on twitter. Maybe I'm the weird one here, but not mentioning your relationship status on linkedin is just the professional thing to do.

Uhhh.. What are you even talking about? They did mention it. That's the whole point.
They removed any indication of their marriage. They had it listened. It was there.

And most of all your name does have relevance to your work. My wife also uses her new name in any professional enviromnent.
So did Annie as Annie VanDerMeer-Mitsoda. FOR 10 YEARS. Now its just Annie VanDerMeer again.

Just to list it again what happened:

- She left the company she and her spouse co-founded. Who's a two person game development company specifically founded for them to create games together.
- For all intents and purposes she changed her name again back to her maiden one.
- She activly unfollwed her spouse on all social media accounts.
- She removed any mention of her marriage from her social media accounts. While having it there for, again, a decade.
 
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Doczu

Member
Was the first game like deux ex? Maybe I should try it! :)
Yup, but it's jankier and the combat is broken without the fan patch. Well the whole game is broken without it, so if you want to play buy the GOG version which ships with the fan patch IIRC.
 

magnumpy

Member
whoa. and this is available on ps4, just imagine what will be possible on ps5 an equal number of years into it's life :eek:
 

Siri

Banned
Get the fuck over yourself. I have a functioning brain and I have been following the details coming out about this game from the developer’s mouths themselves. Everything I have seen points towards this game being not what fans want.

Add to that, that the head guy might have left his wife to have a relationship with the game’s main writer whilst it is still in development, leads me to believe that Cara Ellison wields disproportional influence over this product than her resume and actions should warrant.

It all comes together for me to predict this game will be a shitshow. If I end up off the mark, feel free to rub it in my face. But, until then, you can take your “hate culture” hot take and shove it.

I’ve seen two posts from you this week (first of yours I’ve noticed) and they’ve both been thinly veiled, REEE-style screeching. You’re boring.

So the game will be a ‘shit show’ because the game’s ‘head guy might have left his wife to have a relationship with the game’s main writer‘? What are you even talking about?

And cut it out with the personal attacks. There‘s no need for that horse shit around here.
 

Virex

Banned
Oh, in some random news related to the game Brian Mitsoda has divorced Annie Van der Meer Mitsoda.
This also means Double Bear Productions (Dead State/Panic at Multiverse High) is dead. Which is a bit sad considering Dead State was somewhat underrated (imo).

:goog_cautious:

Oh, yeah. He's also likely left her for/is banging Cara Ellison. Gotta catch all those feminsts. Weeeeeee. :lollipop_bomb:
So you're just copying old news from rpgcodex?
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
So the game will be a ‘shit show’ because the game’s ‘head guy might have left his wife to have a relationship with the game’s main writer‘? What are you even talking about?
I said that is one reason of many. Don’t cherry pick what I say if you want to be taken seriously.

And cut it out with the personal attacks. There‘s no need for that horse shit around here.
You get what you deserve. When I notice you posting something normal instead of REEE garbage, I’ll give it due respect.
 
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So the game will be a ‘shit show’ because the game’s ‘head guy might have left his wife to have a relationship with the game’s main writer‘? What are you even talking about?

And cut it out with the personal attacks. There‘s no need for that horse shit around here.

With whats happened to some of the most revered IPs over the last...almost 10 years, theres more of a chance that yet another beloved/highly regarded IP is going to be a shit show than it not being one.

Its either get hyped up and expect the world, then be told that we expected too much even though what was promised wasnt delivered (No Mans Sky), or, we can assume the worst based on the last decade of gaming and be right about based on the obvious signs (ME Andromeda).

The telltale signs are easily spotted when you no longer get emotionally attached to what amounts to a "grown up" and digital version of:

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