I can't wrap my head around how next gen consoles can perform between 2080 and 2080 Ti, when these cards are extremely expensive. Even 5700 XT is the price of a single console and this card offers 9-10 tflops?Wait till a year or two after next gen drops. a 1070 won't get optimization like the console APU's.
Devs are saying the next gen GPU's are between a 2080 and 2080 ti and that's without all the optimization they will do over the generation.
I'd wait for the new 3000 series.
Do you think a GTX 1070 will be able to hold it's own in next gen. Or is it a washed card in now?
It's not enought for this gen lmao. Unless you're playing on 720p or something.
Don’t think so, as most games minimum graphics requirement will be next gen console graphical power which is rumored to be close to rtx 2070..
Is a GTX750Ti or AMD 7850 viable today? Because that's very roughly the equivalent of the PS4.
If you would be satisfied running current games on those GPUs, then the answer is yes. Otherwise I think it will be time to upgrade in a couple of years (I imagine 3 years into next gen) A 1070 will probably be a little less than what the new consoles offer. But in the similar ballpark relative to them.
I can't wrap my head around how next gen consoles can perform between 2080 and 2080 Ti, when these cards are extremely expensive. Even 5700 XT is the price of a single console and this card offers 9-10 tflops?
It's not enought for this gen lmao. Unless you're playing on 720p or something.
Exactly. People forget the next gen consoles will be targeting 4k. If you have a 1080p screen, or are happy to play at 1080p, then a 1070 will be more than enough. In fact a 1070 at 1080p will probably run some 30fps next gen games at 60fps.Yes. If Console games focus on 4k, even a 1060 will be fine.
Er you realize a 1070 is more powerful than all the consoles right?, including the OneX.It's not enought for this gen lmao. Unless you're playing on 720p or something.
I had a GTX750 at the start of this gen, which is more or less PS4 level, and i could run some current gen games at 60fps that were 30fps on XB1/PS4. The fabled 'console optimization' is overstated. Although PC optimization has been pretty crappy the last couple years, but we are at the point in this gen where most people have a good enough rig to brute force current gen games so devs dont put the same optimization into PC games at this point.I find it funny how console warriors are claiming that upcoming consoles will have specs comparable to RTX 2080 ti, when history shows that every console iteration, falls flat on its face in terms of resolution, frame rate, performance, etc. Every year we hear that consoles will be beating PC, and every year it's always the same thing, time after time. and I'm not heading on consoles, in fact I want them to be as powerful as possible, so that they don't hold back PC games again this generation. Look at Crysis 1 compared to each iteration after the original. It became a corridor shooter versus an open-world game. Just don't get your hopes up too much, console guys.
Back in topic a gtx 1070 will last several years. A rtx 2060 is a better buy if you can get them similar price.
Exactly. And the biggest reason of doubt will go to the power usage. Can you imagine running a desktop class processor and GPU, that will rival a RTX 2080, with a power envelope of around 200ish watts, in TOTAL?! The industry didn't suddenly give birth to the most efficient silicone chips over night, on an architecture so futuristically advance. But console warriors will fight about rumor after rumor. It's gonna be funny when digital foundry ends all the hype for next gen consoles, and starts dropping the frame and resolution analysis videos for next gen performance.I had a GTX750 at the start of this gen, which is more or less PS4 level, and i could run some current gen games at 60fps that were 30fps on XB1/PS4. The fabled 'console optimization' is overstated. Although PC optimization has been pretty crappy the last couple years, but we are at the point in this gen where most people have a good enough rig to brute force current gen games so devs dont put the same optimization into PC games at this point.
And yeah, if the consoles have more 'real world' power than a 1080ti, i'll be surprised, nevermind a 2080 or 2080ti lol.
I wouldn’t say that about the entire pascal series... 1080 Ti has more power and vramYou will need at least a 20xx series board for this new generation coming. The 10xx series is just too underpowered.
Underpowered? But still more powerful than Xbox series X and PS5... I don't get how that makes sense? Especially pairing a moderate cpu, and it'll walk all over next gen consoles. How much performance can you squeeze out of a small form factor with only ~200watts of power? Console enthusiasts are gonna be so let down this generation with expectations like this.You will need at least a 20xx series board for this new generation coming. The 10xx series is just too underpowered.
My thoughts exactly.I wouldn’t say that about the entire pascal series... 1080 Ti has more power and vram
This is why I hate PC gaming and prefer consoles for unstable framerates and sub 30fps gaming.
You can't play Shadow of the Tomb Raider or RDR2 or Metro Exodus (I think) on ultra at 1080p with 1070 even without RTX shenanigans. (I have to justify myself updating from 1070 to 2070S)Er you realize a 1070 is more powerful than all the consoles right?, including the OneX.
You can't play Shadow of the Tomb Raider or RDR2 or Metro Exodus (I think) on ultra at 1080p with 1070 even without RTX shenanigans. (I have to justify myself updating from 1070 to 2070S)
My pc, and many others would love to have a talk with you right now. Have you not done a simple Google search, like ever?!You can't play RDR2 on Ultra with 1080p/60 stable on any GPU on the market right now.
My pc, and many others would love to have a talk with you right now. Have you not done a simple Google search, like ever?!
Wtf have you been smoking?! The very first website, from an actual reputable website shows that to be complete b.s.
What quality settings are consoles at, while dipping to 22fps? Please tell me that. They definitely aren't at high or medium for the most part. And can't even pull 30fps consistently. Do you think the upcoming consoles will be more powerful than a 2080 ti? More or less a 2080, 2070, or even more or less trading blows with a 2060, if even?! Serious question."High Quality"
What quality settings are consoles at, while dipping to 22fps? Please tell me that. They definitely aren't at high or medium for the most part. And can't even pull 30fps consistently. Do you think the upcoming consoles will be more powerful than a 2080 ti? More or less a 2080, 2070, or even more or less trading blows with a 2060, if even?! Serious question.
What quality settings are consoles at, while dipping to 22fps? Please tell me that. They definitely aren't at high or medium for the most part. And can't even pull 30fps consistently. Do you think the upcoming consoles will be more powerful than a 2080 ti? More or less a 2080, 2070, or even more or less trading blows with a 2060, if even?! Serious question.
I think you are thinking about 4k, everything maxed out. I have the game dude, i run everything at Ultra and some settings at high, at 3440x1440 resolution at 100+ fps with a 2080 ti. Wherever you are getting this weird idea that pc can't play it at 1080p 60fps is ludicrously outright wrong, especially as i showed you the benchmarks previously for 1080p, so please verify why you are getting resolutions wrong.Console setting look like this exactly
Game runs fine on most mid-high end GPUs on these settings (some X1X settings are lower than low so you can't have that on PC). But on ultra settings RDR2 just murders GPUs right now, that's why I said no GPU on the market is running it 1080/fully stable 60 fps (maybe oced 2080ti?).
Based on the rumors XSX GPU will be around 2070S-2080 level of power.
I think you are thinking about 4k, everything maxed out. I have the game dude, i run everything at Ultra and some settings at high, at 3440x1440 resolution at 100+ fps with a 2080 ti. Wherever you are getting this weird idea that pc can't play it at 1080p 60fps is ludicrously outright wrong, especially as i showed you the benchmarks previously for 1080p, so please verify why you are getting resolutions wrong.
And by the way, those settings are low and medium and the Xbox 1x can't even keep a 30fps. What makes you think this Target framerate won't be 60 fps, and 2k resolution Target. Remember how current gen was supposed to handle 4k at 60fps ? It struggled to do 1080p 30fps in some games, so don't expect it to suddenly leapfrog pc or even keep up with it in comparisons.
For some reason only dx12 benchmarks are posted, and everyone runs vulkan api, not dx12. And this was taken in November before patches and driver updates. But "there's no gpu on the market that can play it maxed out, even with settings that consoles can't even replicate, at 60fps 1080p" is complete utter b.s.Gamegpu.ru tested game with everything crancked up to the max (I'm not sure about MSAA), that's the true "ultra" settings.
4K Ultra
About NG: I think plenty of cross gen games will be 60fps on PS5/XSX just because those titles will be designed with Jaguar in mind and developers will have ton of spare cpu cycles (or at least variable 40 fps+ with VRR), unless they slam some heavy RT in them. But for true next gen games 30 fps will be the target for sure, as always. Minimum requierements for CPUs will skyrocket.
For some reason only dx12 benchmarks are posted, and everyone runs vulkan api, not dx12. And this was taken in November before patches and driver updates. But "there's no gpu on the market that can play it maxed out, even with settings that consoles can't even replicate, at 60fps 1080p" is complete utter b.s.
You said 1080p 60fps, now you are saying 4k. Keep moving the fucking goal posts lol. You do realize with everything on high settings, it still looks better than anything console can do, at quadruple the framerate. Many settings that the console cannot replicate. There is no comparison.
According to your site, Xbox one x can only run 13fps to 17fps. @1080p!!! And that would be with one of the best processors possible, so subtract that framerate by a huge margin because of the crappy Jaguar cpu the xbx and ps4pro have. Think about that for a secondEvery site tests in different places. Place where GG tested runs worse than place B3D used.