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PS5 UI Will Be Shown Soon, Boasting "100% Overhaul" And "Very Different New Concepts'' - PlayStation Universe

PlayStation's VP of UX Design has said that the upcoming PS5's UI will shown in the not too distant future and it's sounding like a departure from PS4.

www.psu.com

PS5 UI Will Be Shown Soon, Boasting “100% Overhaul” And “Very Different New Concepts”

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Really? I'm still 95%+ disc games. But then again, I tend not to keep games. Once they're completely played out, I sell them. It has additional advantages that I can take the risk on a game I'm not sure about, find out 3 weeks later that it's no good, and sell it to recoup some of my losses.

The same goes for games that I expect to be great, but turn out to be crap .... *cough*rdr2*cough*. Only lost £6 on that one.

I'm 100% with you, I just happened to use a US account, and I usually buy season passes and so. Some games get banned here like TLOU2 lately, so the US accounts and UK accounts are quite famous around here.

Discs tend to be cheaper here, and if TLOU2 wasn't banned it would've been available here like 1-2 weeks before official launch, that's one of the biggest perks.

 

[Neo Blaster]

The thinking around PS5-DE is that all software purchases will be through PS Store, so they will recoup losses faster. Similar to people speculating MS Lockhart will be disc-less and push for gamepass. Without discs, you are stuck with company stores or redeemable codes.

Sony have blocked game codes to be sold from retailers, haven't they? If you grab PS5 DE, the only way to buy games is from PS Store, be it through credit cards or PS Store money gift cards sold by retailers. That's a great incentive for it to be cheaper than the disc version and an entry point for casuals.

 

[Corndog]

You have tens of baiting posts here, several of them are addressed to BO to make him banned.

Do you want an example? Here is you again, baiting BO accusing him of lying for saying something that is totally true

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-06-12-playstation-5-is-a-hefty-chonk-of-a-console ------------------------ I better not die in the next 7 days Ring, ring It's for you, someone called Samara...

www.neogaf.com

All the fucking time doing the same shit.

Time to stop trolling and baiting people. Take the warning of Mod of War seriously; it is not place for your personal vendettas

Maybe you missed this reply. I only call out info I believe to be false. That is not trolling. Is it trolling to try to correct false information? And as you can see I was challenged on the info and I conceded.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

Did you read the whole article? While the show it using 2080ti it can run at 60 FPS on a 2070. Series x has more power then 2070. Did you read it? Literally says they were running it on a 2080 TI for the Xbox trailer. You keep saying Xbox showing games on 2080ti and trying to play it off...

www.neogaf.com

 

[MasterCornholio]

What next gen looks like

and 3 others

 

[Neo Blaster]

Trailer breakdown and "hidden details" by GameXplain

After watching that Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart video for the nth time, I noticed something: we know those fast dimensional transitions are only possible thanks to PS5's super fast SSD, but did you notice that when he enters a portal that fractured dimension screen remains for about 2-3 seconds before an entire new area appears? Do you think that's some kind of loading screen, so the SSD loading is not instantaneous, or it was an intentional delay to avoid player disorientation due to fast scenery change?

That reminds me of Cerny's talk on the deep dive, when he said fast travel could be so fast developers would need to artificially delay the transition.

 

[Imtjnotu]

The theory is eat more loss, gain more guaranteed money from digital sales and can't play or buy used games or borrow the physical games.

So then fuck over everyone with a 599 unit? Not happening lol.

At most $499 for sad and $549 standard
Or $449 and $499

This machine won't go over $499

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So then fuck over everyone with a 599 unit? Not happening lol.

At most $499 for sad and $549 standard
Or $449 and $499

This machine won't go over $499

Its more like $450-500 for PS5 and $400-350 for PS5DE honestly.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Its more like $450-500 for PS5 and $400-350 for PS5DE honestly.

My bet is either 399(DE)/449 or 449(DE)/499

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Pre-alpha gameplay footage of Project Athia (PS5 timed exclusive + PC) running in real-time on PS5

Spoiler: 4k trailer

 

[sircaw]

After watching that Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart video for the nth time, I noticed something: we know those fast dimensional transitions are only possible thanks to PS5's super fast SSD, but did you notice that when he enters a portal that fractured dimension screen remains for about 2-3 seconds before an entire new area appears? Do you think that's some kind of loading screen, so the SSD loading is not instantaneous, or it was an intentional delay to avoid player disorientation due to fast scenery change?

That reminds of Cerny's talk on the deep dive, when he said fast travel could be so fast developers would need to artificially delay the transition.

I think digital foundry commented on something like that too or maybe Nx gamer or someone else lol. I have watched so many damn videos the last week.

I think you have to have some sort of delay or the changing zones just ends up being a flash. i would like some structre to them personally, like a tunnel with me falling into it for a few seconds, so if they add a delay i welcome it.

Not trying to throw shade on the Rachet game, but i really think sometimes there was to much focus on the rifts, every few seconds they were teleporting somewhere new. the technology is amazing but i want to stay in a world.

I hope that i am left to explore a massive world and its my choice to go into rifts when i want to go into them. I understand the main story will require some but i hope alot of the rifts are sort of optional, of the path if you get me..

Also, i remember looking at the amount of particles and effects on the screen at one stage in the video, i think when rachet blew up something. There were thousands of them lol, i was like fuck me that is overkill. I know the tech is impressive but my old eyes could not follow half of it.

It's not a complaint its just wow,
sorry for hijacking your point with other stuff. woops

 

[sircaw]

Pre-alpha gameplay footage of Project Athia (PS5 timed exclusive + PC) running in real-time on PS5

Love this scene.
not sure what it is but i love it

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Stray game footage (PS5 timed exclusive + PC) running in real-time on PS5

Spoiler: 4k trailer

 

[vpance]

After watching that Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart video for the nth time, I noticed something: we know those fast dimensional transitions are only possible thanks to PS5's super fast SSD, but did you notice that when he enters a portal that fractured dimension screen remains for about 2-3 seconds before an entire new area appears? Do you think that's some kind of loading screen, so the SSD loading is not instantaneous, or it was an intentional delay to avoid player disorientation due to fast scenery change?

That reminds me of Cerny's talk on the deep dive, when he said fast travel could be so fast developers would need to artificially delay the transition.

Even if they didn’t need to do the 1.5s portal load it looks better to have some transition there. Like the bifrost tunnel thing in Avengers.

 

[lepermessiah]

Finished watching the DF direct and they seemed very positive about the content shown. Richard made a good point about how they are using RT at Native 4K in first gen games given how recent the tech is. Common complaint stemmed regarding stream quality and presentation (too jam packed, didn't allow for games to breathe due to short trailers with little gameplay) which I agree with.

Only surprise was the complaining regarding Digital edition, just because it reduces the BoM by $20 doesn't mean, the retail price from PS5 would be only down by $20 too. That thing is designed to help them absorb heavy losses and make it an appealing buy over Lockhart. John also made a good point about them recovering those losses due to digital buys through their store.

Amusing to see 'Dictator' sum it up as a "pretty okay showcase" though, made me laugh.

Yee, Dictator just seems like a dicc, and not the juicy kind, at least try to mitigate your biases lmao What is this kindergarten?

I don't know about anyone else but I found a lot of the footage pretty damn mind-blowing, the fidelity is movie asset quality, I mean, read the again That's insane. Are we that desensitised and spoilt? I literally shid muh bridges over the Horizon footage like Jesus in the morning that looks beyond stunning.

 

[HAL-01]

After watching that Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart video for the nth time, I noticed something: we know those fast dimensional transitions are only possible thanks to PS5's super fast SSD, but did you notice that when he enters a portal that fractured dimension screen remains for about 2-3 seconds before an entire new area appears? Do you think that's some kind of loading screen, so the SSD loading is not instantaneous, or it was an intentional delay to avoid player disorientation due to fast scenery change?

That reminds me of Cerny's talk on the deep dive, when he said fast travel could be so fast developers would need to artificially delay the transition.

It is definitely a load screen, you can tell because there are slight hitches coming in and out of the ‘rift”, and some transitions take longer than others. Considering it is a worst case scenario (having to dump ram and fill it back again at once) the fact that it is this seamless is incredible

 

[Rusco Da Vino]

Maybe you missed this reply. I only call out info I believe to be false. That is not trolling. Is it trolling to try to correct false information? And as you can see I was challenged on the info and I conceded.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

Did you read the whole article? While the show it using 2080ti it can run at 60 FPS on a 2070. Series x has more power then 2070. Did you read it? Literally says they were running it on a 2080 TI for the Xbox trailer. You keep saying Xbox showing games on 2080ti and trying to play it off...

www.neogaf.com

I did not miss shit.

This is you (who asked for a fucking source), after you were provided with a direct source to prove you wrong: Still trolling and being disingenuous

Did you read the whole article? While the show it using 2080ti it can run at 60 FPS on a 2070. Series x has more power then 2070.

I followed the whole conversation. Before accusing others of lying, check the info first and dont make people waste their time.

This is what you do here, accusing others users of lying, trolling and console warring without any fucking proof.

You derailed the thread enough today. Even a mod called you out.

Move on!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Official PS5 Consoles and Accessories: (Highest Image Quality)

PlayStation 5

PlayStation 5 Digital Edition

DualSense Wireless Controller Charging Station

PS5 HD Camera

PS5 Media Remote

Pulse 3D Wireless Headset for PS5

DualSense Wireless Controller

Side by side

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I do want to hear arguments on why PS5 costs more than XSX.

Custom SSD, cooling and ps5 design. I think they'll be priced equally.

 

[Mod of War]

Last chance to move on from the drama. Opinions and sources can and should be challenged, trolling centered around personal crusades or vendettas will result in thread removals. They always have.

With that said, dial it down on the pile ons as well for those with different opinions. They can be challenged and held to scrutiny, but don’t bully them either. Don’t think that also goes unnoticed.

 

[Metroiddarks]

When I saw people saying things like:

Why this game looks so similar than the current games

When the reality the game runs in a much higher resolution and the people who made it is from a small studio with smaller budget
that those AAA or even with a limited time to make it.

Those videos are CGI cannot be real

Who understand you guys first if you see something which is not impressive is disappointing but if is impressive is not real even when
they say is capture from PS5 and even some of the captures has some small artifacts which doesn't makes senses to exists in a CGI.

HZ looks good but those trees not

Please kill me before that you have contagious me and I have a life with that level of reasoning

I don't impress with HZ

What do you want CGI from a movie of the last year which was make during hours of rendering per frame... my god

The changes of dimension of Ratchet can be done now without problem in the same way

Yeah ...... do you use drugs or just drink antifreeze?



Basically every person who knows about the implications which means make a game are impressive for things like the
change of dimension in the game of ratchet or the level of detail in closeup in Horizon and all in the first wave of games.

Meanwhile people who think the graphics of a game is only define for how many operations part of the GPU can done
as theoretical max said "but I know things I readed in Twitter and saw it with my favorite youtuber". (You are cute.)

The same will be applied for the presentation of games of XSX please people try to understand and remember how the
changes of generations works.

 

[Gamernyc78]

also "casual consumers will go for lowest price" ?

me : *laughs in PS5 hardware reveal with 20 million views and 1 million likes*

PS3 also destroyed tht notion. Hundreds more, weaker online at the time and inferior multiplats yet it still outsold 360 upon release almost every month worldwide. Ima keep repeating this same shit bcus ppl talk out their ass instead of with historical facts. The wii was an exception, it was something ppl viewed different. Sony will outsell Xbox no matter the situation or slightly higher price ppl just want to have it more.

 

[Neo Blaster]

And now Capcom agrees that current consoles are a drag to next gen games.

 

[Gamerguy84]

Pricing is the one area I think Sony could possibly shoot themselves in the foot. Im buying it regardless because of the games. I dont think it would kill sales but could affect a few people.

Phil said long ago they wouldnt be beat on power and price. They have given away GP for a long time to gain get people in their ecosystem. If they feel Sony has the momentum, which as of now they do, I could see them taking a big hit on price. I believe they both lose money on console price in the beginning. The question is how much is each willing to lose.

But also, you can always drop price but you cant ever raise it.

 

[saintjules]

I knew it



/s

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

I see a new narrative popping out, it's about the 30fps on PS5 games. They are comparing AC Valhalla, a cross gen game, running at 4k/30 on Series X with the new Ratchet and Clank, a full next gen game, also running at 4K/30 with RT reflexions... the point is, this is ridiculous

 

[Brudda26]

Pre-alpha gameplay footage of Project Athia (PS5 timed exclusive + PC) running in real-time on PS5

Spoiler: 4k trailer

From what I'm aware it's not a timed exclusive its solely a PS5 only title for its entire life from what I've read. Mind you I've been reading so much stuff I could be confusing with something else.

Ah it is coming to PC

 

[Gamernyc78]

 

[Bryank75]

From what I'm aware it's not a timed exclusive its solely a PS5 only title for its entire life from what I've read. Mind you I've been reading so much stuff I could be confusing with something else.

Ah it is coming to PC

What if it is the code-name for the next FF? That too wild?

 

[Kusarigama]

Alright folks hear this out:

PS5: 449 USD
PS5 DIGITAL EDITION with 3 months PS Now: 399 USD

Speculated bom for PS5 was around 450$ so the final retail price wouldn't be as big a loss and the loss on DE could be recuperated from PSN sales.

With this strategy not only does PlayStation again launch at the sweet 399$ for more casual consumers but also be able to cater to core consumers at 450$.

 

[Gamernyc78]

 

[SentientStone]

Hm, if those faceplates are customizable....

 

[Bryank75]

PS5 reveal trailer is above 21 Million views now.

 

[Gamernyc78]

 

[DeepEnigma]

I have a feeling that the white parts are detachable.



No, mate, you're the only fish we got, be careful.

One of the first things I thought when I saw the controller reveal, was how it’s designed to be very customizable with colors, editions.

And when I saw the console and really stared at it, the first thing I thought was that those white panels easily pop off for again, colors and customized ones.

 

[Insane Metal]

When I saw people saying things like:

When the reality the game runs in a much higher resolution and the people who made it is from a small studio with smaller budget
that those AAA or even with a limited time to make it.

Who understand you guys first if you see something which is not impressive is disappointing but if is impressive is not real even when
they say is capture from PS5 and even some of the captures has some small artifacts which doesn't makes senses to exists in a CGI.

Please kill me before that you have contagious me and I have a life with that level of reasoning

What do you want CGI from a movie of the last year which was make during hours of rendering per frame... my god

Yeah ...... do you use drugs or just drink antifreeze?



Basically every person who knows about the implications which means make a game are impressive for things like the
change of dimension in the game of ratchet or the level of detail in closeup in Horizon and all in the first wave of games.

Meanwhile people who think the graphics of a game is only define for how many operations part of the GPU can done
as theoretical max said "but I know things I readed in Twitter and saw it with my favorite youtuber". (You are cute.)

The same will be applied for the presentation of games of XSX please people try to understand and remember how the
changes of generations works.

Seriously. The R&C world changing is insane. "Oh but there's 2 sec loading" OH REALLY? TRY SWAPPING *WHOLE WORLDS* ON PS4 OR ON PC IN 2 SECONDS, MORON

 

[Dee_Dee]

Can’t wait. Also wish they would make the LED light customizable in the settings. If not, i hope the light stays blue even when playing games.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Ps5 looks to be super customizable in totality from its hardware to its software implementation e.g. Os.

I can't wait!!

 

[Bryank75]

Can’t wait. Also wish they would make the LED light customizable in the settings. If not, i hope the light stays blue even when playing games.

They are customizable... they will go red when it breaks.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Seriously. The R&C world changing is insane. "Oh but there's 2 sec loading" OH REALLY? TRY SWAPPING *WHOLE WORLDS* ON PS4 OR ON PC IN 2 SECONDS, MORON

And that 2 sec loading is only in that sizzle reel. During that gameplay part, where Ratchet enters those yellow portals, the transition is instantaneous.

 

[Gamernyc78]

And that 2 sec loading is only in that sizzle reel. During that gameplay part, where Ratchet enters those yellow portals, the transition is instantaneous.

Yooooo it'll be crazy if changing worlds and teleporting is like a button function like press R2 to go in portal and be in level 2-2 instead of level 2-1

 

[Insane Metal]

And that 2 sec loading is only in that sizzle reel. During that gameplay part, where Ratchet enters those yellow portals, the transition is instantaneous.

Yup and I was just as impressed with GT7. When the player selected the car, it simply faded to black and then it was racing in like 2 secs again. Awesome!

 

[Neo Blaster]

It's ironic that we've been saying for a long time PS5 SSD is not just about loading, but the only way to make the regular gamer understand the speed advantage is showing the absence of such loading screens. We know elevators and corridors are used to hide loading, but most won't notice they're gone, just like those fast transitions aren't perceived as something amazing.

 

[Tripolygon]

Basically every person who knows about the implications which means make a game are impressive for things like the
change of dimension in the game of ratchet or the level of detail in closeup in Horizon and all in the first wave of games.

Meanwhile people who think the graphics of a game is only define for how many operations part of the GPU can done
as theoretical max said "but I know things I readed in Twitter and saw it with my favorite youtuber". (You are cute.)

What makes me role my eyes far back behind my skull is the usual but Titanfall 2 did the thing where you can time travel by pressing a button. Well this is how it was done. Though dishonored 2 took it a step further.

And it was expensive to build, though not so much in terms of technology. “It’s a funny level because people often ask us how we do that, switching back and forth between timelines,” says Fukuda. “The answer is, well, we just made two buildings, one on top of the other, and teleport you up and down between them. It’s super simple.” But that meant that every location needed to be built twice, effectively doubling the workload.

Being able to load an entire world from SSD into RAM in less than 2 seconds is on a whole different league above that. This is why developers are psyched even if us regular players cannot imagine how amazing this is for developers.

 

[Games Dean]

I see AP quoted me from Twitter.

I'm 100% behind that tweet. Book it. Quote it. Snap a picture, frame it and hang it up in your living room. It WILL happen.

The lies we tell ourselves.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

Yooooo it'll be crazy if changing worlds and teleporting is like a button function like press R2 to go in portal and be in level 2-2 instead of level 2-1

Seeing that just tells me next gen will have alot of sci-fi games. I can see Naughty dog or Santa Monica making Looper/Blade Runner type games.There is definitely going to be Teleporting, Time & Space travel games. Next gen.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

OK remember the PlayStation symbols on the PS5?
Zoom in

Where are these images from?

I looked on original dualsense reveal on ps blog and cant see symbols. Were they hidden and then shown again, didnt see on recent vid or picbut maybe missed...?

 

[MasterCornholio]

those white panels easily pop off for again

Just going to add to this speculation.

Maybe removing the panels is how you install an additional SSD? I honestly don't see how the panel can be partially removed like the PS4s glossy panel but I can definitely see the whole thing coming off.

This could be how they are going to deal with multiple colors at launch assuming that happens of course.

 

[oldergamer]

After watching that Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart video for the nth time, I noticed something: we know those fast dimensional transitions are only possible thanks to PS5's super fast SSD, but did you notice that when he enters a portal that fractured dimension screen remains for about 2-3 seconds before an entire new area appears? Do you think that's some kind of loading screen, so the SSD loading is not instantaneous, or it was an intentional delay to avoid player disorientation due to fast scenery change?

I'm certain it was.

 

[azertydu91]

I knew it



/s

Wait was he in CGI ? Because I don't know if it is about the light but something felt weird with some faces.