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ResetEra deplatforms and bans Angry Joe for his TLOU2 review

Come on, the guy literally says: "he had it coming" in other words. There's plenty of posts like this in that thread with think veiled support for abuse. It was really sad to read people normalising the death threats to a guy because he's vocal on Twitter whether you liked his game or not.

I don't why why that user was banned but his assessment of some elements in this forum is not completely incorrect. Political forum here is empirically way more Trump and Tucker Carlson rather than Biden and John Oliver.

This is certainly true from what I've seen - it is definitely more Trump and Tucker Carlson. And I am no fan of either of them (or Biden really but we gotta do what we gotta do, John Oliver is great tho). I also agree that defending death threats or racism or sexism is bad to normalize - but it's not something I don't really see on a daily basis elsewhere on the internet so I just don't really pay attention to it.
 

Rien

Jelly Belly
Thats exactly what a racist would say!

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You got me
 

Kumomeme

Member
if you have even slightly different 'view' than them, you would still get banned for just being 'existed'


they chant for diversity and freedom of speech and yet enforced ironclad rule for sake of outer appearance to please certain agenda....perhaps the most genuine and biggest bigotry on internet.

they indeed love to use and labelling others using the word 'bigotry' without realizing thats what they actually are
 
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Era has nothing to do with it. Dude is annoying and trying too hard to get attention.

So being annoying now justifies being banned?

Should I contact the admin here and request you to be banned as well, should I find your posts annoying? Or should I instead do the unthinkable and momentous and simply hit that Ignore button?

If you want an entire forum tailored to your tastes and preferences, do not visit a public one.

I don't disagree with this. But this place has become very right leaning with the majority circle jerking each other about certain views. It is cool that everyone can say what they want, but the immature posts are all rather pointless and mean spirited. You get people who lean to the left being told to go to 'Reee' if they don't like it here. It isn't much different from era in the community aspect, but the modding is different in that it allows all views. It is just the people more to the left get drowned out and memed when they do appear.



Literally the first post.

1. To the claim this place has become very right-leaning, who exactly is stopping left leaning people from posting? Who exactly is stopping you from voicing your left leaning opinions?

2. Why should your assessment of how mature posts are dictate which get banned and which are allowed?

3. I haven't ever showed anyone the door, nor would I ever be in the position to do so. But you must realize once and for all that freedom of speech includes the freedom to say stupid and nasty things.

This bit is priceless:

It is just the people more to the left get drowned out and memed when they do appear.

Yes, you want equality of outcome. You want it across this forum. So even though no restrictions whatsoever are in place and any left-leaning poster can voice their opinion, you still want left-leaning opinions to be artificially inflated just so in the end, irrespective of voluntary participation, both sides get equal screen time.

This perfectly epitomizes the distorted sense of fairness a significant portion of the left has adopted.

But this one takes the cake:

Yes, they will all come to a forum with posters who call Neil Druckmann 'Neil Cuckman' and defend people attacking him with death threats and antisemitic posts.
Literally the first post.

I always find it interesting when an accusation is made but for some mysterious reason no quote is provided. Let me help you with that. Here's that first post:

Welcome to the culture you create. When you encourage people getting piled-on for ideas you don't like, don't be surprised when people do the same to you for the ideas they don't like.

Edit: spelling

While I will unequivocally condemn any death threats and petty insults, the above quoted post cannot be categorized as a defence of either. To sum it up, it's a You-made-your-bed-now-sleep-in-it kind of a post. "piled-on" has negative connotations. You and I may have wished for a condemnation. That doesn't mean this is an endorsement. The poster is commenting on the kind of online culture Neil has allegedly helped to create and is now being victimized by.

Again, this also epitomizes another problem with a significant portion of the left. Either you fully conform to their terms, opinions and language or you're cast as the devil incarnate.

Come on, the guy literally says: "he had it coming" in other words. There's plenty of posts like this in that thread with think veiled support for abuse. It was really sad to read people normalising the death threats to a guy because he's vocal on Twitter whether you liked his game or not.

Stop paraphrasing creatively and quote the allegedly offending posts, so people can judge for themselves. Generic accusations are difficult to assess. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether that first post constitutes endorsement of death threats or not.

I don't why why that user was banned but his assessment of some elements in this forum is not completely incorrect. Political forum here is empirically way more Trump and Tucker Carlson rather than Biden and John Oliver.

So what?
Who's stopping you from posting there and tilting the balance slightly more towards the left?
Ah, that's right.
No one is.

It does seem you and other left leaning members don't want to go to the bother of posting there, but nevertheless would still like the politics section to unfold as though you all did.

You're misguided here. Free speech is allowed on here only when you join the circle jerk. I have been warned on here for calling out the level of discussion. Got warned, threatened with a ban and had my comment deleted.

You've just contradicted yourself. A while a go you claimed that, unlike Era, moderation here allowed for different views. You said:

It is cool that everyone can say what they want,

Which is it then?

What did Drukkmann do to cause this?

If somebody was walking down a ally and got mugged, my reaction would be of concern for the person, rather than some condescending shite. Maybe that is just me, though.

Again, freedom of speech potentially opens the door to stupid, even evil opinions being voiced. You have got to come to terms with that.

This is certainly true from what I've seen - it is definitely more Trump and Tucker Carlson. And I am no fan of either of them (or Biden really but we gotta do what we gotta do, John Oliver is great tho). I also agree that defending death threats or racism or sexism is bad to normalize - but it's not something I don't really see on a daily basis elsewhere on the internet so I just don't really pay attention to it.

Please quote racist, sexist and death-threats-endorsing posts on GAF.
 
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cyber_ninja

Member
So being annoying now justifies being banned?

Should I contact the admin here and request you to be banned as well, should I find your posts annoying? Or should I instead do the unthinkable and momentous and simply hit that Ignore button?

Do whatever you want sunshine, follow your heart. I don't care.
 
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Shmunter

Member
This is certainly true from what I've seen - it is definitely more Trump and Tucker Carlson. And I am no fan of either of them (or Biden really but we gotta do what we gotta do, John Oliver is great tho). I also agree that defending death threats or racism or sexism is bad to normalize - but it's not something I don't really see on a daily basis elsewhere on the internet so I just don't really pay attention to it.
Conduct simply needs to be constructive in its criticism. Ones likes or dislikes cannot be prejudiced against as this is the essence of diversity.

The moderation on Neogaf is incredibly fair and of a high standard. Since joining I will admit to having 2 posts deleted by mods, and rightfully so. Lazy one liners adding nothing to the discussion but instead agitating others. Even if not directly intended as such, it’s on me to not presume context by the readers, it’s clear why the mods do what they do.

As always the quality of the conversation must retain a certain standard, the only thing that’s important is not to crush opinion while balancing it with a degree of freedom for boisterous banter and light ribbing. It’s what makes life a much more pleasant experience.
 

Inuteu

Member
Resetera attacking Tolkien for using Orcs in Lord of the Ring

Tolkien is a racist biggot confirmed



Does that mean The Elder Scroll is a racist game :pie_thinking:
for the TV show, Im hopping for beautiful black elves and transgender hobbits
 
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cormack12

Gold Member
So being annoying now justifies being banned? -wall of text

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This bit got proper stupid

Come on, the guy literally says: "he had it coming" in other words. There's plenty of posts like this in that thread with think veiled support for abuse. It was really sad to read people normalising the death threats to a guy because he's vocal on Twitter whether you liked his game or not.

I think we have forgotten what 'literally' means. He literally said this thing, if you paraphrase it like this, and stand on your head while wearing peppercorns in your ears on a night of the full moon. Like fucking witch doctors or soothseyers. I can divine from the entrails of this eviscerated molerat your true intentions fam.


Also, era has a new logo

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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I used to lurk that forum. I remember they put a cacodemon as the forum icon when Doom Eternal released, pretty cool.

Today I entered again and they have countless icons to gather woke points. Like, whats the point? Isnt it a videogame forum?
 

Blond

Banned
I tried to watch that review and Butthurt Jose should've deplatformed himself for it.

20 minutes in and it was the most annoying shit I've ever tried to watch, I don't know what he did to pad that review out for the remaining 25 minutes but I'm not gonna find out.
 
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Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
I tried to watch that review and Butthurt Jose should've deplatformed himself for it.

20 minutes in and it was the most annoying shit I've ever tried to watch, I don't know what he did to pad that review out for the remaining 25 minutes but I'm no gonna find out.
I loved the story of suicide squad.
Nuff said 🤣
 

luffie

Member
It's not a positive attitude I agree. But "reap what you sow" is not the same as defending them. It's like if someone gets mugged for walking down a dark alley I might say "well shit, what did you expect?" That's not exactly the same as saying "good on him for mugging your stupid ass".
"reap what you sow" is essentially the same meaning, there's no need to strawman here. The language for that response is bad no matter how you cut it.

Even people walking down a dark alley and getting mugged doesn't deserve that kind of response.
 

Hunnybun

Member
I was permabanned cos I was pissed off about the PS5 event being delayed.

I said I didn't care about the protests, it was all a big fuss and nothing would change.

Seems naive in retrospect but I was amazed to get permanently banned for that. Like, I didn't question the protests, I didn't question the injustice, I just said I didn't care ( I was exaggerating tbh cos I was so pissed off).

Literally all I really said was "this issue isn't a big deal to me". I already knew a lot of them on there were insane, but I'm ultra liberal generally, so the idea of being banned just for not caring about something still blew my mind.

It's a shame because for the most part there's plenty of decent discussion about games on there. I guess 80% of the posters just know never to say the wrong thing.
 

Astral Dog

Member


It's funny to laugh at this, but under it all this is almost exactly what would happen with a cult. Joe feels like he followed the rules perfectly and got excommunicated for a tiny mistake, and all his former "friends" are treating him like dog shit. And he cannot comprehend how this happened.

It's really more sad than funny. And the weird reverse parasocial dependence all these TGWTG guys have for their fans and supporters just made it easier for them to get pulled in and exponentially more painful for them when it all falls apart.

I feel a little bad for Joe, his former journalist 'friends'encouraging others to laugh at him on Twitter for something Resetera said, will only give more credibility to that place, time will tell if there is any real 'consequence for his heathen review
 
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Shmunter

Member
I was permabanned cos I was pissed off about the PS5 event being delayed.

I said I didn't care about the protests, it was all a big fuss and nothing would change.

Seems naive in retrospect but I was amazed to get permanently banned for that. Like, I didn't question the protests, I didn't question the injustice, I just said I didn't care ( I was exaggerating tbh cos I was so pissed off).

Literally all I really said was "this issue isn't a big deal to me". I already knew a lot of them on there were insane, but I'm ultra liberal generally, so the idea of being banned just for not caring about something still blew my mind.

It's a shame because for the most part there's plenty of decent discussion about games on there. I guess 80% of the posters just know never to say the wrong thing.
Of course the protests won’t change a thing.

In a country that relies on one of the 2 parties to gain political advantage from votes determined by the colour of your skin; this is a political football that is beyond valuable and will be rolled out each time. A political vested interest to maintain division.

Not seeing the fundamental angle to it is naive and childlike. Aka, useful woke like the idealistic no life experience children running the other site. They’ll grow out of it.
 

KiNeMz

Banned
We don't need to deplatform anyone. We don't play that game. I'm happy for re erra to exist. It's a free internet and re era is allowed to be. The Ree will run it's due course. We don't have to worry about it. Let it be. Patience my fellow gamers. Patience.
 
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Bog

Junior Ace
I bet they’d even ban someone for saying a character in TLOU2 was boring and had no personality, because apparently that character is trans.
 
Conduct simply needs to be constructive in its criticism. Ones likes or dislikes cannot be prejudiced against as this is the essence of diversity.

The moderation on Neogaf is incredibly fair and of a high standard. Since joining I will admit to having 2 posts deleted by mods, and rightfully so. Lazy one liners adding nothing to the discussion but instead agitating others. Even if not directly intended as such, it’s on me to not presume context by the readers, it’s clear why the mods do what they do.

As always the quality of the conversation must retain a certain standard, the only thing that’s important is not to crush opinion while balancing it with a degree of freedom for boisterous banter and light ribbing. It’s what makes life a much more pleasant experience.




So being annoying now justifies being banned?

Should I contact the admin here and request you to be banned as well, should I find your posts annoying? Or should I instead do the unthinkable and momentous and simply hit that Ignore button?

If you want an entire forum tailored to your tastes and preferences, do not visit a public one.



1. To the claim this place has become very right-leaning, who exactly is stopping left leaning people from posting? Who exactly is stopping you from voicing your left leaning opinions?

2. Why should your assessment of how mature posts are dictate which get banned and which are allowed?

3. I haven't ever showed anyone the door, nor would I ever be in the position to do so. But you must realize once and for all that freedom of speech includes the freedom to say stupid and nasty things.

This bit is priceless:



Yes, you want equality of outcome. You want it across this forum. So even though no restrictions whatsoever are in place and any left-leaning poster can voice their opinion, you still want left-leaning opinions to be artificially inflated just so in the end, irrespective of voluntary participation, both sides get equal screen time.

This perfectly epitomizes the distorted sense of fairness a significant portion of the left has adopted.

But this one takes the cake:




I always find it interesting when an accusation is made but for some mysterious reason no quote is provided. Let me help you with that. Here's that first post:



While I will unequivocally condemn any death threats and petty insults, the above quoted post cannot be categorized as a defence of either. To sum it up, it's a You-made-your-bed-now-sleep-in-it kind of a post. "piled-on" has negative connotations. You and I may have wished for a condemnation. That doesn't mean this is an endorsement. The poster is commenting on the kind of online culture Neil has allegedly helped to create and is now being victimized by.

Again, this also epitomizes another problem with a significant portion of the left. Either you fully conform to their terms, opinions and language or you're cast as the devil incarnate.



Stop paraphrasing creatively and quote the allegedly offending posts, so people can judge for themselves. Generic accusations are difficult to assess. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether that first post constitutes endorsement of death threats or not.



So what?
Who's stopping you from posting there and tilting the balance slightly more towards the left?
Ah, that's right.
No one is.

It does seem you and other left leaning members don't want to go to the bother of posting there, but nevertheless would still like the politics section to unfold as though you all did.



You've just contradicted yourself. A while a go you claimed that, unlike Era, moderation here allowed for different views. You said:



Which is it then?



Again, freedom of speech potentially opens the door to stupid, even evil opinions being voiced. You have got to come to terms with that.



Please quote racist, sexist and death-threats-endorsing posts on GAF.


I said in my previous post that I’ve always seen anything truly explicitly bigoted banned here. I haven’t read the other thread, I’m sure people have gotten away with pushing the limit a little bit from what I’ve seen but regardless of that I definitely believe that Resetera is the “toxic” forum as opposed to here - I’d much rather have this place be right leaning than what resetera does - I was having a debate on the slogan ACAB and the amount of people who dogpiled on me and were disrespectful/aggressive despite my being totally respectful and measured in the way I questioned the usefulness of “All Cops Are Bastards” and also accused me of arguing in bad faith or having some hidden agenda. It was honestly crazy. I didn’t ever get banned there but it weirded me out sufficiently enough that I asked to be gone.
 

Herr Edgy

Member
if you have even slightly different 'view' than them, you would still get banned for just being 'existed'


they chant for diversity and freedom of speech and yet enforced ironclad rule for sake of outer appearance to please certain agenda....perhaps the most genuine and biggest bigotry on internet.

they indeed love to use and labelling others using the word 'bigotry' without realizing thats what they actually are
That's a point I see brought up again and again. Where do SJWs 'chant for freedom of speech'?
I've never seen any. If anything, they are calling for 'minority voices to be heard'. Not 'everyone is allowed to say whatever floats their boat'. It's the opposite, but they aren't hypocritical about it.
 

Astral Dog

Member
I used to lurk that forum. I remember they put a cacodemon as the forum icon when Doom Eternal released, pretty cool.

Today I entered again and they have countless icons to gather woke points. Like, whats the point? Isnt it a videogame forum?
Thats alright when its pride month it looks pretty

Though i don't get their weird fist
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Is that some call to revolution? Maybe a BLM icon? im not familiar with it 😕
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Angry Joe will probably get another chance, the resetera gods said "Let's Ban Angry Joe" and that's what happened.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
"reap what you sow" is essentially the same meaning

Cuckmann has spend all this years with his culture war and calling people who don't like his political designed characters and his political agendas as sexist, racist, transphobic and whatnot.

If he receives backlash, then that's precisely to be expected. Nobody is justifying death threats (even empty internet death threats), don't be silly. We are just pointing out how when you throw ad hominems at people, it's possible they throw them back at you.
 

Boss Mog

Member
That place is just a circle jerk for people with zero emotional intelligence. Posters getting perm banned for the most annondyne posts imaginable.

The worst things about the Internet is that it's enabled idiots to unite and give them a voice. Cancel culture is a manifestation of idiots being given a platform and being taken seriously by decent society.
Thats alright when its pride month it looks pretty

Though i don't get their weird fist
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Is that some call to revolution? Maybe a BLM icon? im not familiar with it 😕
It's the Black Power sign. A black supremacist symbol.
 

Shmunter

Member
Cuckmann has spend all this years with his culture war and calling people who don't like his political designed characters and his political agendas as sexist, racist, transphobic and whatnot.

If he receives backlash, then that's precisely to be expected. Nobody is justifying death threats (even empty internet death threats), don't be silly. We are just pointing out how when you throw ad hominems at people, it's possible they throw them back at you.
Has he done that?

I know he publicly held hands with the feminist woman, but I’m not aware of any personal activism outside of that.
 

Caffeine

Member
joe doesnt need to worry hes got more foot traffic from twitter and reddit and i'm sure hes doing fine on youtube alone anyway.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
Has he done that?

I know he publicly held hands with the feminist woman, but I’m not aware of any personal activism outside of that.

Yes, he said that doesn't want sexist, racist or homophobes to buy his games when faced with criticism. He has said they had to ask some sexist focus tester to leave because he complained about Nathan's daughter.

And don't forget that beautiful conference in which he showed some female videogame designs of other videogames and called them sexist, while claiming he had this secret agenda of making the industry in line with the third wave feminism approved designs.

His activism it's pretty well documented. People think the character designs are just a coincidence, and then come with the typical"oh, you hate a character just because he is gay". But Neil has already outlined publicly how he pushes his Anita Sarkeesian based agenda on character design alone. It's incredibly obvious, yet some people still want to play dumb and claim that there is no agenda, even ignoring that the creator himself is literally telling you that there is an agenda.
 
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Ornlu

Banned
Thats alright when its pride month it looks pretty

Though i don't get their weird fist
0osysl0.png


Is that some call to revolution? Maybe a BLM icon? im not familiar with it 😕
It's the Black Power sign. A black supremacist symbol.

Black Supremacists and White Supremacists use it, with the hand colored accordingly. I guess a purple one would be Thanos/Barney/Grimace Supremacist. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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