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The Last of Us Part II - Enhanced Performance Patch | PS5 - Coming for free TODAY

GymWolf

Member
Loot an enemy and watch the same couple of variations of turning him around and going through the clothes. Or interacting with anything, Arthur just has to place himself in a particular position before triggering the animation. Compare this to TLOU 2, it's pretty great for example how Ellie can pick up things behind her while crouching and moving at the same time.
I think that's on purpose, the game wants you to stop and allign with the body for max realism and heaviness, tlou2 is hyper realistic but still more gamey compared to rdr2.

Is it the right choice or more immersive? That depends on the individual.

But like i said, tlou2 has superior animations for some things, they are both god tier.
 

GymWolf

Member


i don't remember arthur doing shit like this.

That's because tlou2 combat is far more melee oriented than rdr2, it has far more moves variations, i was not talking about that.

Try to do a combat scenario in rdr2 mixing shooting and melee and see how it goes.

Melee in rdr2 is mostly for some specific mission where you are forced to use it or just to fuck with npcs during the free roam, it is ridicolous to see a cowboy fighting melee against 20 people who shoot at him, in tlou2 half of the enemies have melee weapons and you can stealth you way through and get close to them, rdr2 combat scenarios are all scripted and you can't really use stealth or melee that much.

Tlou2 has the far superior combat system overall, if this was not clear on my part.
 

vkbest

Member
That's because tlou2 combat is far more melee oriented than rdr2, it has far more moves variations, i was not talking about that.

Try to do a combat scenario in rdr2 mixing shooting and melee and see how it goes.

Melee in rdr2 is mostly for some specific mission where you are forced to use it or just to fuck with npcs during the free roam, it is ridicolous to see a cowboy fighting melee against 20 people who shoot at him, in tlou2 half of the enemies have melee weapons and you can stealth you way through and get close to them, rdr2 combat scenarios are all scripted and you can't really use stealth or melee that much.

Tlou2 has the far superior combat system overall, if this was not clear on my part.

RDR2 controls are crap with that huge input lag the game have. At least in consoles, other game with terrible input lag is Witcher 3. That is because those games are gorgeous, they have plenty of frames to post processing.
 
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GymWolf

Member
RDR2 controls are crap with that huge input lag the game have. At least in consoles, other game with terrible input lag is Witcher 3. That is because those games are gorgeous, they have plenty of frames to post processing.
Sure, controls are crap in rdr2, never said otherwise.

The pc version is better tho (still clunky as hell compared to majority of tps)

But i don't think it's because of the graphics, a lot of games with great graphics have no input lag at all, also rockstar aiming for that slow, heavy type of realism in their games.
 
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vkbest

Member
Sure, controls are crap in rdr2, never said otherwise.

The pc version is better tho (still clunky as hell compared to majority of tps)

But i don't think it's because of the graphics, a lot of games with great graphics have no input lag at all, also rockstar aiming for that slow, heavy type of realism in their games.

They are using those frames to interpolate good quality animations and more post processing stuff. Why do you think that even on PC the game have terrible input lag compared with other games?
 

Riky

$MSFT
You know shit is going sideways for your console of choice when the best thing it has going for it being able to Plants vs Zombies at 120fps. Clearly I want to pay $500 for a new console so I can play games *checks notes* a bunch of fucking Assassin's Creed and Lego games at 60 fps.

That's just a hack for double framerate or even quadruple that's why they can do 74 games at once, try comparing to Gears 5 which was patched with Global Illumination, higher settings not present on PC and 120fps multiplayer.
 

AnotherOne

Member
That's just a hack for double framerate or even quadruple that's why they can do 74 games at once, try comparing to Gears 5 which was patched with Global Illumination, higher settings not present on PC and 120fps multiplayer.
PC ended up getting those XSX enhancements.
 

Rikkori

Member
I’d like to see CDPR design a game for pre 2013 hardware... oh wait they did and its still borderline unplayable at that hardware.

It’s maybe not the absolute best looking game but its position as a technical marvel on very limited hardware is paralleled by very few.
Who cares how it runs on PS4? Pay attention to what's being discussed, go back and read my first post.
Am I doing this right?
You are doing it right, if right is flagging yourself as a fanboy. I always appreciate people making themselves known like that, so I don't waste my time.
Nice photomode shots

Now come on show us some 2077 gameplay shots with characters in the distance, don’t be shy
CP photomode doesn't mess with lods/res like Insomniac bud, what you see there is same as during gameplay.
And zoom on them at 400%.
Not zoomed in at all, go watch the DF video it's a regular gameplay screenshot.
How about you compare The last of us 2 with Cyberpunk PS4 Screenshots? What's the point of using high-end pc shots and then compare it to a fucking PS4 game?!?

I played both games on my OG PS4. I know how both titles look and run...
See what I told skit_data, this isn't about apples vs apples. Check the conversation tree, there's a logic to it.
 
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ManaByte

Gold Member
Have you played the game? Did you see all the flashbacks pre-body building? Abby is a woman. It’s not abnormal to be ultra-fit. She takes it doggy styled? Have you ever had sex in your life?
Of course they didn’t play the game and see those scenes. The people who keep posting the Abby stuff are just parroting bullshit they get from performance outrage YouTubers about the game.

Again, Abby > Ellie.
 

GuinGuin

Banned
Loot an enemy and watch the same couple of variations of turning him around and going through the clothes. Or interacting with anything, Arthur just has to place himself in a particular position before triggering the animation. Compare this to TLOU 2, it's pretty great for example how Ellie can pick up things behind her while crouching and moving at the same time.

No to mention the AI. Fight the same group 100 times and you might see them take 100 different routes.
 

Woggleman

Member
I love RDR2 but the controls are it's weak spot. TLOU2 manages to have realistic animations while still being fun and enjoyable to control. People who make more realistic and grounded kind of games should study it.
 
you know when you buy a new gpu for pc and all your old games magically run enhanced by it for free?

yeah... no need to hype it up, Sony. they all should be running better...
 
you know when you buy a new gpu for pc and all your old games magically run enhanced by it for free?

yeah... no need to hype it up, Sony. they all should be running better...
I'm tired of last gen. I want a new generation of games. I don't really wanna play my old games, but faster.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
still the cost to patch them would be like a few weeks of a few devs at most. Seems absurd to not just go ahead and do it
It's definitely absurd. I have no idea whats going on over at Sony, but they seem to have gotten their shit together since the disastrous April. They are far more talkative. They have patched two games now. So hopefully they have learned that they cant be complacent anymore.

Hopefully this means Horizon, Uncharted and BB are next.

P.S I saw a bunch of Sony execs on twitter hyping up the games they have in the works. That Asad Qaibash guy retweeted the Herman Hurst quote of 25 first games in development, and then another Sony exec retweeted him hyping up their 3rd party exclusives. I just hope they do more than just talk and have an event lined up for early June like they did last year despite not going to E3.
 
It's definitely absurd. I have no idea whats going on over at Sony, but they seem to have gotten their shit together since the disastrous April. They are far more talkative. They have patched two games now. So hopefully they have learned that they cant be complacent anymore.

Hopefully this means Horizon, Uncharted and BB are next.

P.S I saw a bunch of Sony execs on twitter hyping up the games they have in the works. That Asad Qaibash guy retweeted the Herman Hurst quote of 25 first games in development, and then another Sony exec retweeted him hyping up their 3rd party exclusives. I just hope they do more than just talk and have an event lined up for early June like they did last year despite not going to E3.
If it's so easy to unlock the fps in games, then why don't they just take a few minutes and put in the code and make everyone happy? Oh, that's right because it's not always that easy.
 

IbizaPocholo

NeoGAFs Kent Brockman


Check out 10 minutes of The Last of Us Part 2 running on PS5 with the new 60fps patch released by Naughty Dog.

The Last of Us Part II was originally released for PS4 in June 2020, and now Naughty Dog has released the free 1.08 update patch that will boost the game to 60fps for those playing via backwards compatibility on PS5. While this gameplay footage was captured on the PS5 console at 4k 60fps, The Last of Us Part II only runs at a native 2560x1440 resolution like it's PS4 Pro counterpart according to Digital Foundry. The new update also gives you the option to switch back to 30fps if you’d prefer.
 
Yeah that part with the brother was bad writing at his best...

At the beginning when ellie has nothing to lose he was all "don't even try to revenge him, it is too dungerous"

When ellie has a family and a fucking child he is like "you are not gonna avenge him? You ungrateful piece of shit", i mean, wtf?! Who wrote this? A drunk man?!
I really wonder how much logic was allowed into the narrative process, vs shoehorned attempts at cultural relevance. Almost every character has this fake aura of being cool, like they all have the same stupid mind.
 

Shmunter

Member
Yeah that part with the brother was bad writing at his best...

At the beginning when ellie has nothing to lose he was all "don't even try to revenge him, it is too dungerous"

When ellie has a family and a fucking child he is like "you are not gonna avenge him? You ungrateful piece of shit", i mean, wtf?! Who wrote this? A drunk man?!
That’s the only part of the story that was puzzling to me. I thought I missed something to drive him to such a 180.

May look up online to see if there is any rationale to it.
 

Vick

Member
Now compare to this... c'mon bruh.

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Because this is how direct feed gameplay screenshots of TLOUII look like.
I've got hundreds more.

Dare to compare how the games look in motion? Got plenty of videos as well.

You are doing it right, if right is flagging yourself as a fanboy. I always appreciate people making themselves known like that, so I don't waste my time.

CP photomode doesn't mess with lods/res like Insomniac bud, what you see there is same as during gameplay.
Insomniac does that? With this IQ in-game on PS4Pro?

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Legit question, never used Photo-Mode.

Not zoomed in at all, go watch the DF video it's a regular gameplay screenshot.
Is this why half HUD is missing?

See what I told skit_data, this isn't about apples vs apples. Check the conversation tree, there's a logic to it.
The logic being that, in response to someone calling TLOUII the best looking game, you seriously took zoomed in Youtube grabs of a game running on a $399 console from 2013 and compared it to 4K Photo-Mode screenshots of a game running at unknown fps on a 2021 PC of which graphic card alone costs more than the entire, near decade old console?

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That being said, Cyberpunk maxed out can look absolutely amazing and it's also a multiplatform, dynamic free-roam. Tech wise, dynamic GI for the torch is the only truly impressive feature of TLOUII lighting.
 

Woggleman

Member
The reason why Tommy at the start was against going was because he was trying to do it himself and keep Ellie from going. He even leaves Maria a note telling her to stop Ellie from going. At the end he is disabled plus he lost Maria and pretty much everything so Ellie going after Abby was the only way he could get his revenge. At that point he was a broken man who didn't care anymore. The Tommy at the start of the game was not the same Tommy we saw at the end. There was probably also some resentment that Ellie and Dina had the life that him and Maria will never have.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Do not envy the team at ND who'll need to top this with their current gen project(s)... Going to take a crazy amount of work.
 

Shmunter

Member
Do not envy the team at ND who'll need to top this with their current gen project(s)... Going to take a crazy amount of work.
The ssd asset ability will take them to the next level. What they’ve done here already looks like something that shouldn’t be possible without mass streaming. The tech is amazeballs.

The game legit looks like a CGI rendered realistic movie to me. All else can look great, but always gamey.

Ratchet and Clank not withstanding.
 
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