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[phant0m]

Normal price for the first product
If it's successful enough the next version will be better and cheaper

Yup. Looks awesome tbh but way too much $. Will wait for the improved version at $1999 in 2026

 

[BacklashWave534]

Tim Croock at it again. Check your email is AR for the low price of $3499.00

 

[saintjules]

Sounds like the PS3 price reveal.

Yup. Looks awesome tbh but way too much $. Will wait for the improved version at $1999 in 2026

Tell me where your time travel machine is

 

[Stare-Bear]

Sounds like the PS3 price reveal.






Tell me where your time travel machine is

It reminded me of the Xbox One price reveal...

 

[analog_future]

Functionally it looks like touch free IPad AR glasses. Very cool but niche and as others have said, doesn't really solve a problem that people want fixed.

Interaction with your immediate family without eye contact is not going to be popular....

The external OLED display allows for passthrough and shows the wearer's eyes in realtime to those surrounding them.

Except the damn price. Sorry, but this is way too much for an unproven platform and you damn well know it.

Oh, it's absolutely an unproven platform. AR/VR in general is an unproven platform.

I really don't know if the Vision Pro is going to find an audience or not. But if it can't, then I don't see VR taking off any time soon. This is going to be a major inflection point for the technology as a whole.


Also, let's not forget that Apple has already announced that they're working on a cheaper non "Pro" version of this headset as well. My guess is it wouldn't include a battery pack, would have a cheaper build quality, and maybe not include the high fidelity spacial audio.

 

[Sethbacca]

How long before egirls start selling stereoscopic POV in room experiences to dudes with this level of quality. Shit's gonna end up like that movie Strange Days from the 90s (underrated classic btw)

 

[diffusionx]

Sounds like the PS3 price reveal.






Tell me where your time travel machine is

anyone else amazed and impressed at the size of Apple's balls where they tell their simps to fly out to Cupertino and then make them watch a video lol

 

[Zannegan]

What a bizzare scene. I wonder what the callers are looking at when doing video conference with someone wearing the headset

Looking at an uncomfortably uncanny avatar.

 

[Atrus]

2k before the graphics card means you got ripped off.

Just because I’m not some poor fuck scrounging for the bare minimum doesn’t mean I got ripped off. I’m well aware that paying for large LCDs for my AIO is unnecessary but I’m not you, I have money to spare.

 

[Trunx81]

I know that the price includes the Apple Tax, but on a more serious take, I find it justified. Hear me out:

• it´s a totally new product, so they had to create the tech, the software, all from scratch
• not to speak of the engineering and the quality of the materials
• while knowing that they take a huge risk with this glasses: Others (google, MS) tried it before and failed. Facebook is struggling on the VR market.
• The high price is Apple minimizing the risks. You KNOW that they are gambeling, otherwise they would have secured higher production masses, shrinking the costs

 

[Senua]

Just because I’m not some poor fuck scrounging for the bare minimum doesn’t mean I got ripped off. I’m well aware that paying for large LCDs for my AIO is unnecessary but I’m not you, I have money to spare.

Real classy

 

[Fredrik]

with this being called the vision Pro I wonder if a cheaper version will come down the line just called apple vision.


they have defiantly nailed it with this just the price point is a bit erm steep


From what I have seen this is the best VR headset to date though

Hmm yeah that seems logical going by their other products. But then I think it’s all backwards to launch the Pro first. Imagine Sony launching PS5 Pro first at $899 and 2 years later the normal PS5 at $499. It hurts the launch, the high price is what people will talk about. There is so much I don’t understand with this launch.

 

[Kerotan]

Apple is a social run by Aliens to see how much Humans are willing to spend.

 

[Fredrik]

That’s the sound of this gif

 

[E-Cat]

How long before egirls start selling stereoscopic POV in room experiences to dudes with this level of quality. Shit's gonna end up like that movie Strange Days from the 90s (underrated classic btw)

Masturbating in front of a mirror is gonna work great.

 

[Sethbacca]

Masturbating in front of a mirror is gonna work great.

Unironically, making and consuming porn will probably be the biggest use case. The definition so good you'll be able to see every STD.

 

[Justin9mm]

I can't believe ppl are comparing this to PSVR2 and other conventional VR headsets. This is a very different AR/VR headset. The tech in this is and quality is vastly superior. Is it too expensive? Fuck yes!

But that's the same with every new 1st gen iteration of evolutionary technology. Apple know what they are doing. They know most consumers can't afford this but someone has to be the guinea pigs to take the tech forward. The wealthy will buy it, it will be elitist to own one and they will be the pioneers in marketing this by word of mouth and just like everything else, price over time will go down and the tech will become affordable to the average consumer and become mainstream.

I don't use Apple and I don't really like their ecosystem, but if any company can push the evolution of VR/AR tech to become mainstream it would be Apple. They are a juggernaut in branded tech.

 

[phil_t98]

Hmm yeah that seems logical going by their other products. But then I think it’s all backwards to launch the Pro first. Imagine Sony launching PS5 Pro first at $899 and 2 years later the normal PS5 at $499. It hurts the launch, the high price is what people will talk about. There is so much I don’t understand with this launch.

This is apple of coarse and the product isn’t launching till next year. They have another event in a couple of months which will launch new iPhones and could be something else there

Also the PS5 and the pro will be different hardware , if apple do a cut back version of the vision it will be the same hardware just slight cut back ala iPhone 14 and the pro models

 

[E-Cat]

I can't believe ppl are comparing this to PSVR2 and other conventional VR headsets. This is a very different AR/VR headset. The tech in this is and quality is vastly superior. Is it too expensive? Fuck yes!

But that's the same with every new 1st gen iteration of evolutionary technology. Apple know what they are doing. They know most consumers can't afford this but someone has to be the guinea pigs to take the tech forward. The wealthy will buy it, it will be elitist to own one and they will be the pioneers in marketing this by word of mouth and just like everything else, price over time will go down and the tech will become affordable to the average consumer and become mainstream.

I don't use Apple and I don't really like their ecosystem, but if any company can push the evolution of VR/AR tech to become mainstream it would be Apple. They are a juggernaut in branded tech.

This shit is so much beyond PSVR2 from a hardware, UI and ecosystem perspective, it's not even funny. Obviously, the PSVR2 has the edge on games, but this is not really aimed towards gamers.

 

[Renoir]

so have we reach Johnyy Quest lvl of Vr?
Are we ready for Quest World?
Is this what is going to put us in the world of Wall-E??
Is this the Demolition man fuck simulation??

I think we have arrived. Remeber this is the entry point, each one after is going to be better.

 

[E-Cat]

nm

 

[E-Cat]

Unless Apple is using different OLED panels than everyone else, you won't be getting OLED perfect blacks in VR. To deal with massive near-black smearing, VR manufacturers raise the black floor quite a lot, above the threshold where it's most notticeable (forgot how this method is called but it has its name).

They are, this is not a regular OLED but a micro-OLED. Postage stamp sized screens with subpixels in the low microns.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

What do people think will be the sellthrough rate on this? I cant see with that price, it selling more than 1.5m to 2m units.

 

[E-Cat]

What do people think will be the sellthrough rate on this? I cant see with that price, it selling more than 1.5m to 2m units.

lol that would be amazing. Per the law of price elasticity, a $1,500 headset would then probably sell tens of millions of units.

 

[Interfectum]

What do people think will be the sellthrough rate on this? I cant see with that price, it selling more than 1.5m to 2m units.

It will easily sell 2 million units between businesses and consumers. The question is how far above 2 million does it go and do those 2 million consumers stick around. My guess is most businesses will toss this to the curb relatively quickly when they find out it brings nothing of merit and consumers get bored and go back to a normal TV.

 

[Fredrik]

My guess is most businesses will toss this to the curb relatively quickly

Then that’s where I’ll be waiting!

 

[BootsLoader]

It’s getting worse and worse.

 

[StereoVsn]

How long before egirls start selling stereoscopic POV in room experiences to dudes with this level of quality. Shit's gonna end up like that movie Strange Days from the 90s (underrated classic btw)

Love that movie. And we are inching close to some "interesting" Cyberpunk distopia times, that's for sure.

 

[E-Cat]

So, the passthrough rate is 12 milliseconds, and another bullet point says you're getting 1 billion pixels per second from the external cameras. Does that mean that the passthrough resolution is 12 MP @ 83 fps, or a little over half the device's native resolution? (I'm not saying this is unimpressive, just trying to pin down the number)

 

[diffusionx]

It’s getting worse and worse.

So stupid. Consider buying the dip. Apple's business has not fundamentally changed. They're going to sell a ridiculous number of phones, laptops, tablets, etc. this year. They also announced new computers (MBA 15", Mac Studio, and Mac Pro) that will do well. Even if the Vision Pro is total bomba none of that changes. If Vision Pro is successful then they just opened up a brand new revenue stream worth billions of dollars, and people will kick themselves that they missed buying Apple when it was $180.

 

[Dr. Claus]

It’s getting worse and worse.

This really isn't as bad as you are trying to make it out to be. This has happened before and they always bounce back within a few weeks. If this downward trend continues past that - then it is "getting worse and worse".

 

[E-Cat]

I assume this handtracking works in the dark?

"Infrared flood illuminators work with the external sensors to enhance hand tracking performance in low-light conditions."

 

[E-Cat]

It’s getting worse and worse.

Not even down 1%, pffft! This fits within normal daily fluctuation, even without a 'buy the rumor, sell the news' market dynamic.

 

[BootsLoader]

Not even down 1%, pffft! This fits within normal daily fluctuation, even without a 'buy the rumor, sell the news' market dynamic.

Yesterday, it was around 185$ before the Event.

 

[Fredrik]

So stupid. Consider buying the dip. Apple's business has not fundamentally changed. They're going to sell a ridiculous number of phones, laptops, tablets, etc. this year. They also announced new computers (MBA 15", Mac Studio, and Mac Pro) that will do well. Even if the Vision Pro is total bomba none of that changes. If Vision Pro is successful then they just opened up a brand new revenue stream worth billions of dollars, and people will kick themselves that they missed buying Apple when it was $180.

If you just want money, go with Nvidia. That stock is paying for all my hobbies, been buying and selling and rebuying and selling again etc for years. The stock is up 165% this year.

 

[E-Cat]

Yesterday, it was around 185$ before the Event.

That's normal, it has probably less to do with the product itself than call option gamblers exiting their speculative plays.

 

[Buggy Loop]

1976 Apple I : Too expensive!
1984 MacIntosh : Too expensive!
1991 PowerBook : Too expensive!
1998 iMac : Too expensive!
2001 iPod : Too expensive!
2006 iMac/Macbook : Too expensive!
2007 Apple TV : Too expensive!
2007 iPhone : Too expensive!
2008 Macbook air : Too expensive!
2010 iPad : Too expensive!
2015 Watch : Too expensive!
2018 HomePod : Too expensive!
2024 Vision pro : Too expensive!

Add a sprinkle of "what does this provide vs competition" and "Apple is out of their minds! DOA!" over almost all these product stacks and you have these solid investors and thinkers that proclaimed Apple's doom for decades

Meanwhile, Apple is valuated at 2.81 Trillion USD

You don't understand products nor the market. Just like Switch predictions in 2017 around here.

"Has to focus on gaming!" - oh yeah, look where that got. How many Half Life Alyx you have to develop to move the needle? Mainstream doesn't give a fuck to control these complex games with controllers in a basement corner for your Valve Index setup. It's niche as fuck. Look, i love VR gaming, but it's completely niche. Chasing that market and that market only is a dead end. Even Meta understands this, not for nothing that Quest pro & Quest 3 are going AR. Gaming is a side project for these companies from now on.

Just like Quest pro → Quest 3 in prices over the span of a year
The non Vision pro version is probably gonna be iPhone price range and from then on, Apple will eat the market. Any headsets staying "pure" VR will be <1% niche much like Steam hardware survey headsets. Meta has a chance to compete if they hurry up with a Quest pro 2 as high end.
It's expensive now, it will plummet in price soon enough. micro-OLED production is super expensive now.

You have headsets with micro-OLED in the 1800 nits range (too dim for pancake lenses), half resolution, no standalone chips (let alone an M2), no batteries, no inside out tracking (need Steam base station), no AR, no eye tracking and they sell for $999. Once you go high end AR you're double the price of Vision pro. Anyone not seeing where this product line is heading in 3-5 years from now, will look back to the unveiling threads and make a big "GUH".

I'm not even buying this headset with a 10 foot pole on first iteration, but not seeing the big picture of this product stack is a bit surprising from a forum of so called geeks.

 

[dem]

LOL at posting stock charts where the price has BARELY moved...

idiots

 

[Swauny Jones]

And this is the starting price for the product. I wonder what add ons they'll be adding to really beef up this device. Maybe an improved battery?

 

[Buggy Loop]

Not even down 1%, pffft! This fits within normal daily fluctuation, even without a 'buy the rumor, sell the news' market dynamic.

They're about to die!

 

[64bitmodels]

1976 Apple I : Too expensive!
1984 MacIntosh : Too expensive!
1991 PowerBook : Too expensive!
1998 iMac : Too expensive!
2001 iPod : Too expensive!
2006 iMac/Macbook : Too expensive!
2007 Apple TV : Too expensive!
2007 iPhone : Too expensive!
2008 Macbook air : Too expensive!
2010 iPad : Too expensive!
2015 Watch : Too expensive!
2018 HomePod : Too expensive!
2024 Vision pro : Too expensive!

Add a sprinkle of "what does this provide vs competition" and "Apple is out of their minds! DOA!" over almost all these product stacks and you have these solid investors and thinkers that proclaimed Apple's doom for decades

Meanwhile, Apple is valuated at 2.81 Trillion USD

You don't understand products nor the market. Just like Switch predictions in 2017 around here.

"Has to focus on gaming!" - oh yeah, look where that got. How many Half Life Alyx you have to develop to move the needle? Mainstream doesn't give a fuck to control these complex games with controllers in a basement corner for your Valve Index setup. It's niche as fuck. Look, i love VR gaming, but it's completely niche. Chasing that market and that market only is a dead end. Even Meta understands this, not for nothing that Quest pro & Quest 3 are going AR. Gaming is a side project for these companies from now on.

Just like Quest pro → Quest 3 in prices over the span of a year
The non Vision pro version is probably gonna be iPhone price range and from then on, Apple will eat the market. Any headsets staying "pure" VR will be <1% niche much like Steam hardware survey headsets. Meta has a chance to compete if they hurry up with a Quest pro 2 as high end.
It's expensive now, it will plummet in price soon enough. micro-OLED production is super expensive now.

You have headsets with micro-OLED in the 1800 nits range (too dim for pancake lenses), half resolution, no standalone chips (let alone an M2), no batteries, no inside out tracking (need Steam base station), no AR, no eye tracking and they sell for $999. Once you go high end AR you're double the price of Vision pro. Anyone not seeing where this product line is heading in 3-5 years from now, will look back to the unveiling threads and make a big "GUH".

I'm not even buying this headset with a 10 foot pole on first iteration, but not seeing the big picture of this product stack is a bit surprising from a forum of so called geeks.

ok but sunglasses size tho muh sunglasses size!!!

 

[darrylgorn]

It’s getting worse and worse.

It's a very small fluctuation for them.

EDIT: I am a dead horse. Please stop beating me.

 

[Buggy Loop]

ok but sunglasses size tho muh sunglasses size!!!

Oh yea, can't forget that meme.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

Don't call this thing VR, I don't even know what to call it, might as well just be APPLER.

I mean I am definitely interested in seeing it/trying it, but fuck me what I would give for that headset just with the (inside)screens/speakers/cameras for inside-out tracking that I could plug into my PC to play VR games.

 

[64bitmodels]

Oh yea, can't forget that meme.

it's moreso that VR wouldn't as cool, presentable or as appealing if it was JUST a boring ass regular pair of glasses. They don't even fully cover your vision (VERY immersion breaking) yet people here keep acting like it's the future. What sci fi show have people been watching to sit here and act like that's what VR needs?
Not to mention it'd be hard to seperate digital world from IRL when the thing you use to wear it is so light and unnoticeable. On the topic of being light it can easily be broken and fall on the floor.

Like would you rather have a cool, amazing high tech piece of sci fi engineering on your head...? or some fucking sunglasses you can get from QT for 15 dollars?
it doesn't need to be some tiny dinky ass pair of glasses. It just needs to be light and comfortable. Like some regular ski goggles

 

[ResilientBanana]

The headset looks pretty damn advanced and actually has other functions other than gaming. This is probably the way to go, but that price is insane and should include a full OS.

 

[CobraAB]

This looks like a great first generation product. I'm really excited to see where it will be in 5 years. I hope we'll eventually get this:

something you feel comfortable wearing in the public. I'd love to use something like that while being at the gym or in a bus.

But for now I'm loving what Apple presented. Going for a crazy price tag and delivering something that really feels like the next step hopefully keeps people interested in the future of this tech.

Going to take more than 5 years to get to that me thinks.

 

[diffusionx]

The headset looks pretty damn advanced and actually has other functions other than gaming. This is probably the way to go, but that price is insane and should include a full OS.

it does include a full OS (and a full M2 CPU), did you watch the presentation?

 

[The Fartist]

Oh yea, can't forget that meme.

Ah, yes, the first thing to go through my mind as I'm dying: "I wish I had played more VR games"

 

[SF Kosmo]

Beats $6.5k Varjo XR-3

“bUT whY is iT exPENsive?”

Ok, but being really good at letting me look at my living room may be a technical achievement but it isn't exciting. I can already look around my living room and use my phone or computer or TV at the same time.

Apple built a device that is capable of magic and made it as exciting as homework. I just don't understand. It's like building a Ferrari that doesn't drive on roads and marketing it as a golf cart.