Like I said, they would cease to be flaws once they were fixed by firmware upgrades.
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A Consolidated List Of All PS Vita Flaws
- Thread starter pramath
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Hm, I said "but seriously...." so I wasn't really serious either
You can take any device in the world and after 2 minutes you could make a "list with several flaws".
3 - 5 hours for a handheld? -> average/good
Entry price -> really? Look at the hardware and you will realize "it's a steal".
Remeber the day with the price announcement? "ONLY 249$??? HOLY SH#T"
And now it's too expensive? Really?
etc.
These flaws (omg you can't use the browser while playing games) aren't really a big deal.
That's what I tried to say. Not that this thread is useless, or something.
Only the "memory card is too expensive" story is the only "flaw" where I have to aggree with the OP.
But if the Game Informer rumor is true (+ the piracy fiasco/PSP).... it all makes sense ;P
you're not born with game, game is developed.
What is the Game Informer rumor?Hm, I said "but seriously...." so I wasn't really serious either
You can take any device in the world and after 2 minutes you could make a "list with several flaws".
3 - 5 hours for a handheld? -> average/good
Entry price -> really? Look at the hardware and you will realize "it's a steal".
Remeber the day with the price announcement? "ONLY 249$??? HOLY SH#T"
And now it's too expensive? Really?
etc.
These flaws (omg you can't use the browser while playing games) aren't really a big deal.
That's what I tried to say. Not that this thread is useless, or something.
Only the "memory card is too expensive" story is the only "flaw" where I have to aggree with the OP.
But if the Game Informer rumor is true.... it all makes sense ;P
Oi, should've left it out and told them to kick rocks. lol
You really dislike red. :[
Hm, I said "but seriously...." so I wasn't really serious either
You can take any device in the world and after 2 minutes you could make a "list with several flaws".
3 - 5 hours for a handheld? -> average/good
Entry price -> really? Look at the hardware and you will realize "it's a steal".
Remeber the day with the price announcement? "ONLY 249$??? HOLY SH#T"
And now it's too expensive? Really?
etc.
These flaws (omg you can't use the browser while playing games) aren't really a big deal.
That's what I tried to say. Not that this thread is useless, or something.
Only the "memory card is too expensive" story is the only "flaw" where I have to aggree with the OP.
But if the Game Informer rumor is true (+ the piracy fiasco/PSP).... it all makes sense ;P
So your point is that 3-5 hours of battery life is okay, and that the price is a steal. I'm just curious as to why the "memory card is too expensive" story is the only flaw you see in the OP's points. Would you say he is nit-picking?
Heh, this is so easy.
- Love the rear touch panel
- Love the new Augmented Reality (seems to be miles better than the 3DS's)
- Absolutely love its network integration and social features
- Dual analogs!
- Love the OS and interface
- Love the media capabilities
- Love the games Sony has announced, in particular Uncharted, Wipeout and Modnation Racers (although in my opinion, third party support could still use some more games, but these are early days, and I am sure the issue will be fixed soon)
- Love the system power. Sony actually hit it right out of the ballpark with the hardware in this one
- Love that big, gorgeous OLED screen
of course i dislike red. do i look like a commie to you?
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Sometimes?
Ninja_Hawk
Member
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28959749/the-ps-vita-has-flaws-many-many-flaws
You should've kept this thread there in that craphole. The only good that can come of this is helping people make an informed decision about he Vita weighing its positives and negatives, this is just kind useless, and the bigger issues are things we know about and have already discussed.
You should've kept this thread there in that craphole. The only good that can come of this is helping people make an informed decision about he Vita weighing its positives and negatives, this is just kind useless, and the bigger issues are things we know about and have already discussed.
40% off all psn versions of vita games.
That will be excellent! That would actually justify the mark up on Memory Stick prices as a one time entry fee!
Is there any news we have towards this being true? What are the digital prices w.r.t retail prices in Japan, for example?
chickdigger802
Banned
Yeah, 'flaw' is still a bit strong and makes it sound unfix-able.
These are more 'issues' and 'concerns' than 'flaws'. All these issues will probably be addressed (Knowing Sony, it might be a bit longer than you'd expect, especially for memory prices).
Come on TC, do you write for IGN or something? ;P
And maybe throw in some ios comparisons as well, to balance it out.
There is a long thread around here. Unless some behind the counter deals go down, big retailers like walmart will just not support the system if sony is gonna play ball that way.
These are more 'issues' and 'concerns' than 'flaws'. All these issues will probably be addressed (Knowing Sony, it might be a bit longer than you'd expect, especially for memory prices).
Come on TC, do you write for IGN or something? ;P
And maybe throw in some ios comparisons as well, to balance it out.
There is a long thread around here. Unless some behind the counter deals go down, big retailers like walmart will just not support the system if sony is gonna play ball that way.
Digital prices of Vita games in Japan are all $5-$10 off of retail MSRP. Though, in Japan retail is vital for handheld success.
I don't think 40% is a possible discount for most software, but I can see smaller discounts if bought on PSN.
And how much do retail prices average in Japan for handheld games?
That rumour shouldn't be attributed to GameInformer. It originated at some small site, thriftynerd or something, quoting a demo rep. That's dubious enough as it is, but even if it were 'true' it's probably a case of misinterpretation (i.e. referring to some occasional games vs ALL games etc.)
Posted one up there, didn't really go into explaining anything though. Unlike the flaws which need explaining, the strengths are all self evident.
Will these issues be fixed through firmware or hardware revisions? Maybe they will be addressed and/or fixed before release, but if anything, recent news seems to suggest otherwise. They're not 'flaws', they're design decisions. I should probably wait a couple years for those 'issues' and 'concerns' to be addressed before I consider spending any money on the handheld.
rollingstart
Banned
"Consolidated list of why the PS Vita isn't that bad"
wait, isn't this launching in like a week in Japan?
I can't believe it's already December
Infinite Justice
Member
There is no average. You can have Vita games launch for as little as 2900 yen (this should be the equivalent of $29.99, but bad exchange rates make this closer to $40) to like 7000 yen. Once Square Enix launches a major Vita game, I'd fully expect 9000 yen+ editions, lol.
I have an idea, how about I add in 3DS negatives to the OP too?
So they're all over the place?
I wonder what that would mean for digital v/s retail prices here...
that's when i'm blending in so i can secretly murder them
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Lol.
Ninja_Hawk
Member
Oh great so we complain more about more stuff (like GAF doesn't do that enough) we've already complained about, as I mentioned you want to be informative with these kinds of posts, the best way of doing that is to give boths sides of the coin, that way people are FULLY aware of the systems situation, and is a thread worth discussing things in.
So I add in PS Vita strengths? Okay, that seems fine.
In North America, Vita games will likely be between $29.99 and $39.99 at retail.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
My word, this is one of the most transparent threads I've ever seen on NeoGAF.
Really OP? That is pathetic. System wars? It's shit like this that is reducing the quality of the topics here on NeoGAF. Please, go back to the GameFAQs/GameSpot message boards or just stop making FUD topics.
So what you're saying is that he made this thread as part of an agenda?
I don't think the impact of no on board storage can be understated nowadays. At least not where Joe consumer is concerned. People have got used to buying products with X amount of GB in them, even if they don't know what the GB's mean. I know a couple of people who always upgrade to higher storage iPhones even though they openly admit they barely store anything other than apps on their phones. Stores like PC World regularly advertise products by the size of their storage space rather than the actual specs. Its all about BIGAR NUMBERS ROAR! That sounds ridiculous to alot of people here who DO know about this stuff, but its how a lot of the unknowing public have been raised to shop.
Selling the Vita at a certain price and then asking people to buy their GB's seperate - and not cheaply - could be a dangerous tactic. I think it'll cost them sales.
Selling the Vita at a certain price and then asking people to buy their GB's seperate - and not cheaply - could be a dangerous tactic. I think it'll cost them sales.
don't forget the se tax and the capcom "like a console game!" tax
Agreed. Add the positives in and change the title.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Is all there in the OP, you don't need to have a psychology degree to see, or even click 'see all threads created by Pramath' button:
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
That gamespot link is pretty damning. :X
Infinite Justice
Member
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Holly shit. Fucking lol. Great find.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
hadn't seen the Gamespot thread :lol
I guess people think they're being super sneaky if they preface the same message with a lighter toned OP.
Has anyone had success in real life for 'de-programming' a system warrior? What were the breaking points that unleashed them from the shackles of mental corporation alliance? Did they play a 'rival' systems AAA game, absolutely love it, and discover its okay not to nail your dick to one ships deck in favour of others?
Noooooooooooooooooo ! Sound Shapes is great. Gravity Daze looks delicious too but I haven't try it.
Little Deviants looks good and plays fine but I have my eyes on the above 2. 8^(
Infinite Justice
Member
Is Gravity Daze really not a US launch title?
I just remembered another minor fault that bugs me about the Vita;
>>No generic mass storage capabilities therefore no DRM free Japanese demos
They will be missed. Makes the whole single account thing even worse for me (I find switching accounts on the PSP too cumbersome, fat chance I'm doing that shit on the Vita).
>>No generic mass storage capabilities therefore no DRM free Japanese demos
They will be missed. Makes the whole single account thing even worse for me (I find switching accounts on the PSP too cumbersome, fat chance I'm doing that shit on the Vita).
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I do, I absolutely hate that Sony insists on putting the left analog stick in an uncomfortable position. This is the most important input device and has to be put in the most comfortable position.