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Is Aquaman the greatest butt of a joke ever?

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DonasaurusRex

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Yeah I know, it's not like two pages worth of people saying how it's isn't true never existed and instead ends up into Marvel fanwanking!

I know you're trolling though. :)

well he is a shit copy of namor but he does have the telepathy with sea creatures....other than that..Bill Everett made the quintessential king of the deep hero.


Imperius Rex bitches.
 
Aquaman is the type of character with hidden potential, it just takes the right writer to make him interesting. I used to feel that Martian Manhunter was kind of useless until his blackest night resurrection, he was a complete badass.
 

DonasaurusRex

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More like Namor is a shit prototype of Aquaman.

OUTRAGEOUS!

namor is older than aquaman and is not only the defacto king of the sea he is the first mutant, AND first im on my own side anti hero. Many of us arent old enough to read the runs i had to dig thru my dads stash, but namor was a complete badass in marvels/timely comics revival he beat the shit out of everyone dr doom included (which is funny considering the comics code they were under). Been on his own side for over 70 years and is one of the best characters ever made. Oh and he wears speedo's because nothing is a threat to his mutanthood or balls of atlantean steel.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
namor is older than aquaman and is not only the defacto king of the sea he is the first mutant, AND first im on my own side anti hero. Many of us arent old enough to read the runs i had to dig thru my dads stash, but namor was a complete badass in marvels/timely comics revival he beat the shit out of everyone dr doom included (which is funny considering the comics code they were under). Been on his own side for over 70 years and is one of the best characters ever made. Oh and he wears speedo's because nothing is a threat to his mutanthood or balls of atlantean steel.

Yeah that's why Namor sucks - he's yet another "hurr badass antihero" generic archetype. There's a lack of charm to him in any incarnation.

And sure, nothing is a threat to his balls... that's why he wears a speedo. *snicker*
 

zon

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But he looks like Mr Ed

He flew around in his ship destroying planets to starve Galactus. His badassery trumps any complaints you might conjure up.

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And Jean wanted to be with Wolverine but she didn't because she was with Cyclops. She found new dick. Their relationship had been over for awhile. Neither wanted to admit it though. Wolverine said it best when he said "You (Cyke) were too weak to say what you really wanted and she was too strong."

Preach brother, preach! If Jean ever comes back they better not stick her with Cyclops again. She deserves better.
 

akira28

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Emma liked to dress up as Jean during their "sessions", but he still knew it was Emma.

Damn that's hot. That's why I always go for the evil ones.

But...do you ever think, maybe Doom, like...you know... thinks of Squirrel Girl, in *that* way? I mean, she is the only woman who ever defeated him. You know he respects that kind of power, and fear. Probably kinda turns him on.

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I don't know if Emma and Namor ever actually did the deed. And she's not above "mindfucking" people, letting them thing they're making the most horrendous beast with two backs, while she's just sitting their filing her nails. But even if she did bang Namor, she's so bad, I might even take her back. Because I know she's the type to use sex as a means to an end, and that it was probably meaningless besides manipulation/fun.

And re: Wolvie and Jean, Wolvie's a boring lay dude. I mean, ok, so he gets Jean, he's happy Wolvie, they can go out to the Canadian countryside and be "truly happy" and he can stop being all broody and fatalistic and start being philosophical and deep, while still rustic and genuine. And...then what? Exploring his inner depth with the woman he loves? Raising a family and all that shit? No dude, he's fucking Wolverine. The only thing that existed between Jean and Logan was the heat of their attraction, his fucked up past, mixed with his shitty luck with women. The only thing Jean had was her self-confessed thing for "badboys", and her ability to understand the man beneath the beast. So, you could give them a happily ever after, but it would be boring as shit.

Scott and Jean did compliment each other. She basically kept him in one piece, and filled in all his inadequacies and doubts, and he and his fanatical need to protect her, fulfilled her need to be loved and have someone so devoted to her. He was a mental case, and she was the superpowerful cheerleader chick who loves when her jock boyfriend gets in dudes faces for looking at her the wrong way. She knows Logan would die for her out of nobility and need. But Cyclops would fall for her over and over and over again, because that's just who he is. Like a lemming over a cliff.

That said, I like the character that he has developed having lost Jean, and then developing something with his former enemy, basically the anti-Jean. She does some of the same things, but from a more realistic standpoint. And his love for Emma seems more willful and true. He's with her because he chooses to be, not because he can't resist it. And they do make a good pair. You get to see him fuck up more often without Jean mentally patching him back together again with sex and psi powers. He bears all the scars, and has to heal on his own a lot more often. In that context it isn't so strange to see him as less of a protege of Xavier, but learning a lot from Magneto as well.
 
Why is Peter wearing the black suit there? Haven't read Spidey since the Clone Saga.

Because he's pissed off. Much like in Back in Black he puts it on when he's had enough and just means business. In this arc (The Grim Hunt) the Kravnioff's had been going around making his life hell for a couple of months and he just snapped. He was about to break his "no kill" rule as well.
 

Asbel

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namor is older than aquaman and is not only the defacto king of the sea he is the first mutant, AND first im on my own side anti hero. Many of us arent old enough to read the runs i had to dig thru my dads stash, but namor was a complete badass in marvels/timely comics revival he beat the shit out of everyone dr doom included (which is funny considering the comics code they were under). Been on his own side for over 70 years and is one of the best characters ever made. Oh and he wears speedo's because nothing is a threat to his mutanthood or balls of atlantean steel.

Bold statement. Does he even have his own ongoing series?

I simply dont like his design. Elf ears, tiny ankle wings and speedos.. Ridiculous.
 

akira28

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Namor's awesome. He's done more heel-face turns than anyone in the Marvel Universe. And he's had a couple of series. And a couple of costumes. But they always seem to go back to the classic swimshorts, I guess because they enjoy drawing anatomy. Plus the ladies love it.
 

Ultratech

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I love when Comic gaf start chatting. It's always fun.

Isn't it? Always so interesting to watch people talk about comics and post awesome pics.

Because he's pissed off. Much like in Back in Black he puts it on when he's had enough and just means business. In this arc (The Grim Hunt) the Kravnioff's had been going around making his life hell for a couple of months and he just snapped. He was about to break his "no kill" rule as well.

So he's just got access to it freely? Kinda nice I guess...though I thought he got rid it because it fucked with his mind? (Or is it not the symbiote suit?)
 

jaxword

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Hah what comic is that from?

That's Earth X, a very, very GOOD comic that got very very bad by its ending.

Which was a damn shame, because it started so well.

It's like the Matrix trilogy of comics, great ideas to start, slow slide to nonsense.
 

Tizoc

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^I'd like a cropped (from the bottom) and resized to 200x200 ver. of that GIF if anyone could make one ^_^;

I've heard of Earth X but have yet to read it.

Ugh 20 mins. til I leave work, will try to make a thread for awesome comic book moments when I get home. Hope mods are OK with doing so...
 

jaxword

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I've heard of Earth X but have yet to read it.

I read it back to front several times because it was so incredible (well, the first half), so I can definitely recommend it and would like to talk about it.

Just be prepared for a kind of let down after it climaxes in quality at the start.
 

Tizoc

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@jax- Didn't it have sequels after it? Will give Earth X a read soon since I'm almost done reading IDW's Transformers series.

Earth X. Franklin Richard cursed Namor to forever burn, because Namor killed Johnny Storm.

Dick move Namor, dick move.
 

jaxword

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@jax- Didn't it have sequels after it? Will give Earth X a read soon since I'm almost done reading IDW's Transformers series.

Yes, hence my Matrix trilogy analogy.

Earth X - Great new ideas and great implementation.
Universe X - Ok, sort of getting a bit silly and crowded and predictable here, still not too bad.
Paradise X - Now it's just cliches and throwing random ideas out with no purpose and the ending sucked.

In fairness, they got funding cut near the end for whatever reason so they had to cram a lot of their ideas into a short span for the finale, which is why it ended so poorly.

Still a good read.
 
So he's just got access to it freely? Kinda nice I guess...though I thought he got rid it because it fucked with his mind? (Or is it not the symbiote suit?)

It's not the symbiote, it's just a regular suit.

EDIT: I was thinking of times when Peter's gone rouge, and in a pretty recent issue (last year or so) he went after some guy that assaulted Betty Brant. The result? Peter beating up every small time crook in New York to get to the guy.
 

akira28

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Is that really such a good thing?

That they keep bringing him back is a testament to the awesomeness. He's just the original don't give a fuck, stay out of my way bastard. The only people he listens to are women he wants to fuck and men that he respects. And the men he respects, you can count on like one hand. He always starts out as some superpowerful menace, but turns out to be 'tragically misunderstood' and 'basically still good at heart', even though he has tried to sink major cities under gigantic tidal waves for little more than an insult, more than once.
 
Preach brother, preach! If Jean ever comes back they better not stick her with Cyclops again. She deserves better.

Cyclops deserves better too. I've always thought Jean was super boring, and Emma Frost is one of my favorite characters right now. Their relationship is way more interesting.

Being a spectacular bitch makes her constantly hilarious.
 

Slayven

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That they keep bringing him back is a testament to the awesomeness. He's just the original don't give a fuck, stay out of my way bastard. The only people he listens to are women he wants to fuck and men that he respects. And the men he respects, you can count on like one hand. He always starts out as some superpowerful menace, but turns out to be 'tragically misunderstood' and 'basically still good at heart', even though he has tried to sink major cities under gigantic tidal waves for little more than an insult, more than once.
Plus he has a good reason for when he goes evil. Being out of the ocean too long fucks with his brain chemistry.
 

zon

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And re: Wolvie and Jean, Wolvie's a boring lay dude. I mean, ok, so he gets Jean, he's happy Wolvie, they can go out to the Canadian countryside and be "truly happy" and he can stop being all broody and fatalistic and start being philosophical and deep, while still rustic and genuine. And...then what? Exploring his inner depth with the woman he loves? Raising a family and all that shit? No dude, he's fucking Wolverine. The only thing that existed between Jean and Logan was the heat of their attraction, his fucked up past, mixed with his shitty luck with women. The only thing Jean had was her self-confessed thing for "badboys", and her ability to understand the man beneath the beast. So, you could give them a happily ever after, but it would be boring as shit.

Scott and Jean did compliment each other. She basically kept him in one piece, and filled in all his inadequacies and doubts, and he and his fanatical need to protect her, fulfilled her need to be loved and have someone so devoted to her. He was a mental case, and she was the superpowerful cheerleader chick who loves when her jock boyfriend gets in dudes faces for looking at her the wrong way. She knows Logan would die for her out of nobility and need. But Cyclops would fall for her over and over and over again, because that's just who he is. Like a lemming over a cliff.

That said, I like the character that he has developed having lost Jean, and then developing something with his former enemy, basically the anti-Jean. She does some of the same things, but from a more realistic standpoint. And his love for Emma seems more willful and true. He's with her because he chooses to be, not because he can't resist it. And they do make a good pair. You get to see him fuck up more often without Jean mentally patching him back together again with sex and psi powers. He bears all the scars, and has to heal on his own a lot more often. In that context it isn't so strange to see him as less of a protege of Xavier, but learning a lot from Magneto as well.

Boring lay dude? Lol what. He's been involved in more shit than any other character marvel has created. If you want to call someone a "boring lay dude" it should be Scott. Logan is more akin to a warrior on a neverending journey.

I always considered Scott to be the one who benefitted the most from the relationship between him and Jean. She was always much more like Logan than Scott in spirit, she was as much of a warrior as Logan was. She wanted a man (Logan) but still cared enough for the insecure boy she was with that she couldn't bear hurting him. So instead she tried her best suppressing what she really wanted and tried to stay satisfied with keeping a damaged person above water at the expense of her own happiness. Which is why him being unfaithful was such a big thing when it happened (for me personally*). I also heavily disagree that Scott and Jean complimented each other as a couple, at best they stunted each others growth to be able to stay together. At worst one side (Scott) was like an emotional parasite who required the other to stay somewhat normal.

* I was hoping for some real balls-to-the-wall all out fight to the death between Scott and Logan but that never happened. Boo I say, boo!
 

number47

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Namor's awesome. He's done more heel-face turns than anyone in the Marvel Universe. And he's had a couple of series. And a couple of costumes. But they always seem to go back to the classic swimshorts, I guess because they enjoy drawing anatomy. Plus the ladies love it.

dr. doom has more.
 

zon

Member
Cyclops deserves better too. I've always thought Jean was super boring, and Emma Frost is one of my favorite characters right now. Their relationship is way more interesting.

Being a spectacular bitch makes her constantly hilarious.

I partly agree, both Scott and Jean would have benefitted from breaking up. They were no good for each other at all. Emma on the other hand has either forced or managed to make Scott to fully grow up and handle his own shit.

And the only reason Jean was boring was because she always held herself back to take care of the simpering manchild. :p
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Jean was just as insecure as Scott until right before her most recent death. And at that point, he wasn't either. People are weird on this one. They still see Cyke as his 90s version, which was his only insecure weakling version of the character since the original print run, but neglect to see the same back and forth happened to Jean.

Ironically, Wolvie is much more the back and forth whiny turd that Scott was for a bit when writers hated his character and made him a bitch, and Scott is more the bad boy that they wrote Jean to be attracted to.

But still. Scott and Emma are easily the best pair, and frankly, they just need to last a long time. Let other characters take up the romance subplot, and let those two fill the role of slightly more stable adults.
 

NEO0MJ

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He always starts out as some superpowerful menace, but turns out to be 'tragically misunderstood' and 'basically still good at heart', even though he has tried to sink major cities under gigantic tidal waves for little more than an insult, more than once.

Or sometimes Doom tricked him :p

dr. doom has more.

Nah. Doom truly doesn't give a fuck about any side anything. Except maybe Richaaaards!
 

zon

Member
Jean was just as insecure as Scott until right before her most recent death. And at that point, he wasn't either. People are weird on this one. They still see Cyke as his 90s version, which was his only insecure weakling version of the character since the original print run, but neglect to see the same back and forth happened to Jean.

Ironically, Wolvie is much more the back and forth whiny turd that Scott was for a bit when writers hated his character and made him a bitch, and Scott is more the bad boy that they wrote Jean to be attracted to.

But still. Scott and Emma are easily the best pair, and frankly, they just need to last a long time. Let other characters take up the romance subplot, and let those two fill the role of slightly more stable adults.

The only insecurity I felt Jean had, that was near-permanent up until the end, all stemmed from "should I pick Logan or should I stay with Scott". All x-men have had bouts of insecurity but Scott is the only one that kept that going for almost 40 years.

Logan becomes a whiny turd for actual reasons (
unknowingly killing your children can't be fun
) though. And it only lasts for short periods, when he's finally managed to handle the emotional pain.

Scott and Emma are a good pair, yes, but they don't have much competition on Utopia. They are the only ones who have an actual relationship imo. If you mean best pair when compared to Scott and Jean, then I totally agree.
 

Tyree

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Yeah no, Aquaman is smart enough not to wear speedos.

You do realize Namor's design is based on Olympic swimmers right? Also if your going to give Namor shit for wearing a speedo/underwear you also have to shit on Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Darksied too.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
The only insecurity I felt Jean had, that was near-permanent up until the end, all stemmed from "should I pick Logan or should I stay with Scott". All x-men have had bouts of insecurity but Scott is the only one that kept that going for almost 40 years.

Logan becomes a whiny turd for actual reasons (
unknowingly killing your children can't be fun
) though. And it only lasts for short periods, when he's finally managed to handle the emotional pain.

Scott and Emma are a good pair, yes, but they don't have much competition on Utopia. They are the only ones who have an actual relationship imo. If you mean best pair when compared to Scott and Jean, then I totally agree.

Yeah, that's what I meant. They should fill the role of adult relationship holderfrom here on out. Plenty of other people to pick from to do the love triangle, will they or won't they bullshit.

And Jean started off as insecure because she wasn't powerful enough, then became basically a nothing character that only existed to give Scott/Logan/Warren to lust after until the Phoenix arc. Then it was all about her being too insecure to use her powers because she "may lose control." It really wasn't until New X-Men that they gave her any real identity outside of who wanted to fuck her and Dark Phoenix.
 

Asbel

Member
You do realize Namor's design is based on Olympic swimmers right? Also if your going to give Namor shit for wearing a speedo/underwear you also have to shit on Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Darksied too.

That neither makes for a good super hero or regal design.
 

Tizoc

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So I'm working on an Awesome moments in comics thread for GAF, but some of the stuff I wanted to showcase exceed 5 pages...is that OK to make or is it against the forum rules?
 

NEO0MJ

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So I'm working on an Awesome moments in comics thread for GAF, but some of the stuff I wanted to showcase exceed 5 pages...is that OK to make or is it against the forum rules?

Preview pages are 5 pages so maybe all right? Might be better to PM a mod.
 

Tizoc

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^It's an 'OT' more a thread for ComicGAF and others to post pages containing great moments from comics. So the first post would have examples of such.

Preview pages are 5 pages so maybe all right? Might be better to PM a mod.

Thanks will see who's online ATM and ask them.
 
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