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Yeah I dunno what to think about didyouknowgaming. I've read most of them IN THIS THREAD so it feels like some kind of copycat. Maybe it's a gaffer at work?

I think it's great. So what if a lot of it came from here? How much of this thread is 100% original content, anyway? Nice to have it in a more compact form, anyway.

They used that dumbass Star Fox thing.

I like the Starfox thing. They definitely had fake legs, though I don't buy the reasoning about why. There are a few other questionable ones, too.

 

[Diablohead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86nyE9Ha0U
1:18

Tinkle popo's dream land.

It could work.

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

I thought the comment was odd too but not because of the time frame and more because I never knew it was released outside of Japan. Though obviously you two guys could have been in Japan in the 70s. Actually that wouldn't surprise me, GAF has all kinds of folks from around the world.

This. I wasn't trying to insinuate that someone in their late 30's couldn't have encountered the game when they were little (or that 39 is really old), just that I find it unlikely that someone who posts here would be just the right age to remember these things which occupied a few old bowling alleys for a few years and then, as I understand it, all but shut down by the early 80's. In Japan.

So...where and when did you guys encounter the Laser Clay Shooting System?

 

[Prez]

Get rid of all the vowels in "Pokemon" and "Pikmin" and in both cases you get "PKMN". Or is that well known already?

 

[Peagles]

This may have been posted already or just common knowledge.

Being an inferior American and having not grown up with the original music from Sonic CD, it came as quite a shock when I was recently playing Sonic 2 for Game Gear and got to Green Hills Zone and heard this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKehYLYP-A

It's Toot Toot Sonic Warrior!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cFn6NneHA

Also, Sonic 2 for Game Gear came out the year before Sonic CD meaning Toot Toot Sonic Warrior isn't the original.

I've had a lot of fun listening to this, thanks!

I don't get it though, so American games don't have the same Green Hills track as other regions? I had Sonic 2 on Master System (PAL) so this level music is normal to me.

 

[Meccanical]

This may have been posted already or just common knowledge.

Being an inferior American and having not grown up with the original music from Sonic CD, it came as quite a shock when I was recently playing Sonic 2 for Game Gear and got to Green Hills Zone and heard this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKehYLYP-A

It's Toot Toot Sonic Warrior!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cFn6NneHA

Also, Sonic 2 for Game Gear came out the year before Sonic CD meaning Toot Toot Sonic Warrior isn't the original.

I bet people don't even realize Tails Theme from SA1 is the Bridge level theme from Sonic 1.

Bridge.

Tails Theme

forgive me if already posted, but seemed appropriate.

 

[Roto13]

I bet people don't even realize Tails Theme from SA1 is the Bridge level theme from Sonic 1.

Bridge.

Tails Theme

forgive me if already posted, but seemed appropriate.

No.

 

[Mobius 1]

This may have been posted already or just common knowledge.

Being an inferior American and having not grown up with the original music from Sonic CD, it came as quite a shock when I was recently playing Sonic 2 for Game Gear and got to Green Hills Zone and heard this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKehYLYP-A

It's Toot Toot Sonic Warrior!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cFn6NneHA

Also, Sonic 2 for Game Gear came out the year before Sonic CD meaning Toot Toot Sonic Warrior isn't the original.

If you like that, you're going to love this.

 

[Platy]

Probably going to be one of those "omfg how you didn't noticed that before" ... but ...

Is evoLutioN spelled backwards ! =O

 

[Massive Nights]

He wouldn't have to be that old. I've played it, and I'm 39. Unless you're one of those that thinks 39 is "old", in which case you can DIAF, but otherwise, it's not inconceivable for someone within a few years of my age to have played it. It was quite common in the 70s. At least as much as I remember seeing the damned thing.

I played it and I'm 30. They had one of these in Barry's Amusements in Portrush, N. Ireland for YEARS. And I know it wasn't the video one, I vividly remember the clay pigeons as a light projection on the screen.

 

[mhayze]

Probably going to be one of those "omfg how you didn't noticed that before" ... but ...

Is evoLutioN spelled backwards ! =O

And... it works backwards too. Devolution spelled backwards is noitu loveD!

 

[Muskweeto]

I've had a lot of fun listening to this, thanks!

I don't get it though, so American games don't have the same Green Hills track as other regions? I had Sonic 2 on Master System (PAL) so this level music is normal to me.

Games almost always have the same music in different regions, but Sonic CD had an almost completely different soundtrack in North America. This is the intro to the NA version of Sonic CD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC8W672mXc
Sonic 2 had the same music in all regions.

I bet people don't even realize Tails Theme from SA1 is the Bridge level theme from Sonic 1.

Bridge.

Tails Theme

forgive me if already posted, but seemed appropriate.

Eh, I can hear a similarity at the beginning, but it feels like a stretch.

If you like that, you're going to love this.

That's awesome! Thanks.

EDIT: This guys channel is great!

 

[Peagles]

Games almost always have the same music in different regions, but Sonic CD had an almost completely different soundtrack in North America. This is the intro to the NA version of Sonic CD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC8W672mXc
Sonic 2 had the same music in all regions.

Ah okay, I doubted the music would be different game, but the way you wrote it made it sound like you already knew Toot Toot Sonic Warrior and were surprised by the Green Hill music. Had you not played Sonic 2 before?

 

[Lord British]

And... it works backwards too. Devolution spelled backwards is noitu loveD!

Also Xoda Rap = Paradox.

 

[Catshade]

Guys, guys!

Spoiler

Alucard = Dracula backwards

 

[G-Fex]

Pfft, I prefer real looking Bomberman

 

[Muskweeto]

Ah okay, I doubted the music would be different game, but the way you wrote it made it sound like you already knew Toot Toot Sonic Warrior and were surprised by the Green Hill music. Had you not played Sonic 2 before?

I've only recently heard the Sonic Warrior version after finding out about the changed soundtrack because of the new release on XBLA and PSN. I've had Sonic 2 since I was a kid but hadn't played it in such a long time that I had forgotten the song and didn't make the connection. It just sort of blew my mind that Sonic Warrior was a remix of a random song from a sonic game that a lot of people may not have even played.

 

[jaxword]

Pfft, I prefer real looking Bomberman

Spoiler

This is actually Bomberman's son.

 

[MrCunningham]

Guys, guys!

Spoiler

Alucard = Dracula backwards

That secret was already revealed in the 1943 film called: Son of Dracula.

You're about 70 years late.

 

[BGBW]

Spoiler

This is actually Bomberman's son.

Secret lovechild as a result of:

 

[Lijik]

Spoiler

This is actually Bomberman's son.

Offtopic but I remember being disappointed when I was younger that the game had nothing to do with the cover. It was just standard bomberman (but the only enemies being sentient square panels for some reason) and didnt even have the kid with the totally rad 90s mohawk

 

[Tomasooie]

I'm starting Vice City for the first time and in the first safehouse, inside Vercetti's hotel room, there's a magazine on a table -- Erse, obviously a play on the UK gaming magazine Edge and the word arse.

But what's on the cover of the magazine? OMG.

Phantasy Star. An actual screenshot of Phantasy Star. Maybe, albeit edited.

(Someone else's image.)

Phantasy Star actually came out in 1987 in Japan, and wasn't released in the US or Europe till 1988, but still.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE.



..Well it blew my mind, at least.

 

[Mike M]

I'm starting Vice City for the first time and in the first safehouse, inside Vercetti's hotel room, there's a magazine on a table -- Erse, obviously a play on the UK gaming magazine Edge and the word arse.

But what's on the cover of the magazine? OMG.

Phantasy Star. An actual screenshot of Phantasy Star. Maybe, albeit edited.

(Someone else's image.)

Phantasy Star actually came out in 1987 in Japan, and wasn't released in the US or Europe till 1988, but still.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE.



..Well it blew my mind, at least.

More shit like this.

No more fucking music that does not sound alike

 

[GameplayWhore]

More shit like this.

No more fucking music that does not sound alike

Or Pokémon who have traits described by their name. "Holy crap, Regirock looks like a rock!"

Spoiler

…also bulky and badass looking like Reggie

 

[Mike M]

Or Pokémon who have traits described by their name. "Holy crap, Regirock looks like a rock!"

Spoiler

…also bulky and badass looking like Reggie

That too, though I find obvious facts more tolerable than the truck loads of musical comparisons that just aren't there at all.

The StarFox leg amputation thing is up there too.

 

[bjork]

More shit like this.

No more fucking music that does not sound alike

This 10000000%

 

[Gravijah]

holy shit vice city-phantasy star thing is AWESOME.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

That secret was already revealed in the 1943 film called: Son of Dracula.

You're about 70 years late.

Fairly sure he was joking given the Noitu Love thing...

 

[ratcliffja]

I'm starting Vice City for the first time and in the first safehouse, inside Vercetti's hotel room, there's a magazine on a table -- Erse, obviously a play on the UK gaming magazine Edge and the word arse.

But what's on the cover of the magazine? OMG.

Phantasy Star. An actual screenshot of Phantasy Star. Maybe, albeit edited.

(Someone else's image.)

Phantasy Star actually came out in 1987 in Japan, and wasn't released in the US or Europe till 1988, but still.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE.



..Well it blew my mind, at least.

It's certainly possible that the magazine was referencing an upcoming game since there's a good chance the game was in development in 86. Either way, it's a cool throwback.

 

[Tomasooie]

It's certainly possible that the magazine was referencing an upcoming game since there's a good chance the game was in development in 86. Either way, it's a cool throwback.

Or I had the thought that it could be referring to the release of the Sega Master System in 1986, which was far more capable than the NES.

But yeah. I love Sega, and seeing this really made me smile.

 

[Roto13]

It's probably just an inaccuracy that nobody really cared enough to fix.

Doesn't matter. It's a cool little easter egg.

 

[MrCunningham]

Fairly sure he was joking given the Noitu Love thing...

Spoiler

So was I...

It's certainly possible that the magazine was referencing an upcoming game since there's a good chance the game was in development in 86. Either way, it's a cool throwback.

Maybe. But that is a really cool reference. Phantasy Star really was one of the best looking console games of 1987. (even though it states 1986 here).

 

[djtiesto]

I'm starting Vice City for the first time and in the first safehouse, inside Vercetti's hotel room, there's a magazine on a table -- Erse, obviously a play on the UK gaming magazine Edge and the word arse.

But what's on the cover of the magazine? OMG.

Phantasy Star. An actual screenshot of Phantasy Star. Maybe, albeit edited.

(Someone else's image.)

Phantasy Star actually came out in 1987 in Japan, and wasn't released in the US or Europe till 1988, but still.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE.



..Well it blew my mind, at least.

HOLY SHIT, THAT IS AWESOME!!! It's a shame I sold off my Vice City copy a while back, since I'd love to go back and see it in game myself.

Someone at Rockstar North must've been a big PS fan, not too entirely surprising considering how SMS was a bit more successful over in Europe than stateside.

 

[vixlar]

I think the Vice City - Phantasy Star reference must be the new title for the thread... It is awesome!!!

 

[Platy]

Don't remember it posted ... but, was looking at http://boxvsbox.tumblr.com/ and then ...

they even stole the boxart !

 

[Easy_D]

What's mindblowing is that the guy on the Doki Doki Panic boxart is throwing MOTHERFUCKING PHANTOS at the other enemies. A true badass.

 

[Mike M]

Don't remember it posted ... but, was looking at http://boxvsbox.tumblr.com/ and then ...

they even stole the boxart !

Do in Doki Doki Panic, instead of turnips you threw... Phantos masks?

 

[Lumpy Onion]

I'm starting Vice City for the first time and in the first safehouse, inside Vercetti's hotel room, there's a magazine on a table -- Erse, obviously a play on the UK gaming magazine Edge and the word arse.

But what's on the cover of the magazine? OMG.

Phantasy Star. An actual screenshot of Phantasy Star. Maybe, albeit edited.

(Someone else's image.)

Phantasy Star actually came out in 1987 in Japan, and wasn't released in the US or Europe till 1988, but still.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE.



..Well it blew my mind, at least.

OK that is really awesome! Would never imagine there being a Phantasy Star 1 reference in Vice City.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

That Phanto mask looks like something from Bleach.

 

[Mista Koo]

Don't remember it posted ... but, was looking at http://boxvsbox.tumblr.com/ and then ...

they even stole the boxart !

It's interesting how the character mappings doesn't follow the one in the game:

 

[jaxword]

Do in Doki Doki Panic, instead of turnips you threw... Phantos masks?

Doki Doki Panic had a "mask" theme going on and it was really odd at times.

 

[Mike M]

Huh, learn something new every day. Guess it makes sense that mushrooms and turtle shells would be something else since they wouldn't make much sense in a Mario game.

That is fucking creepy looking, I feel like if I best that level, that thing is actually going to swallow my soul instead...

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

Don't remember it posted ... but, was looking at http://boxvsbox.tumblr.com/ and then ...

they even stole the boxart !

If you mean Super Mario Bros. 2 stole Doki Doki's artwork, then no. That's Super Mario Bros. USA, which was released in Japan and advertised as a Mario branded remake of Doki Doki Panic. They recreated the box art with Mario characters to further express that fact.
Also, both pictures look as though they were drawn by Yoichi Kotabe; hardly a rip-off if it's by the same artist.

 

[Roto13]

If you mean Super Mario Bros. 2 stole Doki Doki's artwork, then no. That's Super Mario Bros. USA, which was released in Japan and advertised as a Mario branded remake of Doki Doki Panic. They recreated the box art with Mario characters to further express that fact.
Also, both pictures look as though they were drawn by Yoichi Kotabe; hardly a rip-off if it's by the same artist.

Psst.

Nobody thinks it was actually stolen. The interesting bit of trivia is that they're so similar.

 

[The Boat]

Psst.

Nobody thinks it was actually stolen. The interesting bit of trivia is that they're so similar.

I've come across many people who think SMB2 is a Doki Doki Panic rip-off.

 

[Gui_PT]

Psst.

Nobody thinks it was actually stolen. The interesting bit of trivia is that they're so similar.

But the person who posted it said they stole the cover

 

[Roto13]

But the person who posted it said they stole the cover

They have these things now called jokes. People act silly for the hell of it. It happens.

 

[Gui_PT]

They have these things now called jokes. People act silly for the hell of it. It happens.

So you just instantly know if he's joking or not with no signs of it? Ok

You could also post normally instead of sounding condescending

 

[Anteo]

All this talk about doki doki panic remind me of this thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426346

Basically, they were doing a new Mario-like prototype, then Fuji Television asked them to do a game for them, some of the concepts where used in doki doki panic, and later released in USA as Mario 2

For a long time I though NoA just took a random game a turn it into a Mario game, not a Nintendo developed game.

 

[Platy]

Awesome link !

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By now everyone knows that they were games made by the same company and all the history ..

I just find it hilarious how they didn't even tryed to hide the fact that it was a remake in the japan, while in the usa/eu they tryed to hide that fact insanely till Super Mario All Stars ...

Just joked with stole because ... well .. not changing the sprites is one thing, but redrawing the cover with diferent characters is totaly diferent