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Sakurai talks Smash Bros 3DS/Wii U + white board sketch of Smash characters

CronoShot

Member
I can see these happening:

Lucario replaced by Zoroark
Pokemon Trainer updated to Black/White starters
Toon Link, ROB, and Snake taken out
Ike replaced by Krom
 

Anth0ny

Member
Well, he is too overpowered in Melee. He's the best character in the game.

Nah. Fox and Falco are better. However...

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That needs some fixing. Rest doesn't.

I'm probably the only one, but I would love for the gameplay physics to be more similar to SSB64. That's one of my favorite games ever, and my disappointment at what Melee did to the franchise's physics still hasn't gone away completely.

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Esiquio

Member
I'm probably the only one, but I would love for the gameplay physics to be more similar to SSB64. That's one of my favorite games ever, and my disappointment at what Melee did to the franchise's physics still hasn't gone away completely.

WTF, really? Smash 64 is unplayable after Melee.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Well, that quote have been existed for awhile and we already discussed about it. So its not new news as you claimed it to be. However picture of whiteboard is different story.
 
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Deleted member 13876

Unconfirmed Member
I can see these happening:

Lucario replaced by Zoroark
Pokemon Trainer updated to Black/White starters
Toon Link, ROB, and Snake taken out
Ike replaced by Krom

Considering when these games will come out I would bet both Zoroark and the BW starters will be the Gen 6 equivalents.
 

Revven

Member
Seeing some of these posts from competitive Smashers makes me wonder why there isn't a thread for competitive Smash talk like there is for dem fighting games. :(
 

udivision

Member
Seeing some of these posts from competitive Smashers makes me wonder why there isn't a thread for competitive Smash talk like there is for dem fighting games. :(

So that different types of smash fans can antagonize each other, and again, the threads will devovle.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Seeing some of these posts from competitive Smashers makes me wonder why there isn't a thread for competitive Smash talk like there is for dem fighting games. :(

There probably will be when Smash 4 comes out. I don't think a Melee or Brawl thread would thrive at this point.
 

Boney

Banned
The best strategy ever. Especially if you are in that little alcove on Hyrule Castle as Kirby. :lol

that's how you get falcon punched in the face by a 3rd player

Seeing some of these posts from competitive Smashers makes me wonder why there isn't a thread for competitive Smash talk like there is for dem fighting games. :(

don't you have your project m thread?

I mean the only reason for that to exist is because brawl is too uncompetitive right?
 
I doubt they'd change Pokemon Trainers Pokemon. I mean, there's a reason they had him use the original starters rather than gen 3 or 4 starters.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Also I doubt Sonic and Snake will be back. I know we've already talked about the possibility of Namco adding in some characters, but I wonder how far they would take that.

I think Sega may try to get Sonic in again. Sonic games simply sell the best on Nintendo systems, and the Sonic and Mario at the Olympic games is one of their best selling products.
 

SmithnCo

Member
I doubt they'd change Pokemon Trainers Pokemon. I mean, there's a reason they had him use the original starters rather than gen 3 or 4 starters.

Yeah. They are iconic and represent the concept of evolution in Pokemon, in a way. Trainer is fine by himself too, I wouldn't want another trainer with different Pokemon when they could put that effort elsewhere.
 
Seeing some of these posts from competitive Smashers makes me wonder why there isn't a thread for competitive Smash talk like there is for dem fighting games. :(

We actually have a bunch of competitive Melee heads in GAF (grats to Anth0ny for making bracket at IMPULSE <3) but we've never gotten together.

Its hard to mesh with the casual smash-GAF group because we don't really share the same interests, I suppose.

I agree its odd though; smash is the only major competitive game not featured on GAF.
 

mclem

Member
Contrary to belief, smash has never had clones. There are characters that have very similar animations and models, but when it comes down to it the way they are played is VERY different. Fox is faster than Falco, Falco's "side-b" pushed characters down while Fox's pushes them up, ETC.

Basically a Ryu/Ken thing?
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
FYI Sakurai wants Wolf in. In that Smash thread it was said he's been pushing him in Smash since 64.
 
We actually have a bunch of competitive Melee heads in GAF (grats to Anth0ny for making bracket at IMPULSE <3) but we've never gotten together.

Its hard to mesh with the casual smash-GAF group because we don't really share the same interests, I suppose.

I agree its odd though; smash is the only major competitive game not featured on GAF.

Assuming it were to be in its own thread I don't see why the two sides of smash would be butting heads since the casual side wouldn't (or should I say shouldn't) be there anyway, a simple rule as to not shit up such a thread with blubbering about either games superiority and how it's "supposed" be played sounds simple enough to enforce, well maybe.
I guess the real issue is are there enough competitive smashers here for such a thread to thrive?
 
I'm not sure why everyone seems to auto assume Rob would be cut from a future smash bros game, he was included because of the role he played in Nintendo's history (helping the NES be marketable). Same with people assuming characters with unique move sets will be cut like Diddy Kong or Ike, look at the characters cut from melee

Mewtwo, was replaced by Lucario and was originally planned to be in brawl
Dr Mario, really redundant considering you had Mario and Luigi
Young Link, was replaced by Toon Link
Pichu, "clone" of pikachu that damaged himself...
Roy, was planned to be in brawl like Mewtwo, I wouldn't consider Ike a replacement though some people might

So 4 of the 5 cut characters were "clones", and the only cut character with a unique move set was clearly the ground work for another (Lucario). Odds are no one will be outright cut (except maybe Toon Link) they'll be replaced by someone else (Ike -> Krom or Lucario -> Gen 6 dude). The only characters who's status would be in limbo are snake and sonic being 3rd party, but considering Sonic was the most requested character for Brawl and Nintendo and Sega continue to do Mario/Sonic games and Snake was requested by Sakurai's friend Kojima and is popular (and he's rumored to be in Sony All Star) so I really can't see anything getting in the way of them coming back.
 
Assuming it were to be in its own thread I don't see why the two sides of smash would be butting heads since the casual side wouldn't (or should I say shouldn't) be there anyway, a simple rule as to not shit up such a thread with blubbering about either games superiority and how it's "supposed" be played sounds simple enough to enforce, well maybe.

Well, it'd have to be its own thread to work. Trying to post competitive smash news in the casual thread doesn't go over well.

I guess the real issue is are there enough competitive smashers here for such a thread to thrive?

I don't know. There are at least a few dozen of us.

Probably not, tbh. Especially since we'll be buried in community.
 

Azure J

Member
Why doesn't GAF just have its own roster vote a la that one they keep doing for all the cool kids in Japan whenever a new Smash is to debut? I'd love to see the statistics that would come up from a GAF tally.

Mike Jones, Takamaru, Lip, Issac, Lil' Mac, Ridley, Toad, Daisy/Rosalina, Captain Syrup, Black Shadow, Palutena, & Medusa get my votes easy.
 

Gartooth

Member
So what is the consensus on the most requested new comers in Smash 4? Would the top three be (not counting 3rd parties) Little Mac, Ridley, and Isaac? (in no particular order)
 

JazzmanZ

Member
Why doesn't GAF just have its own roster vote a la that one they keep doing for all the cool kids in Japan whenever a new Smash is to debut? I'd love to see the statistics that would come up from a GAF tally.

Mike Jones, Takamaru, Lip, Issac, Lil' Mac, Ridley, Toad, Daisy/Rosalina get my votes easy.

Little mac, Ridley, King K rool, Chibi-robo, Megamanz
 
Geno is probably the only remaining "first-party" character I can think of actually wanting in. The rest of Brawl's cast is downright perfect. Maybe split the PKMN Trainer to 3 full characters, and give us back Mewtwo and Roy. (Dr. Mario should be a pallet swap)
 
Why doesn't GAF just have its own roster vote a la that one they keep doing for all the cool kids in Japan whenever a new Smash is to debut? I'd love to see the statistics that would come up from a GAF tally.

Mike Jones, Takamaru, Lip, Issac, Lil' Mac, Ridley, Toad, Daisy/Rosalina get my votes easy.

I think it was IntelliHeath who has had the plan to do something like that, though it was more of a prediction contest I think. A roster vote could be interesting though, i'd be up for helping with such a task.
 

Boney

Banned
So what is the consensus on the most requested new comers in Smash 4? Would the top three be (not counting 3rd parties) Little Mac, Ridley, and Isaac? (in no particular order)

Isaac's chances have gone down considerably after Dark Dawn both bombed and was an awful game.

And those chances weren't any good before either.
 

ED Cantu

Member
Ridley, you can add all the Geno and Krystal you want afterwards.

Agreed on Ridley, Geno maybe but please no Krystal.

The only thing I really, really want is a playable character from Golden Sun and not just an assist trophy. It could be Isaac, Felix, Garet, Matthew or any other, I don't care, as long as Golden Sun gets a character I'll be happy.
 
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