Thunder Monkey
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In a nutshell?No one's asking for a deep story, just give us a little bit of emotional resonance, please.
Big alien threat bad.
Super guys kicking the shit out of them good. Watch aliens go boom! now.
In a nutshell?No one's asking for a deep story, just give us a little bit of emotional resonance, please.
In a nutshell?
Big alien threat bad.
Super guys kicking the shit out of them good. Watch aliens go boom! now.
No one's asking for a deep story, just give us a little bit of emotional resonance, please.
*yawns*
Yeah, I think most people agree, but this is like gymnastics, you can choose to do an "easy" exercise and get a perfect score, or try to go for a more complicated one and not get a 10, or even a 9.
Yeah, I think most people agree, but this is like gymnastics, you can choose to do an "easy" exercise and get a perfect score, or try to go for a more complicated one and not get a 10, or even a 9.
Whats easy about juggling 6 primary cast members, a villain and facilitating action and story elements all within 2/2.5 hours? How come nobody has been able to do this before if its so easy?
On Avengers 2 topping Avengers said:By not trying to. By being smaller. More personal, more painful...
They weren't using the source material right.Whats easy about juggling 6 primary cast members, a villain and facilitating action and story elements all within 2/2.5 hours? How come nobody has been able to do this before if its so easy?
I doubt you'd like the next.Thankfully Mr. Whedon doesn't share the same low ambitions as you, Thunder Monkey:
I'm not being a hater, I'm fine with Avengers having a thin plot and just being glossy comic book action, I understand why they took such a conventional and safe path, but if that's the way they're going to go for the rest of the sequels than you can count me out.They weren't using the source material right.
When you've got the big team stuff it's less about the plot and more how you show it.
Especially when you're talking about characters like Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man.
Stories already developed in their own movies allowed Whedon the freedom to just make a spectacle of comic book powerhouses. I was shocked that he was able to weave the weaker characters in as well as he did.
Thin plot, but great moments. I can pick out well framed scenes at any point. I even liked the scene of ScarJo getting the up on Loki.
Bob is generally just being a hater. At this point if it isn't self-parody I'd be more than a little scared for him.
They weren't using the source material right.
When you've got the big team stuff it's less about the plot and more how you show it.
Especially when you're talking about characters like Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man.
Stories already developed in their own movies allowed Whedon the freedom to just make a spectacle of comic book powerhouses. I was shocked that he was able to weave the weaker characters in as well as he did.
Thin plot, but great moments. I can pick out well framed scenes at any point. I even liked the scene of ScarJo getting the up on Loki.
Bob is generally just being a hater. At this point if it isn't self-parody I'd be more than a little scared for him.
I'm not being a hater, I'm fine with Avengers having a thin plot and just being glossy comic book action, I understand why they took such a conventional and safe path, but if that's the way they're going to go for the rest of the sequels than you can count me out.
I'm not being a hater, I'm fine with Avengers having a thin plot and just being glossy comic book action, I understand why they took such a conventional and safe path, but if that's the way they're going to go for the rest of the sequels than you can count me out.
I'm not being a hater, I'm fine with Avengers having a thin plot and just being glossy comic book action, I understand why they took such a conventional and safe path, but if that's the way they're going to go for the rest of the sequels than you can count me out.
Thank God. I don't think I could handle you in the Avengers 2 thread.
Do you promise?
Bob is generally just being a hater. At this point if it isn't self-parody I'd be more than a little scared for him.
provided I'm still around by then, of course.
Hey guys, leave Captain Ahab here alone, he's got issues okay?
No one's asking for a deep story, just give us a little bit of emotional resonance, please.
let's hope not then.
shockingly i both like the batman movies and avengers but i just don't like how avengers gets downplayed as stupid and shallow. making someone laugh and care at the same time is not easy.
I agree. This argument that just because Avengers is light hearted and lacks angst and grimness making it an inferior film is a bullshit argument. I liken it to Star Wars: A New Hope. Both films are pure escapism and an absolute joy to watch.
Still weird to see boxofficemojo grinder to a halt like this, I wonder when they'll resume operations..
Honestly yeah, it was. TDKR was a very messy movie.I had more fun in The Avengers than TDKR. The dialogue is better in The Avengers than TDKR. Ironically, the plot in The Avengers made more sense than TDKR.
All in all, I'd say The Avengers is the better movie, IMO.
Apparently, still not sure if BOM is going to report them, though, they've been dead silent this past weekend.Aren't we seeing box office numbers today?
I love how people need to boost TDKR by throwing Avengers under the bus. Both were great movies and a lot of fun for very different reasons.
Some movies don't need to have depth to be great movies.
Avengers probably won't be one of those timeless works. It's CG will age. But the way the fights are framed, the way the camera flows fluidly from set piece to set piece, it screams of quality. It's not a deep story, the characters have limited development. But it doesn't hinder the experience. Because a deep story was not the point.
The point was capturing the formation of a superpowerful superhero team. That's going to need well choreographed destruction. Their focus was the right call.
You know when you feel that little tingle in the tip of your penis but you know it's not a desire to pee, yet you touch it just to understand it? When your butts clench tight but still a breeze escapes? That moment when the hair of your neck feels funny and you smile for no reason? That split second where you entertain the notion of how must Hulk's penis be like?
That's Avengers.
Dies Iræ;40167187 said:Avatar was very expensive CGI trash.
Avengers was comic movie gold.
I'm not even sure how this comparison is controversial??
Apparently, still not sure if BOM is going to report them, though, they've been dead silent this past weekend.
Managing to balance story with action is what makes or breaks these films. Dark Knight trilogy does this, Terminator 2 does this, Spiderman 1/2 does this. Avengers does not. Avengers is the Michael Bay of comic book movies whether you guys want to accept it or not. I have no problem if you enjoy Avengers that's fine but you can't claim 'it's a big dumb action movie and it does it so well that's why it's so good!' while also saying something like Avatar is the worst movie ever made. You just can't do that and still be taken serious.
You could say all of this about Avatar (which I think is much better than Avengers but gets torn apart on gaf).
Spiderman 2 had a mix of action and storytelling, that's why people loved it so much and still do. Avengers had absolutely nothing of substance. There was no reason for anything to happen at all except everyone's gonna die. I can't get excited about movies like that no matter how good the visuals may be.
Managing to balance story with action is what makes or breaks these films. Dark Knight trilogy does this, Terminator 2 does this, Spiderman 1/2 does this. Avengers does not. Avengers is the Michael Bay of comic book movies whether you guys want to accept it or not. I have no problem if you enjoy Avengers that's fine but you can't claim 'it's a big dumb action movie and it does it so well that's why it's so good!' while also saying something like Avatar is the worst movie ever made. You just can't do that and still be taken serious.
I'm not being a hater, I'm fine with Avengers having a thin plot and just being glossy comic book action, I understand why they took such a conventional and safe path, but if that's the way they're going to go for the rest of the sequels than you can count me out.
The Avengers is what Michael Bay tries to do, and fails. It's an excellent popcorn movie.
The term "popcorn movie" gets thrown around all the time, and lately it tends to mean a lack of quality. That's Emmerich and Bay's fault, and I think that's sad.
Raiders of the Lost Ark was a popcorn movie. It's the gold standard for popcorn movies. The Avengers is closer to Raiders than it is to Bay's garbage.
Great at least you won't shit up threads