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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

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bobs...onGaf

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The problem is that Extraction is a mode we should be able to play in general matchmaking, the fact that it seems like its only going to be on the DLC playlist is the problem.

I hope im wrong and they cycle it in as a general playlist.
 
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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Tunavi said:
THEYRE ADDING TEAM REGICIDE?

AFTER ALL THE COMPLAINTS THEY'RE ADDING MORE OF WHAT WE HATE?
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Who hates Regicide? I want FFA back, but I don't hate Regicide. Team version could be fun. As mentioned though, it seems like all of this has been scheduled out to 2015 or something. Every rotated playlist is already scheduled.

bobs99 ... said:
The problem is that Extraction is a mode we should be able to play in general matchmaking, the fact that it seems like its only going to be on the DLC playlist is the problem.

I hope im wrong and they cycle it in as a general playlist.
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I think you're wrong. Check the wording on the article again. DLC playlist AND Extraction playlist.
 
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Karl2177

Member
TCKaos said:
Yeah, I just need to chill for a minute. I'm getting too worked up by all of this.

I kind of suggest that we all do the same, though. Let's chill out and come back a bit more level headed. Today has been a bad day. Anyone want to do customs later? Say, 5:00 Central?
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I want to try out my custom settings. I have to finish up my Haven redo, but after that I'm down.
 
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u4iX

Member
IF YOU'RE HAVING HALO TROUBLE I FEEL BAD FOR YOU SON
I GOT 343 PROBLEMS BUT BUG FIXES AIN'T ONE

Just wish they would have addressed that they were looking into bugs, glitches, and balance fixes.
 
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TCKaos

Member
bobs99 ... said:
The problem is that Extraction is a mode we should be able to play in general matchmaking, the fact that it seems like its only going to be on the DLC playlist is the problem.

I hope im wrong and they cycle it in as a general playlist.
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...including a variety of designs, spaces for tight firefights or vehicle warfare, as well as 8 new achievements and a new Crimson DLC playlist. Extraction, a 5 vs. 5 objective-based game type where opposing Spartan teams are tasked with extracting assets from various sites around the map, will also be available for the first time in Multiplayer Matchmaking, on the same day that the Crimson Map Pack becomes available.
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They appear to be two separate lists.

Orochinagis said:
Extraction mode is on the disk but locked, the DLC maps not.
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It isn't locked, you can play it in custom games right now and forge it in to maps. It's just not in any playlist.
 
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Hydranockz

Member
sltPoison said:
OMG stop being so dramatic and just accept 343's new vision for Halo. Jesus. The game needs to keep with the times. Stop trying to hamper my enjoyment of the game. I can't stand HaloGAF anymore. Nothing but complainers.
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I'm assuming sarcasm given your song and dance about selling the game.
 
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Bronion

Member
bobs99 ... said:
The problem is that Extraction is a mode we should be able to play in general matchmaking, the fact that it seems like its only going to be on the DLC playlist is the problem.

I hope im wrong and they cycle it in as a general playlist.
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Extraction is being added as a playlist in general matchmaking.
The DLC playlist is totally separate and they haven't said what gametypes are in that yet.
 
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Arnie

Member
Digital Limit said:
Lol, just now? And they claimed to have tightening the JiP rules? What was the score when you joined? Or was it already over? I wonder what metric they're using to determine whether or not a match is almost over. Maybe it's shallowly just by time. Le shrug.
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I was choosing my loadout for the very first time and it ended.

Is there a reason why in FFA Throwback I can respawn instantly most of the time in KOTH, then every now and then I can't?
 
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Havok

Member
Digital Limit said:
Lol, just now? And they claimed to have tightening the JiP rules? What was the score when you joined? Or was it already over? I wonder what metric they're using to determine whether or not a match is almost over. Maybe it's shallowly just by time. Le shrug.
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Pretty sure it is just by time, and doesn't take score into account. Yesterday I joined into a CTF game that was 4-0 with 3-4 minutes left on the clock. The enemy team had our flag halfway across the map and were making their final cap. It lasted about 20 seconds after I joined (and prior to me and my two party members joining, the game was 5 on 1). It doesn't seem to work particularly well.
 
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Pop

Member
and "A NEW CRIMSON DLC PLAYLIST"

If not extraction then I'm still not excited about the crimson only playlist. Hell, I haven't played H4 in awhile anyway.
 
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Karl2177

Member
RIP campaign theatre
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RIP non-matte backgrounds
 
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Trey

Member
JIP was unnecessary. It doesn't really fix the overall problem - it only solves a part of it. And it introduces more issues than it fixes.
 
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Tunavi

Banned
Spartan Ops sucks (infinite respawns, extremely reused assets), no campaign theater, no file share or online functionality, no classic playlist, first map pack is 3 shitty BTB maps (like we didn't have enough), no death x's, they're adding ANOTHER regicide playlist, no FFA slayer, camo and jetpack are OP as fuck in loadouts, no consistent power weapon spawns, plasma pistols grenades in loadouts, instant respawn sucks, BR nerfed to hell, it should be a 4shot kill, they nerfed carbine as well, no 1 flag, no assault, personal ordinances give everyone a power weapon.

I've been trying to hold back my criticisms and I gave them some time to address their mistakes, but I can't hold back any longer. 343 sucks.
 
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MaximumFlipFlop

Banned
Hydranockz said:
I'm assuming sarcasm given your song and dance about selling the game.
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IT'S MY ROOMMATES COPY I ALREADY TOLD YOU A THOUSAND TIMES!!

Like I said, once Monday rolls around and I get that final achievement for Halo 4, the game is dead to me. I don't know why I am so compelled to 100% this, but it feels like the right send off for it.
 
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Blueblur1

Member
Tunavi said:
Spartan Ops sucks balls, no campaign theater, no file share or online functionality, no classic playlist, first map pack is 3 shitty BTB maps (like we didn't have enough), no death x's, they're adding ANOTHER regicide playlist, no FFA slayer, camo and jetpack are OP as fuck in loadouts, no consistent power weapon spawns, plasma pistols grenades in loadouts, instant respawn sucks, BR nerfed to hell, it should be a 4shot kill, they nerfed carbine as well, no 1 flag, no assault, personal ordinances give everyone a power weapon.

I've been trying to hold back my criticism and I gave them some time to address their mistakes, but 343 sucks.
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Yep, they're not doing a great job.
 
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TCKaos

Member
sltPoison said:
IT'S MY ROOMMATES COPY I ALREADY TOLD YOU A THOUSAND TIMES!!

Like I said, once Monday rolls around and I get that final achievement for Halo 4, the game is dead to me. I don't know why I am so compelled to 100% this, but it feels like the right send off for it.
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Crimson Map Pack adds achievements. I assume the other packs will, too. I also assume they'll be DLC specific, so that to 100% the game you have to purchase the maps.
 
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TCKaos

Member
Orochinagis said:
Modders only discovered Extraction if I remember correctly. Team Regicide is just a variant of protect the VIP.
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No no no no Extraction is already playable. You can play it in custom games (I think some of us played it launch week, even. I know u4ix talks about playing it in customs in the last Social Skirmish). I know what Team Regicide is, I need to know if it's an option in the Regicide menu. I'm not at home, so I can't check.

If it's an option you can toggle from the menu, great. That's nifty. There were, however, people specifically asking if such a thing would be possible earlier in the thread, and that leads me to believe that it isn't possible given the tools we have now.

To me that means that 343i has access to gametypes that we don't have yet or can possibly make more gametypes and release them without issuing a title update, which means the lack of One Flag or a proper Assault variant of Grifball is inexcusable.
 
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MaximumFlipFlop

Banned
TCKaos said:
Crimson Map Pack adds achievements. I assume the other packs will, too. I also assume they'll be DLC specific, so that to 100% the game you have to purchase the maps.
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Nah I am settling with base game achievements. I actually just realized I won't get 100% anyways because my 25 challenges achievement never unlocked.
 
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NullPointer

Member
Jetpack is fine. It makes you a completely wide open target following a predictable arc. Doesn't break any maps I've seen as all the jetpack power positions are reachable through regular jumps or thrust pack.
 
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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
NullPointer said:
Jetpack is fine. It makes you a completely open target in a predictable arc. Doesn't break any maps I've seen as all the jetpack power positions are reachable through regular jumps or thrust pack.
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Yeah, I've yet to be angry at any AA the way I was angry at Armor Lock in Reach. There has yet to be a game where I yell "FUCKING _(Insert AA here)_!!!!!"

Promethean Vision has made me angry a few times but lately no one uses it. A few jetpackers here and there, but most people are using other stuff now. They could take jetpack and vision out for all I care though.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I didn't know people knew more lyrics than just the chorus for that song.

Nas > JayZ

I seriously am dying for more info. It's nice to see we got more info about JiP fixes and such but damn I need more. Can we have a podcast please? That would be fantastic.
 
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Dirtbag

Member
I really dont think its that 343 is or isn't listening. I'm sure most of them are still on launch vacation and they dont do big patch jobs to a game a month old. All of what we are seeing was mostly created and ready to go before launch. I dont think you'll see much of anything till we are into 2013 personally.

They probably have a skeleton crew in the studio right now anyway.

Forge maps in matchmaking would be nice. Some custom game options would be huge.
Map designers would benefit by listening to everything the community is saying about visual que's in their maps for Halo 5. It's very hard to orient yourself in many of their maps.
 
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ncsuDuncan

Member
At no point does that Bulletin say "Extraction playlist".

It says "Crimson DLC playlist" but doesn't mention what gametypes it includes.
Then it describes a "new" gametype, Extraction, and that the first time it will be available in matchmaking is the same day the Crimson Map Pack comes out.

If those are two different playlists, that paragraph is very poorly constructed. Either:
A. More clearly state that Extraction is separate from the DLC playlist OR
B. Mention it as a footnote in the "Next Week's Matchmaking Playlist Update" as "coming in two weeks" instead of in the "Halo 4 Crimson Map Pack" section.

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It would be nice to know if DLC matching exists or if we're just stuck with specific playlists. Hopefully there aren't any bugs with JIP not using DLC matching or dumping people into games they can't play. "Sorry, you failed to load this map."

Team Regicide sounds much more balanced and competitive than FFA Regicide. Looking forward to trying it out. Glad to finally have a way to play Extraction in matchmaking as well, vague playlist descriptions aside.
 
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Tawpgun

Member
Tunavi said:
Spartan Ops sucks (infinite respawns, extremely reused assets), no campaign theater, no file share or online functionality, no classic playlist, first map pack is 3 shitty BTB maps (like we didn't have enough), no death x's, they're adding ANOTHER regicide playlist, no FFA slayer, camo and jetpack are OP as fuck in loadouts, no consistent power weapon spawns, plasma pistols grenades in loadouts, instant respawn sucks, BR nerfed to hell, it should be a 4shot kill, they nerfed carbine as well, no 1 flag, no assault, personal ordinances give everyone a power weapon.

I've been trying to hold back my criticisms and I gave them some time to address their mistakes, but I can't hold back any longer. 343 sucks.
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Join me.
Tawpgun said:
If no good news comes by the first Bulletin of the New Year... then 343 has lost my faith. I know they're a talented group of people that mean well and are going to make very successful games, I want to put that out there. But its clear as far as MP goes, that our interests aren't aligning and they're making no PUBLIC effort to address the issues I have with the game.

As super nice as something tangible would be by then, all I'm asking for is a confirmation of if they are working on it.
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u4iX said:
FOOLS WANNA KNOW WHERE MY X IS THOUGH
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This was good. Keep it going.

NullPointer said:
Jetpack is fine. It makes you a completely wide open target following a predictable arc. Doesn't break any maps I've seen as all the jetpack power positions are reachable through regular jumps or thrust pack.
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What the hell lol. This is literally the same response people used to defend the Reach jetpack.

It's not about Jetpacks reaching areas others cannot. That's a problem, but thats fixable with soft/hardkills.

Everyone here who thinks the jetpack is too powerful is talking about how its used to skip entire parts of the map.

ie. Instead of walking through the base and up the ramp to the snipe spawn in Solace, you can just jet up there. Just jetting up to highground whenever you want. Making your own highground whenever you want. Making your own sightlines. etc
 
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Jack Scofield

Member
NullPointer said:
Jetpack is fine. It makes you a completely wide open target following a predictable arc. Doesn't break any maps I've seen as all the jetpack power positions are reachable through regular jumps or thrust pack.
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It ruins smaller maps like Solace, in which a jetpacking enemy can completely bypass the cover you're attempting to hide behind. It really frustrating when you dip and dodge to escape fire and some guy just flies above the map and shoots you from above.
 
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