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[BloodMoney]

Would really like to know about SSD compatibility. I'd love to pop a 500GB SSD in this PS4... but am not going to spend the money until I know there is a solid performance gain.

 

[GameAddict411]

edit: never mind.

 

[itsgreen]

New update. from google translate :

"to update the sound development of the PS4. In the laboratory, the editor measures the "noise" that produces the console menu mode. After ten minutes of run time are the Sone 0815, measured 40 inches away from the device. At this distance is heard a slight noise. By comparison, the first version of the PS3 is after ten minutes at 0.83 sone."

Original text :"in Update zur Geräuschentwicklung der PS4. Im Labor misst die Redaktion den "Lärm", den die Konsole im Menümodus produziert. Nach zehn Minuten Laufzeit sind das 0.815 Sone, gemessen 40 Zentimeter entfernt vom Gerät. In dieser Entfernung ist ein leichtes Rauschen zu hören. Zum Vergleich: Die erste Version der PS3 liegt nach zehn Minuten bei 0.83 Sone."

I didn't have any doubts it would be reasonably quiet when in the menu.

I am a little concerned though when you play a game (for some time). That will be the interesting figure.

 

[Demigod Mac]

Would really like to know about SSD compatibility. I'd love to pop a 500GB SSD in this PS4... but am not going to spend the money until I know there is a solid performance gain.

Likewise, I'd like to know if putting a 128GB or 256GB SSD in it would be viable or would it complain about the storage being less than expected?

 

[Number45]

Likewise, I'd like to know if putting a 128GB or 256GB SSD in it would be viable or would it complain about the storage being less than expected?

I doubt this would happen. Until we know how much of that 500GB is lost to the OS though, I'm not sure I'd suggest such small drives.

 

[tehPete]

I'm starting to have doubts about whether they'll really disassemble the console :/

Please don't say that! It'll happen, in time. I hope.

I'm surprised no one has changed the thread title to reflect the minds blown by the Sony screw.

I'm surprised at the self-control being demonstrated by those here in not making every post some kind of humorous / lewd innuendo.

 

[gruenel]

They just wrote that they can't make a statement about the SATA interface yet. Dat NDA.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

They just wrote that they can't make a statement about the SATA interface yet. Dat NDA.

Does this mean it may not be SATA 2 after all? I doubt it has changed but you never know

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I'm starting to have doubts about whether they'll really disassemble the console :/

Same here.

Glass half full, etc etc.

 

[Nerix]

I'm starting to have doubts about whether they'll really disassemble the console :/

In the comments they said already, that they will do that in the coming weeks, not now.

"Nein, momentan gibt es leider keine weiteren Bilder zum Innenleben der Konsole. In kommenden Wochen bis zum Start der PS4 liefern wir derartige Details aber nach"

Translation: No, unfortunately there won´t be any more pictures of the console innards right now. In the coming weeks until PS4 launch we will provide these kind of details.

 

[gruenel]

In the comments they said already, that they will do that in the coming weeks, not now.



Translation: No, unfortunately there won´t be any more pictures of the console innards right now. In the coming weeks until PS4 launch we will provide these kind of details.

Ah, I missed that. Thanks.

 

[BloodMoney]

They just wrote that they can't make a statement about the SATA interface yet. Dat NDA.

... Sony would not restrict that information if the answer was the one we wanted.

 

[gruenel]

... Sony would not restrict that information if the answer was the one we wanted.

It's probably more like "don't open up the console", not "don't tell them it's SATA2!"

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

In the comments they said already, that they will do that in the coming weeks, not now.



Translation: No, unfortunately there won´t be any more pictures of the console innards right now. In the coming weeks until PS4 launch we will provide these kind of details.

Thanks.

Window closed, I'll wait for the inevitable GAF thread when someone somewhere does it.

 

[JJD]

Ok now that we know where the HDD is located can someone tel me what is this strange cover near the bottom :

Well my insider friend told me that it's where the secondary dedicated GPU will be placed.

Sony didn't include it yet to fool MS into thinking the difference between the PS4 and the Xbone is negligible.

And because of NDAs.

Soon everything will be pretty clear, and the real power of the PS4 (around 6.7 hyper flops) will be revealed!

Spoiler

Take that MisterXmedia! =D

 

[netBuff]

Well my insider friend told me that it's where the secondary dedicated GPU will be placed.

Sony didn't include it yet to fool MS into thinking the difference between the PS4 and the Xbone is negligible.

And because of NDAs.

Soon everything will be pretty clear, and the real power of the PS4 (around 6.7 hyper flops) will be revealed!

Spoiler

Take that MisterXmedia! =D

I think you are mistaken, this is where the local cloud will be inserted before shippment.

 

[BloodMoney]

It's probably more like "don't open up the console", not "don't tell them it's SATA2!"

I'm going to shed a tear if it's not SATA3. I mean honestly... what kind of cost difference are we talking about between the two formats? A nickel?

 

[Hanmik]

 

[tipoo]

For balls sake, they need to listen to the red button and start tearing it apart.

 

[BloodMoney]

and it's packed full of llallo.

 

[Kuro]

Ok now that we know where the HDD is located can someone tel me what is this strange cover near the bottom :

Probably the serial code sticker

 

[Hanmik]

DS3 weighs 190gram..

 

[Mung]

DS3 weighs 190gram..

Ha! Love the German thoroughness of what they're doing.

 

[gruenel]

Ha! Love the German thoroughness of what they're doing.

They didn't even use a high precision scale. As a German, I am ashamed.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Are we there yet?

Ok now that we know where the HDD is located can someone tel me what is this strange cover near the bottom :

It's the SLI connector, silly.

 

[fatgamecat]

Boot time on a dev console is probably longer as it has to load more stuff into memory.

I'd love SATA3 but I'm expecting SATA2.

 

[mckmas8808]

DS3 weighs 190gram..

How much is that in American weight?

 

[Pug]

They didn't even use a high precision scale. As a German, I am ashamed.

Yep where's the four figure balance?

 

[Ramma2]

DS3 weighs 190gram..

Xbox 360 wireless with batteries is 265g.

 

[DBT85]

How much is that in American weight?

About a big mac.

 

[dragonbane]

About a big mac.

Oh god. Hahaha. Laughed way more at that than I should have...

 

[mattp]

are 12.5mm drives all that common?
the only drives on newegg are 9.5 or 15

 

[tipoo]

are 12.5mm drives all that common?
the only drives on newegg are 9.5 or 15

some 1TB laptop drives were 12.5mm. And this still does mean it can take 9.5, of course.

 

[mattp]

well yeah i know you can still use 9.5, but what i'm getting at is, if most of the higher capacity drives are 15, youre basically stuck with 9.5 anyway then. the extra space for fitting 12.5 doesnt seem all that useful if no one is making drives that size

 

[DBT85]

Oh god. Hahaha. Laughed way more at that than I should have...

I checked after posting. Wiki says a Big Mac serving is about 215g lol.

Not a bad guess on my part.

 

[Skeff]

well yeah i know you can still use 9.5, but what i'm getting at is, if most of the higher capacity drives are 15, youre basically stuck with 9.5 anyway then. the extra space for fitting 12.5 doesnt seem all that useful if no one is making drives that size

There's currently a bit of a limit on physical size and we've come to a standstill, 2TB is available on 15mm right now and the difficulty in shrinking right now is huge, so I'm pretty sure 2TB@12.5mm will be here long before 2TB@9.5mm

I'm going to shed a tear if it's not SATA3. I mean honestly... what kind of cost difference are we talking about between the two formats? A nickel?

$1? so 100million dollars across a generation?

 

[deadpixel]

Can't wait to lump my 1.5TB drive in there.

 

[travisbickle]

Google's telling me the launch PS3 was 5kg.

 

[BloodMoney]

$1? so 100million dollars across a generation?

$1.00 now
$0.05 in 2 years.

 

[DiddyInAHellcat]

Can't wait to lump my 1.5TB drive in there.

X2

 

[Dremark]

The PS3 really does look out of place in that mix.

I was thinking the PS1 really stood out myself.

There is undoubtedly the most family resemblance between the PS Double and the PS Quad though.

 

[Exis]

I have a 500GB SSD in my PS3 right now that I will swap with the drive in the PS4.

That should work right?

 

[Shadow780]

So...this thing takes 2.5" HDDs right?

 

[tipoo]

Man, these guys are slow.

So...this thing takes 2.5" HDDs right?

Yes, and in regular (9.5) or medium-large (12.5) mm height.

 

[Phades]

It makes me wonder if someone is going to be selling "upgraded HDD" PS4s after launch on Ebay or whatever as an elaborate scheme to harvest the screws from multiple units without taking a huge hit to the wallet.

 

[Lord Error]

lol @ dat screw, seriously.

Are there any 7200RPM drives that are as silent as Samsung's or Toshiba's 5400 drives? I hate to hear clickety-clik from these drives as they're seeking.

 

[Shadow780]

Yes, and in regular (9.5) or medium-large (12.5) mm height.

Thanks, what's the largest notebook drive now? I want to get one on day one and put it in.

Edit: man those WD 2TB drives doesn't seem to fit *

 

[Kaneda Shotaro]

I can't find any clear pics or videos. Is there only one screw holding the top on that you take off to replace the HDD? And where is the screw? Not the front obviously.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Now that we know Sony has stuck with 5400 rpm, I will as well for my 1TB drive.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

How much of an impact would SATA III have on gaming over SATA II?