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Any Switch owners feeling a tad miffed?
- Thread starter Leonard Washington
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Preach. And while there's a lot of games that you listed that I also bought, I could name another 15 that you are missing from your 3rd party lists like the numerous Psikyo shmup ports for $8 a pop (a steal compared to what a physical version would cost in today's market), Cave Story+, Disgaea 5, Ikaruga, Danmaku 3, Slime-San, Sushi Strikers, Runner3, Bomberman, Owlboy, Overcooked, etc. etc.
Yep, it's a really indie-heavy system right now, but holy moley it is a diverse system with plenty of good games to play, and it's portable. Please.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Well maybe if you only have a Switch you buy everything there? I have XB1, PS4, PC and Switch. I just bought my Switch and after Mario Kart, Zelda and Splatoon 2 (sale) I was left looking through the list of games scratching my head. I want Arms. I borrowed Mario Odyssey and don't like it. Tennis looks fun? The rest are strange Japanese games, indies and ports that are better elsewhere.
Leonard Washington
Banned
Those who are getting geeked about old ass ports are so amusing and the very definition of Stockholm syndrome.
New platform = new games. Not the same old shiz at a higher pricepoint.
To me the Switch’s first year feels like the Wii Us last yet people are so full of Kool Aid that they’ll snap up any old dross to keep the dust off their console, even if it is ancient.
Either way enjoy and keep chugging that beverage, the Nintendo way!
New platform = new games. Not the same old shiz at a higher pricepoint.
To me the Switch’s first year feels like the Wii Us last yet people are so full of Kool Aid that they’ll snap up any old dross to keep the dust off their console, even if it is ancient.
Either way enjoy and keep chugging that beverage, the Nintendo way!
ThatStupidLion
Member
I always wonder if the people defending the switches third party (indie) ports/releases are the same people who attacked or defended the vita for being in the same situation.
Sure im a little miffed. But its still a perfect companion to ps4. Ill prob hang onto it as i imagine their library will become vast like their handhelds were in time. Im honestly content with like 4 big games a year on it.
So far this yr i was excited to play kirby, octopath, aces, odyssey, sushi striker...
Unfortunately ive been let down by all of them, except octopath(yet)... but i was pleasantly surprised by fortnite and pokemon quest.
atill excited to play xenoblade 2, sonic mania, and hollow knight though
Sure im a little miffed. But its still a perfect companion to ps4. Ill prob hang onto it as i imagine their library will become vast like their handhelds were in time. Im honestly content with like 4 big games a year on it.
So far this yr i was excited to play kirby, octopath, aces, odyssey, sushi striker...
Unfortunately ive been let down by all of them, except octopath(yet)... but i was pleasantly surprised by fortnite and pokemon quest.
atill excited to play xenoblade 2, sonic mania, and hollow knight though
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/06/nintendo-to-close-european-headquarters-games only article google shows me when trying to backtrack to articles mentioning it
Dont recall if there were more reported reconstructions!
FrostyLemon
Member
I have a Switch, PS4 and Xbox One. I wouldn't buy any game multiplatform game on PS4 or Xbox over Switch because I value the portability. There's absolutely no reason to play indies on anything else. Same with the remasters really. Dark Souls remastered on PS4 is nothing special over the original. On Switch it's going to be a new experience.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
A new experience like 60fps?
FrostyLemon
Member
I can see the value in 60fps for fighting, racing and twitch shooters, but dark souls is slow and clunky as hell. Doesn't swing it for me over portability.
Leonard Washington
Banned
A very good point and one I think that a swift glance at said posters history would no doubt confirm. Point for point at their cycles id say the Vita trumped the Switch easily at this point in terms of support and that doesn’t really fare well, all things considered.
Thank you. Makes a lot of sense. If one thinks like Nintendo.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
I've owned a Vita since Day One and it didn't have a library nearly as diverse after the first year as the Switch currently does.
I don't think the two things (criticism of Vita vs defense of Switch) are in any way correlated.
JCK75
Member
E3 was highly disappointing and I wanted more heavy hitters sure, but when I look at my current library along with all of the existing games I want to buy and play along with the insane numbers of indy games that come out each week, I'm going to pretty content with my switch until the games I want to see come out.
I went on a trip last week with the family and it really hit me how vital the switch was to the situation.. I brought the dock along and it was nice to keep the kiddo occupied in the car, then my dad who was a few rooms down would come over and we'd play 4 player mario Kart, the cable selection was crap so Hulu kept the kid with plenty to watch (Netflix and Youtube need to come round it out, but so much better than a tablet because of the dock). I'll never regret buying it.
I went on a trip last week with the family and it really hit me how vital the switch was to the situation.. I brought the dock along and it was nice to keep the kiddo occupied in the car, then my dad who was a few rooms down would come over and we'd play 4 player mario Kart, the cable selection was crap so Hulu kept the kid with plenty to watch (Netflix and Youtube need to come round it out, but so much better than a tablet because of the dock). I'll never regret buying it.
ThatStupidLion
Member
I too owned a vita, not day one got the white AC edition when it came out...but that part of my reply wasnt about the first year library its about people using the same exact argument about indie ports coming to switch thus fleshing out its library, as people did with the vita. So, to reiterate, my comment was if the people using that same argument are the same people who defended the vita in the same manner (logical) or are people who attacked the vita but are now hypocritical (humorous).
And if its neither, and the people didnt critcize the vita, yet are still using the same argument, then i find it funny and logical.
And surely you must be trolling if you dont think people ripping on vita for being an indie/port machine is in no way similar to what people are doing with switch.
Fbh
Member
This is why this year was bad:
Twitter: Smash and Nintendo are the most talked about thing of E3 2018
It's only twitter but Nintendo was the most talked about thing during E3, Smash was the most talked about new game, and the smash date announcement and Ridley announcement were the number one and two most talked about moments of E3. Just think about this... people had more to say about the release date of a Switch exclusive than the reveal of long awaited multiplatform games like Re2 Remake or DMC 5.
I totally understand people here finding this year and E3 disappointing for Nintendo, I personally agree. But I think for the vast majority of the Nintendo target audience Smash is all you need. Why invest in more exclusives this year if a ton of people are going to buy a switch for Smash (and to a lesser degree Pokemon let's go!) anyway?
Twitter: Smash and Nintendo are the most talked about thing of E3 2018
It's only twitter but Nintendo was the most talked about thing during E3, Smash was the most talked about new game, and the smash date announcement and Ridley announcement were the number one and two most talked about moments of E3. Just think about this... people had more to say about the release date of a Switch exclusive than the reveal of long awaited multiplatform games like Re2 Remake or DMC 5.
I totally understand people here finding this year and E3 disappointing for Nintendo, I personally agree. But I think for the vast majority of the Nintendo target audience Smash is all you need. Why invest in more exclusives this year if a ton of people are going to buy a switch for Smash (and to a lesser degree Pokemon let's go!) anyway?
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Panajev2001a
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It makes sense, but it is also shortsighted for me. It is like accepting never to get anything more than their profitable niche by reinforcing that all your choices are about short term gain and that you are happy being the second console for many owners and not the primary.
Also, sure you can sell consoles using Smash as main attraction, but the big money is not in HW sales, but accessories and especially games. There should be an incentive in releasing new games for existing customers too.
I am missing smaller Nintendo games in the current release shedule, titles like mario&luigi, tingle rupee rose land, luigi’s mansion , top-down Zelda, project smaller development should be working on 
overall I have more then enough games to play on the system but Nintendo has been quiet for a long time About new games.... and where the heck is Pikmin 4?
overall I have more then enough games to play on the system but Nintendo has been quiet for a long time About new games.... and where the heck is Pikmin 4?cubicle47b
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A lot of the smaller Nintendo games were released fairly recently or in some cases haven't been released yet on 3DS. The Luigi's Mansion port is a 2018 3DS release. Mario & Luigi is a 2019 3DS release. I'd expect smaller releases to start on the Switch next year. I do find Nintendo's decision to not release a Switch version of these games baffling. Who doesn't want a 1080p version of Samus Returns or A Link Between Worlds. It's not like they're pumping out these games in a way we'll get tired of them like they were with the New Super Mario Bros.I am missing smaller Nintendo games in the current release shedule, titles like mario&luigi, tingle rupee rose land, luigi’s mansion , top-down Zelda, project smaller development should be working on
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VertigoOA
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Without a separate home console and handheld to support you would think they would’ve addressed this situation. The software situation is dire and is so far the same ole same ole from the Wii and Wii U era and that’s quite possibly my least favorite era of Nintendo output.
Makes you wonder if Nintendo designed the gamecube right and without the stupid design for the hardware, controller and mini dvds how things would’ve turned out. The GameCube was awesome, competitive and was home to many hardcore catered games. I miss competitive Nintendo. Now they just phone all that shit in. The one incrdible
Zelda game every 20 years don’t fucking cut it. Always thought Iwata took the company in a horrible direction with the gimmicks because now they’re trying to sell us friggin CARDBOARD! But yay more Kirby. More Yoshi. More captain toad. Yuck! That’s not the Nintendo I once held to a high standard. You couldn’t pay me to play that overpriced shovelware.
PS - and when it comes down to it. I’m a Metroid fan. When it comes to Metroid; Zelda can fuck off. Super Metroid is the greatest of all time, Prime Trilogy is the best thing Nintendo has done that’s not BotW and they farmed out the sequel to Namco Bandai and the developers of one piece and other generic anime shit and that’s fucking disgusting.
Makes you wonder if Nintendo designed the gamecube right and without the stupid design for the hardware, controller and mini dvds how things would’ve turned out. The GameCube was awesome, competitive and was home to many hardcore catered games. I miss competitive Nintendo. Now they just phone all that shit in. The one incrdible
Zelda game every 20 years don’t fucking cut it. Always thought Iwata took the company in a horrible direction with the gimmicks because now they’re trying to sell us friggin CARDBOARD! But yay more Kirby. More Yoshi. More captain toad. Yuck! That’s not the Nintendo I once held to a high standard. You couldn’t pay me to play that overpriced shovelware.
PS - and when it comes down to it. I’m a Metroid fan. When it comes to Metroid; Zelda can fuck off. Super Metroid is the greatest of all time, Prime Trilogy is the best thing Nintendo has done that’s not BotW and they farmed out the sequel to Namco Bandai and the developers of one piece and other generic anime shit and that’s fucking disgusting.
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Ceadeus
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I would add that I liked what I've played so far, but the system has so much potential. There is à lack of some genre support. Like arpg, where is Diablo? Anything mmo also. Order and chaos 2 maybe? Then advance wars too. A tactical rpg like FF tactic. There is also no grinding online fps like cod.
This is a very good point and for people that never played the Wii U version of Smash but maybe the 3DS version instead (like myself), it makes Smash Switch all the more hype-inducing. It's my first console Smash since Wii's Brawl.
I think the Switch, right now, is more of a valued platform if you loved the Wii's output but never got a Wii U. The ports people are annoyed with? Brand new games for people like me (really want to get DKC: TF and the Bayonetta games soon). When I got my Switch, I got the must-own trio (Mario Kart, Mario Odysee, Zelda BotW) and really happy with it. Even got Splatoon 2 and plan on getting the DLC Expansion soon. That's a LOT of stuff for me and I still got more to get if I really want like Kirby, Mario Tennis Aces and Hyrule Warriors Legends.
If you owned a Wii U, the Switch is only valuable if you want portable versions of Wii U games and some key releases like Splatoon 2/Mario Odysee appeal to you. It's a shame Nintendo didn't do a good enough job to get Wii U owners on board, but hey, I think the first two years of the Switch is to sell to the lasped Nintendo fan, then suck the hardcore fans back with FE, Mainline Pokemon and more next year.
There are tons of RPGs on the NS. I have a bunch and just bought The Lost Child for that dungeon crawling, level grinding, experience. We have Labyrinth of Refrain coming in a couple of months for more dungeon crawling goodness. Ys 8 is next week for action RPGs. I'll admit that if you like loot grinding RPGs and MMORPGs, then you're SOL. However, there are lots of other kinds of RPGs even tactical ones like the Mercenaries games (I bought that one, but haven't played it yet). RPG guys shouldn't be hurtin' at all. Unless you're after AAA RPGs. As an RPG fan myself, I have more games to play than I have time.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Y'all talking about SRPGs and havent mentioned the ultimate version of Disgaea 5? C'mon. That is one of my favorite games in my Switch library.
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I forgot about that one, but I have it as well. Great game! Just thinking about stuff that came out recently.
cireza
Member
Totally agree with this.
I am waiting for Octopath and that's it. All other multiplat will be played on Xbox One X.
Ceadeus
Gold Member
It's an awesome game yeah I own it too. Maybe I simply prefer the simpleness of FF. Disgaea kind of ends up ennoying me with its little girl voice cast. A good game yet with the anime stigma..
Always been more of a traditionnal guy.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
I think this outcome was pretty predictable.
Even though its a great little console, it would ultimately depend on its adoption by the users and 3rd party developers. Nintendo cannot output enough games on its own to have a full decent year, they just play their best sellers and hope that other devs will jump in.
Even though its a great little console, it would ultimately depend on its adoption by the users and 3rd party developers. Nintendo cannot output enough games on its own to have a full decent year, they just play their best sellers and hope that other devs will jump in.
cubicle47b
Member
The Switch has or will soon have Disgaea 5 Complete, the original Disgaea, Wargroove, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Fire Emblem Three Houses, The Banner Saga I-III, and Mario+Rabbids Kingdom Battle. If there’s one genre it has a wide variety of quality titles in it’s SRPGs (and platformers).
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FloatingIslands
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I'm not feeling miffed at all. Smash Bros and Mario Party the same year is awesome!! Couch-play blessings
Fox Mulder
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TwiztidElf
Member
What shmups do you recommend?
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Dragon Blaze, Strikers 1945 and 1945 II, Blazing Star, Danmaku 3, Ikaruga, Ghost Pilot, Zero Gunner 2, Gunbird... the list goes on and on.
You could also keep an eye open for the upcoming Psyvariar delta, Shinkhondo, and a few more than I can't recall off the top of my head.
Doesn't this topic come up with every Nintendo console? You don't buy Nintendo consoles for an avalanche of games, you buy it for a couple of gems a year. I mean, it doesn't get multiplat support to the same degree at all so what could a Nintendo console purchaser ever expect. If Sony and MS didn't have the multiplat support they'd be light on games too.
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ThatStupidLion
Member
Whats mindblowing is that this business stategy freaking works for them. Fuck that noise.
Battlechili
Banned
I'm happy with my Switch! I only own two games for it so far (Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild), but they've both been really enjoyable and I still feel like there are quite a few more games to look forward to afterwards! At the very least, after I'm finished with Xenoblade 2 I'd like to get my hands on Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition. I never played it or any Warriors game so it seems like this would be a really great method to get it thanks to the Switch version having all the DLC. After that I have Senran Kagura: Shinobi Refle, Pokemon Let's Go Eevee, and Shin Megami Tensei V on the horizon to look forward to. I don't really mind the ports either. 3rd party support was one of the things Nintendo consoles often had issues with, so the fact that the Switch is doing okay on that front is cool imo! I'm probably going to double dip on Cave Story+ and Dust: An Elysian Tail just so I can get my hands on physical copies. Plus that coop mode on CS+ seems kinda neat.
Redshirt
Banned
Feel the same way.
Perhaps my wallet is a bit miffed, and long for the days when my main system was a Wii U.
Bought three third-party retail games a few hours ago, two at full price. Spent the equivalent of 100+ USD (1100 Norwegian kroner) on indie games last weekend. Will buy Mario Tennis plus a new bunch of indie games since I finally am free from work and can get some gaming done next week.
Some of these games are also available on other systems, which is fine by me. Let us play enjoyable games on the systems that fit our lifestyles the best. For me it is the Nintendo Switch.
Bought three third-party retail games a few hours ago, two at full price. Spent the equivalent of 100+ USD (1100 Norwegian kroner) on indie games last weekend. Will buy Mario Tennis plus a new bunch of indie games since I finally am free from work and can get some gaming done next week.
Some of these games are also available on other systems, which is fine by me. Let us play enjoyable games on the systems that fit our lifestyles the best. For me it is the Nintendo Switch.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
The reason I bought the switch was for the games I have now. Once Smash releases I could be perfectly happy if I never get another game. I wouldn't turn down a proper side scrolling Metroid or a Luigi's Mansion port, mind you. But I know Nintendo doesn't love me enough to make those and I can accept that.
So many Switch owners never played those games on WiiU, though. For a lot of us it was the first time. Nintendo probably had to port them to try to recoup their losses.
So many Switch owners never played those games on WiiU, though. For a lot of us it was the first time. Nintendo probably had to port them to try to recoup their losses.
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Fox Mulder
Member
they are what they are. You buy nintendo hardware for their first party games, many of which are always great. Even the weak ass wii with grandma games and dumb waggle controls had mario galaxy 1/2, two zeldas, a new donkey kong country, the metroid prime trilogy, rhythm heaven fever, sin and punishment, etc.
Fbh
Member
I still think it all falls into their strategy. You are right, they make money from accessories and games and that's when their shitty pricing helps. People that will pick up a Switch for smash or Pokémon are then probably going to pick up Mario Kart and Zelda and Odyssey...all of which will still be $60 by then. And since there's several games with local multiplayer (Smash being one of the big ones), they are also going to pick up expensive additional controllers.
Sony can't afford to still charge $60 for horizon because people buying a PS4 at the end of this year will have so many newer third party options. Why spend $60 on an old game like horizon when you can get Red Dead 2, or Battlefield V, or the new Assassin's Creed for the same price (or 2-3 games that aren't even a year old on some sale).
But Switch? For better or worse they are aware that most people buy their consoles to play their games. Yeah it means that for a large part of your audience (not everyone though) you'll be a secondary console, but it also means people will buy your $60 ports and $60 2 years + games.
Ixiah
Banned
It looks like they frontloaded the Switch with all their Heavyhitters and are now a bit dry, but then again what did the first 2 years of Ps4 look like ?
I also hear People talk a lot of how Nintendo combined handheld and console and they should throw out another Hit Game every 2-3 Months....what ?
Would you realy want another Zelda/Mario/Kirby this Year and then next Year again ?
Nintendo doesnt have Ubisoft numbers.
I also hear People talk a lot of how Nintendo combined handheld and console and they should throw out another Hit Game every 2-3 Months....what ?
Would you realy want another Zelda/Mario/Kirby this Year and then next Year again ?
Nintendo doesnt have Ubisoft numbers.
TwiztidElf
Member
Thanks for that. Mostly ports and remasters. Not knocking the quality though. Hopefully if they're selling well we might get some original stuff.
I'm more of a horizontal shmup person than a vertical, but I might give that Danmaku a look. Thanks.
visiblemode
Member
And NSMB U/Luigi, and Super Mario 3D world....
Except you left off two major Mario games...
Jubenhimer
Member
The people who are calling this par for course for Nintendo or saying this is another Wii U, simply don't realize how much better they have it on Switch. There's no software drought, Nintendo's publishing at least one major game every month, the Switch is getting several major third party releases this year, multiple ones each month. Ports or not, you can't call this a software drought. This isn't like the Wii U which often went 8 months without a major release. The Switch is getting great games on a regular basis.
Chairman Tickles
Banned
I am not miffed, I have not even had time to finish Xenoblade or Mario and Rabbids Kingdom battle. Then there's so many great indies on the store I've not even tried yet.
EDMIX
Member
That is saying a lot about this year's line up for that system.
I think Octopath looks like a great game too, simply that something would be horribly wrong if I just came out and stated Lost Sphere for PS4 is my most anticipated PS4 game or something. Not saying anything is wrong with either game, simply that those are small titles through out the year that I enjoy playing, but they don't make my year, I can't even list some of those games as my top 20 in terms of top games played that year. Just smaller titles in between bigger grander titles that release. I'm sure both are great, but they have no place next to Red Dead 2, Dragon Quest XI, God Of War, Battlefield V, Divinity 2, Yakuza 2 remake etc.
I'm waiting til Animal Crossing comes to buy a Switch, I'll buy some of those other games like Octopath used online when that time comes.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Except I don't consider Octopath same as Lost Sphere. After playing the the two demos Octopath is looking much bigger and much better game than Lost Sphere and I personally excited about Octopath as much as I'm excited for Dragon Quest XI.
In other hand I dont give fuck about BFV, to me it same trash EA always makes.
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EDMIX
Member
I disagree.
This is another Wii U. Many who owned the Wii U still talked about all of its great Nintendo games, doesn't mean its getting lots of quality games compared to PC, XONE, PS4 etc. They are getting the least in terms of quality compared to the other platforms. "There's no software drought" There is in terms of AAA content.... The AMOUNT of games was never the issue, the lack of AAA was the issue. Its like saying Switch just got a bunch of ios or steam early access games thus "problem solved".
When E3 comes around and The Division 2, Assassins Creed, Anthem, Cyberpunk 2077, Battlefield V, Red Dead Redemption 2, Resident Evil 2 and many more are not coming to Switch, saying "There's no software drought" means next to nothing if they are not getting those games. Call it what you want, but Switch not getting those games, doesn't help Nintendo or its fans. This is very much being treated JUST like Wii U. ie here are 1 to 2 AAA Nintendo games a year maybe and huge lack of AAA 3rd party....