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[Up] James Gunn fired for racism, jokes about rape and pedophilia

Fnord

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Drake said:
This is leftists tacits turned right back on themselves. I think it's hilarious how salty they are.
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It really is. Just that one tweet on the first page about AIDS would have generated a massive protest campaign and calls for someone's head if it were a conservative that posted it. I feel about this about the same as I felt about the Rosanne thing and the (don't remember her name) Guild Wars chick. Business is going to act in a way that protects their brand. Want to keep your job, don't be stupid on social media.

From a non-business standpoint, none of this really bothers me (the actual speech). People should be allow to say whatever they want. No skin off my teeth. And the faux outrage by either side is absolutely laughable.
 
DragoonKain

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I remember in the movie American History X, Avery Brooks goes to see Ed Norton in prison and he asks Ed Norton has anything he's done end up doing him any good? And then it really hit home with Ed Norton that all of the neo-Nazi bullshit he got caught up in was just that. Bullshit. It brought nothing good to his life.

I just wish these witch hunt people take the time to ask themselves what good is any of this behavior doing. Trying to destroy the lives of other people over old tweets or things they've said in articles from years ago. What good has any of this done? Are their lives better because James Gunn was fired? Do they really feel good about themselves? Does the mob feel good about themselves for being a driving force behind someone getting fired? Did it make their lives any better? These people may get a power rush from it now, but I'm telling you, years from now people are going to look back and wonder what it was all for.
 
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Cybrwzrd

Cybrwzrd

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Air Zombie Meat said:
True but afaik Depp hasn't been caught making jokes about fucking kids. I think the pedo stuff is specifically the thing that made them act.
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What's the hardest part about walking through a field of dead babies?

Your erection

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Sorry, bad jokes are just that. Bad Jokes.
 
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guggnichso

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pramod said:
The left turned mob outrage into a weapon in their political war, and now they are crying that it's being used against them. Well boo-hoo.
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„The left“? Ever heard of satanic panic, the whole stupid motion to get video games banned, the whole outrage about VHS video violence back then? THAT was „the left“? Gee, you learn something new every day.
 
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Air Zombie Meat

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Cybrwzrd said:
What's the hardest part about walking through a field of dead babies?

Your erection

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Sorry, bad jokes are just that. Bad Jokes.
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It's not me you have to convince, it's the executives at Disney. Go tell them they should use their family friendly image to stick up for bad jokes. People keep talking about this as though it's a failing of society when it's just some soulless megacorp trying to protect it's image.
 
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Cybrwzrd

Cybrwzrd

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guggnichso said:
„The left“? Ever heard of satanic panic, the whole stupid motion to get video games banned, the whole outrage about VHS video violence back then? THAT was „the left“? Gee, you learn something new every day.
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Really some of those came from "both sides". I mean hell, Tipper Gore famously lead the PMRC in a campaign to censor music in the 80's.
 
Pumpkin Seeds

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The other aspect about the right using the left's outrage mob monster against them is that the #Resist left keeps tying itself to corporations while the right, ejected from "acceptable society" make their money via direct business to the customer. We're talking Patreon and sales from their own websites.

Pewdiepie isn't the right, but he is an example of the outrage mob attacking his corporate connection.. and it not really hurting him because his financials work outside of that system. Cernovich doesn't make money through major companies but rather his own book sales and donations. It's the corporate dependent versus the self-employed.
 
Cybrwzrd

Cybrwzrd

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Air Zombie Meat said:
It's not me you have to convince, it's the executives at Disney. Go tell them they should use their family friendly image to stick up for bad jokes. People keep talking about this as though it's a failing of society when it's just some soulless megacorp trying to protect it's image.
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He worked for Troma. Disney knew.
 
guggnichso

guggnichso

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Cybrwzrd said:
Really some of those came from "both sides". I mean hell, Tipper Gore famously lead the PMRC in a campaign to censor music in the 80's.
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Yep, you’re surely right. Still my argument stands, those are tactics that have definitely not been invented by „the left“ alone and certainly not in the times of Twitter.
Edit: also, to make some things clear, I‘m not an american and I don’t really consider the american Democrat Party to be on the „left“.
 
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Air Zombie Meat

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Cybrwzrd said:
He worked for Troma. Disney knew.
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I know that. My point was that his pedo jokes that were being circulated on the internet made disney freak out because of their image (kid friendly company) so they fired him to protect it. What are you finding disagreeable about that assessment?
 
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DeepEnigma

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Please, let's put a halt to the "accussations without proof" game. This behavior has hurt too many people already. And we are seing too much of it in this thread.
By the way, this was the guy, which is his friend that shared the "video" of the young girls singing with his comment about them "touching themselves".

Where there is smoke...
 
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Cybrwzrd

Cybrwzrd

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Air Zombie Meat said:
I know that. My point was that his pedo jokes that were being circulated on the internet made disney freak out because of their image (kid friendly company) so they fired him to protect it. What are you finding disagreeable about that?
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They should have had a spine and stood up for a man who made them millions?
 
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Air Zombie Meat

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Cybrwzrd said:
They should have had a spine and stood up for a man who made them millions?
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So you thought I was arguing that they were right when I was actually just laying out the facts. Thanks for wasting my time. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, I just think thats the nature of big business. It isn't always fair or reasonable.
 
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Drake

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"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules "
-Saul Alinsky

It sucks being held up to your own standard, doesn't it?
 
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It's Jeff

It's Jeff

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Phoenix RISING said:
I spent 10 years of my life in academia hanging around English departments around everywhere but the flyover states and never encountered one that that you describe.
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Not quite sure how to help you with that. Seems you're missing the point of my post and nitpicking an experience of mine that doesn't match yours, or calling me a liar.

How should we settle this? Trade dismissive, condescending remarks for a few hours or cut this off before we take this discussion somewhere beneath both us?
 
DeepEnigma

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guggnichso said:
The song they sang was called „I touch myself“.
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No shit, lol.

Where did I say it wasn't?

My point is, his friend posted on his blog "If he liked the video of the 13 year olds touching themselves", and he commented that "he came all over his face."

His friend that asked that question, in which he responded, was the one arrested for child porn.

Again, where there is smoke...
 
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bitbydeath

bitbydeath

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DeepEnigma said:
No shit, lol.

Where did I say it wasn't?

My point is, his friend posted on his blog "If he liked the video of the 13 year olds touching themselves", and he commented that "he came all over his face."

His friend that asked that question, in which he responded, was the one arrested for child porn.

Again, where there is smoke...
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Nah, it’s just humour some don’t find funny.

Like this -

 
LegendOfKage

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Drake said:
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules "
-Saul Alinsky

It sucks being held up to your own standard, doesn't it?
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Option A) Admit that 10 year old comments shouldn't be held against someone as evidence that they're a horrible person now (grab her by the pussy).

Option B) Fire James Gunn.

Not that I'm defending Trump. It's just that he's said plenty of far more recent awful things that should be talked about instead, but people really don't want to let go of those pussy grabbing comments.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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KevinKeene said:
Stop making horrible accusations.
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How did I make an accusation when there's an article for the guy getting indicted?

I'm not in support of him getting fired or anyone for that matter over Twitter's false altruism outrage, just like you. My smoke comment, is how people view things in today's climate, especially when ones/friends that make the same jokes with you, are getting arrested for actually doing it.

The only thing I laugh at is the "karma" from him relishing others getting fired and then it came down on him.
 
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Gander

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bitbydeath said:
Isn’t there life over when going to spend there remaining days in prison as well? It’s a lose-lose scenario for those wrongly convicted.
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Say you get 25 to life and you are able to prove your innocence within the first 5 years it's better than serving the whole thing.
 
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Telephone Man

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I don't see much issue with Disney firing him, as they have to protect thier image.

But this is no "victory" for the right. This doesn't prove any point in thier favor and only (predictably) proves that they can be just as petty as the some in the left.

The tribalism and layers upon layers of hypocrisy is embarrasing. Grow up.
 
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bitbydeath

bitbydeath

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Gander said:
Say you get 25 to life and you are able to prove your innocence within the first 5 years it's better than serving the whole thing.
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I don’t know how common that would be though.
Whataburger said:
He'll be fine though

He is rich
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He will. It’s not something that should become the norm though. Especially when it’s always hypocritical in being just displays of power.

You can find dirt on anyone if you look hard enough and want to manipulate it in that fashion.
 
Arkage

Arkage

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It's pretty bad how confused everyone is on the politics of the situation. There is literally no center.

A good portion of the left think this was an alt-right ploy and want him rehired. A good portion of the left thinks his comments were disgusting and he deserved to be fired.
A good portion of the right think he should be able to say what he wants and shouldn't get fired. A good portion of the right thinks he should get fired for saying phobic things on twitter.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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DragoonKain said:
I remember in the movie American History X, Avery Brooks goes to see Ed Norton in prison and he asks Ed Norton has anything he's done end up doing him any good? And then it really hit home with Ed Norton that all of the neo-Nazi bullshit he got caught up in was just that. Bullshit. It brought nothing good to his life.

I just wish these witch hunt people take the time to ask themselves what good is any of this behavior doing. Trying to destroy the lives of other people over old tweets or things they've said in articles from years ago. What good has any of this done? Are their lives better because James Gunn was fired? Do they really feel good about themselves? Does the mob feel good about themselves for being a driving force behind someone getting fired? Did it make their lives any better? These people may get a power rush from it now, but I'm telling you, years from now people are going to look back and wonder what it was all for.
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😂 People are going to look back and not remember who James Gunn is. It's not that important fam
 
chaos789

chaos789

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If I was a celebrity, I would stay off of social media. Everyone is so sensitive today and ready to throw you under the bus for saying just one bad comment.

Fact is everyone has said and done things they regret. People change. I certainly have.

Disney acting as if it some corporate bastion of high morality is amusing.
 
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King of FeatherCoin

King of FeatherCoin

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Haha, finally time to pay for his shitty tweets.

Surprisingly not surprised that the progressives are saying the rules should be different in this case.

Those tweets were absolutely foul, Disney did the right thing.

I loved both the GotG movies and personally it’s not really the directing or the story that made them special anyway. Volume 2 wasn’t even as good as the first anyway. Time for a new director to finish off the trilogy.
 
Alfadawg

Alfadawg

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DragoonKain said:
I remember in the movie American History X, Avery Brooks goes to see Ed Norton in prison and he asks Ed Norton has anything he's done end up doing him any good? And then it really hit home with Ed Norton that all of the neo-Nazi bullshit he got caught up in was just that. Bullshit. It brought nothing good to his life.

I just wish these witch hunt people take the time to ask themselves what good is any of this behavior doing. Trying to destroy the lives of other people over old tweets or things they've said in articles from years ago. What good has any of this done? Are their lives better because James Gunn was fired? Do they really feel good about themselves? Does the mob feel good about themselves for being a driving force behind someone getting fired? Did it make their lives any better? These people may get a power rush from it now, but I'm telling you, years from now people are going to look back and wonder what it was all for.
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Youtube and podcast money.
 
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