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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Deng will be ok, he has just turned from a consistent jumpshooter to an erratic one.
Last game, his jumper was going very well.
I know it was the Pistons but he still can hit shots, he just misses badly now more often than he should.
I do think Deng is the main concern going into the playoffs though, not worried about Rip or Derrick as by this time, they should be as healthy as newborns.
ryutaro's mama
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Not I. Lebron is definitely having a good season. But Durant is out of this world.
And me. I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Durant get it. Both of them have had excellent seasons. But Im leaning towards Durant atm
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That would be true if it wasn't completely false.
*dap*
Hopefully not fragile as coat hangers and cold as ice
I still remember his playoffs antics... damn shameful. He's a great player and a dynamic scorer but he can lose you games just as easily as win you them cause of his selfish play. That video coach nick had on him summed it up pretty well I think.
I honestly think Deng will have a terrible playoffs, and be their main weakness.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Obviously LeBron has the better overall stats but as far as being unstoppable scoring(shooting), Durant is just automatic nowadays.
It's nice to have someone you can always go to and know he'll rarely miss the shot.
THIS. Completely insensitive and pathetic if you ask me.
Barack Lesnar
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lebron's the mvp
stats obliterate durant's
Lebron is on pace for the greatest PER in the history of the game
Both their teams are elite so the final say should be about the stats. OKC would suck without Durant and Miami would suck without LeBron. All that stuff cancels out so it's up to the stats and LeBron is having an historic season with superior stats.
Durant will get MVP of course, because it's all politics and media hype. Look at what happened with Rose last year.
stats obliterate durant's
Lebron is on pace for the greatest PER in the history of the game
Both their teams are elite so the final say should be about the stats. OKC would suck without Durant and Miami would suck without LeBron. All that stuff cancels out so it's up to the stats and LeBron is having an historic season with superior stats.
Durant will get MVP of course, because it's all politics and media hype. Look at what happened with Rose last year.
Yup
Bam Bam Baklava
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I can't believe Lebron is actually using two headbands now. He's basically living up to that joke pic that was around where he would be adding headbands every couple years until he had like 5 of them.
CoffeeJanitor
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you're just salty about 3/21
TheGreatMightyPoo
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Cut him some slack, he's just compensating for his lack of rings.
ClovingWestbrook
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Dat rejuvenated Kobe.
Grimm Fandango
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Um wtf was that movie? Edgar Allen Poe?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
lebron 53.5%
durant 50.1%
like i said, perception and media hype will decide the award
How is that relevant when both teams would be bad without them? and really that's too close to call anyway
Also OKC is playing in a tougher west.
westbrook
harden
ibaka
vs.
wade
bosh
?
CoffeeJanitor
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I haven't a fucking clue. I know they both win a ton of games, though. These aren't D league lineups.
LeBron's game is crap for end of game situations. When the defense clamps down LeBron can't just drive and score. There aren't transition baskets. Durant is the superior end game threat because of his elite jumpshooting.
ClovingWestbrook
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3/21. Damn Kobe looks rejuvenated.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Durant is at that shooting mostly jumpers.
Numbers don't always tell the story.
I know which one I would be afraid of in the playoffs.
Durant has unlimited range and isn't a streaky shooter.
By the way, it wasn't just the media that gave Rose the award as several players and coaches said he should have won it but keep believing in politics.
26.5-6.6-8.2 on 53.5% shooting or 27.7-3.5-8.1 on 50.1% shooting?
Don't see how the latter is out of this world by comparison, all things considered. Both guys are having great, great seasons, but Lebron's the MVP.
Do I like Durant more as a player and human being? Yes. Would I rather root for Durant? Absolutely. Lebron's having the best season.
Black Mamba
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This isn't right. Billups was at 24% in '03-'04.
Also, to what does the thread title refer?
edit: Parker had higher usages than Westbrook in '05 and '07. he was 27% in '07
ClovingWestbrook
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If you spell LeBron James KEVIN DURANT then I agree.
ryutaro's mama
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Going forward, who wins a championship first, Doyers or Lakers?
ClovingWestbrook
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Tandom posts by Morris and I in the other forum.
CoffeeJanitor
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BTW, I would probably still give it to LeBron. I think we've just gotten used to the ridiculous statlines he's posted over the years so his 28-7-7 line doesn't look all that impressive. I think you have to consider that he really plays point forward and has a lot more to say about his team's offense than Durant does.
Barack Lesnar
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lebron is the mvp, end of story.
- better stats
- equally as important to team (both teams would fall off drastically without them)
- might end up with the greatest PER season in the history of the game, topping wilt
Reasons why he won't win it:
- perception, evil miami heat
- negative image, the decision
- media hype/campaign for durant (a la D-rose last year)
i'm not even a lebron fan. not a hater either, i like the guy and think he's a good dude overall, just tainted by wade's influence and south beach. he's the mvp this year... historic season
28/8/7 on 53%, unbelievable numbers, + dominant defense...better than durant on D
- better stats
- equally as important to team (both teams would fall off drastically without them)
- might end up with the greatest PER season in the history of the game, topping wilt
Reasons why he won't win it:
- perception, evil miami heat
- negative image, the decision
- media hype/campaign for durant (a la D-rose last year)
i'm not even a lebron fan. not a hater either, i like the guy and think he's a good dude overall, just tainted by wade's influence and south beach. he's the mvp this year... historic season
28/8/7 on 53%, unbelievable numbers, + dominant defense...better than durant on D
Coach Nick was totally wrong then.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
nuff said
ClovingWestbrook
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And the Heat aren't even tops in the east ATM so no.
CoffeeJanitor
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PER is a baseless stat. You know that, right?
Red Blaster
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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I agree actually.
Iron E Man
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Soul that was all for you right there
I find Hollinger annoying as hell, too, - and am generally annoyed by PER - but I would like for you to explain why PER is baseless.
Black Mamba
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Ah that's what it was. I misremembered the stat.Coach Nick wasn't referring to USG% but percentage of total FGAs.
He was right, I just had the wrong stat in mind.
ClovingWestbrook
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LeBron has Wade and Bosh
LeBron plays in the ease and team still isn't top dog ATM
LeBron is still a liability in the last few minutes
LeBron is great at racking up stats with out doing much
So no, KD is MVP
LeBron plays in the ease and team still isn't top dog ATM
LeBron is still a liability in the last few minutes
LeBron is great at racking up stats with out doing much
So no, KD is MVP
If you want the "Take this guy off the team and watch what happens" example, then look no further than Dwight on the Magic
As long as the Magic are near the top of the conference and he has no real #2 and still puts up numbers he should be the MVP every year
CoffeeJanitor
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Modern era.
What does this even mean? Every stat that you accumulate in this game results in a positive outcome for your team and a negative outcome for your opponent.
It's not like LeBron is playing for some shitty team and trying to score 30/game to the detriment of his team by taking 40% of his teams' shots.
So you're saying you just don't understand the formula.
It's out there: http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/per.html
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