I prefer Sapphire model to be honest.
I think we will get some good cards from everywhere, they're weren't trying before with AMD AIB's, except Sapphire, but they are now...Didn't you see some of the leaked cards from various vendors? There will even be some watercooled solutions too....
Having said that, I still think Sapphire will have one of the best cards....
FYI: Please remember that in volkan games amd cpu's might show wrong fps and are bad for benchmarking like wolfenstein and doom.
Hopefully that's fixed too, I think the new drivers fixes an issue in these games with Radeon Overlay. Hopefully it's fixed with other OSD programs as well...
Skirting threw alot of these reviews this launch looks excellent, Are there some problems here and there, sure there are but i think the positives for the consumer really makes up for it. As i said i'm not pc gamer anymore but am so excited knowing this tech will be in the new consoles. I am actually over joyed at what can be crammed into next generation consoles.
The only big negative for me with these cards are their cooling I just wish they had custom cooling designs from people like sapphire or Powercooler as i am sure those are going to being better by a long shot.
It's a great day for lovers of Graphics tech i think.
There are AIB cards coming soon from what I've heard, last I heard was 8 weeks, but some people say we may get AIB cards in 4 weeks.....AMD did it's homework this time....
Can someone explain to me how the 5700 7.5tf card beats the Vega64 12.7tf card by a good margin? That's 5.2tf less. 36 cu beating 64 cu. Does that mean 1 Navi cu = 2 gcn cu? Because of the dual cu thing?
New architecture built for just gaming...…..Vega Cards were heavy compute cards, but certain efficiencies for the gaming pipeline during development was never realized. Remember, during Vega's development, lots of personnel were shifted before it launched, to work on NAVI/RDNA, but not just NAVI in what you're getting here today with the 5700/XT, but what comes with Navi 20, with the patented solution you saw recently for raytracing with AMD (software+hardware), that significantly minimizes the heavy cost to rez and frames you see on Turing......I think it was worth it
So yes, Vega was plenty powerful, the high TF count was real, but setback by the transport system.....You see how Navi takes much less cycles to complete a task, how it reduces idle cycles, has many concurrent cycles. That was one of Vega's issues, there are times 25-50% of it's streaming processors were there idle not being utilized...Now sometimes you saw some glimpses of Vega's raw power, where it even beat the 2080ti, like in Strange Brigade, World War Z, Dirt etc....The raw power was there, but the architecture was not quite finished to deliver the gaming results consistently across all games...….Navi is a different beast entirely....It can only get better with the Navi 20 iteration.....For consoles and RT PC GPU's.....
AMD said RT wouldn't arrive until the next RDNA release, but they didn't say these cards would not support it. Maybe they simply can't advertise it now since the drivers are not ready for DXR suport. Because that physics score really is interesting... I wouldn't be surprised if these cards ended up supporting it, at least on the software side.
Not that I would recommend anyone to count on it. These cards are better value at this point though.
Vega, 1st Gen Navi will all have support of Radeon Rays.....It has already been demoed by Crytek.....
Ordered the Sapphire 5700XT looking forward to it.
AIB cards should be great...….Remember, Steve got a 20% OC on the blower card, with the fans at 100%......And I told folk these blowers would do 2000Mhz easily, apparently, the clocks were averaging 2050 with the OC, went up to 2070+. With Axial fans or water-cooling, I remember saying we would get over 2100Mhz with those, so those AIB's will be swell....What's more is that some of the driver issues we had with 1% lows was boosted with overclocking...….So there are some driver issues for sure, but what Steve got relative to the OC is very promising, the temps and clocks AIB's will be able to deliver, even on the 5700 is something to look forward to. Some say the 5700 may have a clock lock in the high 1800's, so we shall see how things unfold, probably is the driver they used.…...Btw a new driver has already been released...
Personally, I'm here with bated breath to see some of the Radeon Features, AMD-anti-lag and Fidelity FX by Tim at Hardware Unboxed....Lots of cool info to come in the coming weeks... I think people should be stoked for Fidelity FX, though anti-lag should net returns mostly in DOTA and E-sports titles....
But isnt AMD smaller than Nvidia? If they dont have the same budget for R&D i think they are actually doing a great job all things considered.
Yes, they're leading the charge, whilst Nvidia and it's fans sit pretty thinking they can't be touched....AMD is out there doing heavy R&D and thinking many steps ahead, they have a roadmap that spans way into the future, not just for Ryzen, but for RDNA/NAVI as well...….To push raytracing, you need to think out the box, to push 8k etc....120fps in a few years.....We need something like AMD's Infinity Fabric for GPU's and that's what they've been working on too.....So when people say.....Hey, Nvidia will be on 7nm in 2020, AMD was there since early this year, they heading into 5nm, 3nm territory with IF, they've already set their foundation for their roadmap, in that way, they will always be a step ahead of what consumers demand.