broncobuster
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Bane vs Batman in TDKR is one of the worst fight scenes in modern cinema, isn't it
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It's a cinemasins world nowadays.
Fancyarcher
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I prefer the Penguin fight from Batman Returns, or the waltz to the death myself.
Eh, I actually don't dislike TDKR. It's my least favorite of the three, but I still find it enjoyable enough. But the fights look like shit. I don't even think that is a new thing people say. One of the common criticisms of Nolan's Batman films is the poor action sequences, and TDKR's takes the cake.
The tone of that BvS fight is entirely different and wouldn't fit in the Nolan trilogy.
I think the choreography complaints are probably somewhat valid but not even close to the extent people here make them out to be. I just can't believe anyone really gives that much of a shit about the hits not looking like they fully connect, thats something I only noticed maybe the third time I saw the movie. If I have to pick that over atmosphere and cinematography, I'm taking atmosphere and cinematography every time.
Crossing Eden
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The gif I posted wasn't zoomed in at all actually.
Strangelove77
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Besides the weak backbreaker I actually kind of like it. It's tense and dramatic despite not being choreographed that well. You kind of feel bad for Batman because you know he's utterly fucked. Bane just looks so fucking imposing, it makes the whole thing look like a child trying to fight a man.
Like a Brock Lesnar match. Which isn't much of a wrestling match, it's just a beat down.
But I also liked Bane's voice, so whatever.
Like a Brock Lesnar match. Which isn't much of a wrestling match, it's just a beat down.
But I also liked Bane's voice, so whatever.
Bobby Roberts
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I mean, I don't even get how this is a fuckin' question though. Like, how do you even arrive at this particular question, much less posing it more or less rhetorically because you're already fairly certain the answer is yes?
It's not even that bad a goddamned fight. It's not great or anything, but "one of the worst fight scenes in modern cinema?"
Like... wha?
Where are we and by what indiscernable from magic technology did we warp to this destination
The Silver
Member
I was mostly disappointed with the backbreaker, now the 2nd fight was really shit.
BvS warehouse is best Batman fight
BvS warehouse is best Batman fight
Haloid1177
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That fight could have been so hype but the choreography is just atrocious. Imagine Snyder directing a Bane vs Batman fight. Itd be a shit movie for sure but the fight would be awesome.
But that's clearly not the issue this gif is highlighting.
It wasn't so hard to just either cut the guy falling for no reason or include something to show that the movie is telling you why the guy is falling.
This gif is misleading and weakens the point it's trying to make.
You know you can also comment on the actual comments about the many issues with the fight scene if you want.
I actually kinda like the action bits in Batman 89, aren't too shabby for its time. I can dig the silliness, and this is probably better choreographed than anything in Nolan's trilogy, lol.
You chose poorly. That's the best fight in the movie.
The most disappointing fight for me in the TDK trilogy was the warehouse fight in BB.
It starts off really well with Batman dropping down on dudes and dragging them into the shadows. The kind of thing I've always wanted to see in a Batman movie. Then he jumps in the middle of the group and...the camera starts spinning and shaking while the lights flash and everybody grunts.
The most disappointing fight for me in the TDK trilogy was the warehouse fight in BB.
It starts off really well with Batman dropping down on dudes and dragging them into the shadows. The kind of thing I've always wanted to see in a Batman movie. Then he jumps in the middle of the group and...the camera starts spinning and shaking while the lights flash and everybody grunts.
adamsappel
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See also the ski chase in Inception. I'm not worried about Dunkirk, though. WWII brings out your A game.
Things can only be the best of all time or the worst of all time.
You're like the last person who should be trying to backseat moderate this thread.
Fancy Clown
Member
I love how they light and frame Bane in this sequence. He looks like a goddamn monster, which goes a long way to selling the physicality in the fight.
RuinerPrime
Member
Isn't there another famous gif with bats & cat woman fighting goons? It looks awful. Lots of phantom punches and extras flopping everywhere.
Felt so blah after seeing this movie(tdkr) in theaters. Felt like a crazy person when everyone I knew said they like/loved it.
Felt so blah after seeing this movie(tdkr) in theaters. Felt like a crazy person when everyone I knew said they like/loved it.
Prime crotch
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It's a beatdown, not a fight, on that it works even with it being PG-13 violence the hits Bane lands on Batman's face really hit.
The rest I won't really comment, Batman was done dirty with that bullshit martial arts they made him do for three movies.
The rest I won't really comment, Batman was done dirty with that bullshit martial arts they made him do for three movies.
A fight, man, what is it?
MegaManTrigger
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Nolan was terrible with action but great with story. Unfortunately Snyder is the complete opposite.
Bobby Roberts
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Jesus Christ
DontBeThatGuy
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I'd give much less of a fuck about the characters, (and I already didn't care about Bane). So, it would be even more pointless.
It's like, the warehouse fight in BvS is nicely shot, but every goddamn character in that movie sucks. Why should I even care?
Ok? I also posted comments about why its a sloppy mess and you can comment on those unless character attacks are all you have to offer. Nolan has never been that great an action director.
I'm pretty sure it very much is. Even if you want to take out the banana peel man, the rest of it looks terrible, so you're trying too hard.
It's garbage bro.
Haloid1177
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I dunno, I can still enjoy a bad movie if it has some cool sequences. TDKRises is just a bad movie and even the cool sequences suck.
Fancyarcher
Member
Based upon any interview, I seriously doubt Nolan enters a film "not giving a shit". In fact thematically TDKR fits into his trilogy quite well. His Batman has a beginning, middle & end.
RuinerPrime
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What? Enlighten me lord and savior.
Fancy Clown
Member
No I know you were being sarcastic lol, I was calling you out for thinking he was making a ridiculous claim.
i mean he's better than b&r's bane but that's still not bane
people don't fight like that
They were but all choices made for Batman & Robin were shit, every single thing is crap in that movie.
No one is making a thread about badly choreographed scene for that movie because everyone want to forget about it.
It also suffers from the Metroid Other M syndrome : other parts were so incredibly memorably shitty that no one can focus on any issue without falling back to the shitty stuffs everyone remembers.
I mean, it was a ridiculous claim to try and justify what he was, so that number was disconnected.
Nocturnowl
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On the contrary, I enjoyed it more viewing it like this.
Bane is the no selling hoss, Bats is the ring rusted veteran who can't go anymore.
Bane cuts promos while he squashes Batman clean, would somebody stop the damn match!
It really doesn't though TDKR garbage straight up.
Nothing about it makes any sense at all
This... makes a lot more sense than it should.
Right, so explaining the filmmaking process and creative decisions behind films is "justification".
And you seemingly have nothing to add to this thread beyond insults and attempts at being witty. You're getting close to that point I press the ignore button.
Crossing Eden
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The sound design isn't doing the scene any favors when it comes to the oomph of the punches from either Bane or Batman.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
meh, I need to care first, if the film is taking itself seriously at least. (and to be clear, I'm not a big fan of Rises).
Fancy Clown
Member
Huh I'm not sure I'm following? He was claiming that Nolan shot and edited the scene in a specific way to make it feel like a scary and brutal beat down of Batman...that's literally what the scene is and what everyone involved was trying to achieve, regardless if it succeeded for you or not. How is that ridiculous?
the fights in begins and tdk sucked too bro
But because of banana peel man it looks like a disingenuous edit made to make a point over being honest.
Just cut banana peel man from the gif, it's weakening whatever point the gif is trying to make.
roflwaffles
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Neogaf hyperbole at its finest.
Ledger's death threw a gigantic wrench into everything that Nolan wanted the final movie of the trilogy to be or at least it feels like it. The third movie just feels so off compared to the earlier movies, like they were never quite sure where to go with it without the Joker.