This is just plain wrong.
I'm proud to be British and I love my country that's about it. Hopefully there's nothing wrong with that.
Look I can paste links too
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
It's always been unseemly to me how otherwise sane English people harp on about the glories of their decrepit empire. Even reasonably smart liberals get seduced by the myth of their "civilizing force" or whatever.
Nationalistic pride, outside of a few sporting events, is a menace. Ever was it so.
This is rather disturbing - I bet most of those Brits that said they are proud of it, dont know they invented concentration camps (and not the Germans) and that the empire killed waaaay more people than Hitler ever did. Then again, they might just claim thats all lies, and who can blame them if all they learn in school is how good the empire was.
They need to apologise first.Hey America, you can start thanking us now.
Nah, I'll stick with English, as only those from England (and minorities in Northern Ireland) ever exhibit pride in their "heritage." Most of the remaining components of the "British" Empire simply don't identify as such, and I have no interest in propping up national mythologies.1. British.
2. BRITISH
3. BRITISH
Right....that over with.
Damn right we should demand our tea backThey need to apologise first.
Nah, I'll stick with English, as only those from England (and minorities in Northern Ireland) ever exhibit pride in their "heritage." Most of the remaining components of the "British" Empire simply don't identify as such, and I have no interest in propping up national mythologies.
As it happens, I also have ancestors who died fighting in the army of the British Empire.Given how many of my Scottish ancestors died fighting in the army of the British Empire, please take this elsewhere.
Nah, I'll stick with English, as only those from England (and minorities in Northern Ireland) ever exhibit pride in their "heritage." Most of the remaining components of the "British" Empire simply don't identify as such, and I have no interest in propping up national mythologies.
The Egyptians, the ottomans, the moors, the persians. Brutal empires that have also brought significant advances to the people they conquered are not a preserve of white people.
As it happens, I also have ancestors who died fighting in the army of the British Empire.
Utter rubbish.Nah, I'll stick with English, as only those from England (and minorities in Northern Ireland) ever exhibit pride in their "heritage." Most of the remaining components of the "British" Empire simply don't identify as such, and I have no interest in propping up national mythologies.
Yes, the overwhelming number of Scottish people try to distance themselves from their "British" heritage (although it's decreased since the referendum, disappointingly). I'm not exactly a fan of Scottish nationalism either, but at least they're not telling themselves yarns about their long dominion over the earth.Übermatik;175924116 said:What an absolute joke. I live in Scotland and the pride up there for their heritage is overwhelming.
Yes, the overwhelming number of Scottish people try to distance themselves from their "British" heritage (although it's decreased since the referendum, disappointingly). I'm not exactly a fan of Scottish nationalism either, but at least they're not telling themselves yarns about their long dominion over the earth.
http://whatscotlandthinks.org/quest...ng-yourself-to-someone-from-overseas-as-scottWhat a load of rubbish. Out of all the Scots I know, even most of the pro-independence ones are proud of their heritage, both as Scots and as part of Britain.
As it happens, I also have ancestors who died fighting in the army of the British Empire.
I'm proud to be British and I love my country that's about it. Hopefully there's nothing wrong with that.
You have spent a long time responding to something I never did. I'm happy to call it the British Empire. All I said correctly, according to just about any poll you care to look at is that English people are more invested in "Britishness," the Union Jack, and all the faded trappings of Empire, than the rest of the Commonwealth.That's nice, but perhaps we can stick to something factually correct instead of mislabelling something historical?
I mean if we're going to be all technically correct you might want to call it the London Empire, as that's certainly where the beating heart and brain were, and decisions taken back then are why even today there's relatively little friendship to be had between the peoples of Birmingham/Manchester/Liverpool/Newcastle and the Capital. Maybe even the Westminster Empire.
But maybe...just MAYBE we'd like to be factually accurate. It's the British Empire.
This is rather disturbing - I bet most of those Brits that said they are proud of it, dont know they invented concentration camps (and not the Germans) and that the empire killed waaaay more people than Hitler ever did. .
Then again, they might just claim thats all lies, and who can blame them if all they learn in school is how good the empire was
Damn right we should demand our tea back
You're painting with a broad brush here. Do you have any understanding of British education at all, you seem to assume the worst of everyone, we've had a generation and a half of a relatively left-wing education system. The Empire is barely touched on in schools, we really aren't raised on myths of how wonderful it was and history education has a lot to cover in a few short years, considering it touches on ancient history, the romans and a dozen other flashpoints over the next two thousand years. I think I learned more about the Empire from reading books in my own time than I ever did at school.
Some well researched facts about slavery
Who can blame them if all they learn in school is how good the empire was.
As an Haitian with African roots, this is possibly one of the most offensive threads I have ever seen.
I think that part of Britains past should be forgotten. it's pretty much the most evil thing you can know about.
I have it rubbed in my face by an American friend how America 'owns' the British, and often get reminded of the American Revolution and, of course, how they dumped all our beloved tea in the harbour.Damn right we should demand our tea back
Then surely you should be pissed at the French? Haiti as far as I'm aware was a Spanish and then French colony?
I have it rubbed in my face by an American friend how America 'owns' the British, and often get reminded of the American Revolution and, of course, how they dumped all our beloved tea in the harbour.
As an Haitian with African roots, this is possibly one of the most offensive threads I have ever seen
I think that part of Britains past should be forgotten. it's pretty much the most evil thing you can know about.
Fucking septics, what a waste of air
Damn right we should demand our tea back