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'cmon, CboaT sucked, sorry, he's a FUD master from a high mark most of the time, and did it again.

What's the point to emphasis the early SDK is 10~20% slower if it always is?
Promote that's gonna be a bummer the new game from P* funded by MS is very relative.

Every internal development hurdles and cancelled never heard of projects are just to increase FUD, as if Sony or Nintendo or many developer are having a bless of a times with such struggled market.

MS said such countries won't have Xbox One, 180 for indies where already said to have the rules set in a near future not at launch, and we could smell the shit far from any PR. No point bringing again as such internals would made a difference.

And what would make actually news? CboaT hardly knows. What is Black Tusk working on? No word. What are some actual news instead of FUD? And those non name released Ms games too?
The most interesting thing and is somehow a FUD as well is the whispers of a Kinectless SKU, will mind trick those who did considered to buy it but doesn't want a Kinect.

Well, my 2cents from this late Butt.
I suggest you go back to reading the first 5 pages of this thread thoroughly. You will know why he emphasize on the SDK, why he is talking about the delay in some countries.

And a Kinectless SKU isn't FUD, unless you're one of those people that need something "unique" with your console.
 
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I did not know who is cboat till just before e3 when I joined here. Sorry ?

And from that post of his (the e3 one) he had both prince of Persia and the mirror edge to be shown at e3 wrong correct ?

Maybe someone inside MS telling him stuff but to me he isn't always right, not even 90 % of the time.

And even if he was correct 90 % of the time like you said. That means there is still a chance he is wrong again am I correct ?

All what I said is I would believe he has some info when I hear about this platinum exclusive, nothing upsetting in what I said bro lol
He never actually said Mirror's Edge 2 was going to be at the Microsoft conference. Only that it was being shown that day.

As for Prince of Persia, I'm sure every one thought they were seeing it until Master Chef took off his cloak.
 

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lol, what did ami do to deserve such internet hate?


You can't be serious?

Cboat has like 96% accuracy rate. he has been leaking stuff since 2005. how many more years of correct leaks do you need to trust him?

As many years as it takes for CBoat to start posting postive Xbox leaks and accompanying negative Playstation related leaks.
 
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Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.
He does not work for Microsoft because he has also shown knowledge of competing company's products. I think he works for a third party company. If he does work for Microsoft then he has amazing contacts. But let us not make it easier for people to know who he is so that we can keep getting insider info.
 

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Instead of making posts like this, try debating something that might actually happen.....

If Sony releases a $299 SKU, MS has pretty much no chance of winning (at least, in NA). IIRC, MS isn't that profitable as it is, so lowering the price would probably make them lose tons of money.

I'd imagine Sony could lower the prices on the console (and maybe even the games) and knock MS out of the running in some regions.



See I can play the "what if" game too!
Well, a Kinectless SKU for $350/$299 is actually quite possible. The Kinect costs almost as much as the One to make. If they offer a Kinectless version, many consumers would buy it as it is the cheaper option. I doubt MS isn't very profitable. I'm pretty sure Sony had a huge loss a while back, so I doubt they could afford to lower the price by that much, considering that it's more powerful than the One.
 
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This post made me laugh more than it should have. You really have no clue about how many people are actually invested in the company they work for
If he got all this information like the Xbox 360 specs and all this Xbox one information he has to be high up at Microsoft. I would imagine he wouldn't be trying to sabotage his own product. Its common sense.
 
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So is the official GAF Microsoft warrior position on Cboat that all the stuff he gets right is just coincidence, clever guess work or luck, that and Prince of Persia. Lol.

All just clever FUD....
And Mirror's Edge 2, but that's because people don't know how to read his posts.
 
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There are only really 2 lay-man verifiable leaks here.

fact #1 - unverifiable, no one is gonna break NDA to confirm it and if they deny it you can call damage control / pr.

fact #2 - unverifiable, no one is gonna break NDA to confirm it and if they deny it you can call damage control / pr.

fact # 3 - This one is really good. We've had rumours of late Oct release so not unheard of. Verifiable

fact # 4 - This one is really, really, really good. This is a huge claim that already has people dying. Verifiable

fact #5 - semiverifiable, possibility someone confirms it/denies it but the layman can't really do much.

fact #6 - already known

fact #7 - not a fact

So really while this seems super exciting, we only really have 2 #truthfacts that we can actually confirm are #truthfacts. One of which we already have rumours from another source.
 

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No argument necessary. Here's all the proof you need

Thank you for your time and input for proof, may I ask how many times he was wrong too ? It's ok if you do not have a data on this. It's just a general question,

Also. We will know soon enough about platinum games and i really hope he is wrong. Not to say ha I told you so because I am not into kids stuff and console war bs, but mainly because I was already planning and set to buy ps4 but Titan fall. Killer instinct and now platinum game is too much for me to hold out
 

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So people consider this negative for the xbox? How? They're going with a kinectless SKU which will close the price gap, and they're securing exclusives. Sounds like a final return for microsoft besides the yield issues. They dissolved the 1st party studio, but studios close left and right in the industry now.
 

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I love CBOAT threads and post ... always interesting and entertaining

btw, it should be really easy to figure out who he/she really is if someone at MS or elsewhere wanted to find out ... no one can hide on the internet these days
He's been a member of this forum since 2004. Either MS really sucks at figuring out who he is, or he's really good at hiding.
 

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I agree Microsoft trying so hard with "TV ! TV ! TV... Sports !" showing how "amazing" Xbox One (Kinnect enabled) is to easily handle and manage everything from your couch with simple voice commands... with all this focus on media features and easy control over them how are you going to sell the Kinnect-less Xbox One ? saying you need to press here and there twice and then here again on a controller and you need paying $100 extra for what was advertised in the first place, or just change the advertising and marketing campaign ?

they designed everything around Kinnect, expecting it was going to be the major selling point... Xbox play Call of Duty, Xbox snap ESPN, Xbox save and go home, Xbox download Forza demo... but they're changing everything and reversing policies in a serious panic attack, I wonder how devs focusing on Kinnect features would take the news of a new Xbox One with optional Kinnect, the Xbox One they first revealed has little to do now with what is being launched who knows when and where, you can't trust Microsoft this gen at all.
Yeah. Dropping Kinect would be a major blow to a lot of their plans. I have to imagine that any current whispers of such a SKU are contingency plans in case this holiday season really gives them signs of a bad future. That would be a very desperate move that they couldn't make lightly.
 
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Don't get me wrong, yet I still think that keeping faith to the original Xbox One feature (yes, DRM and all that fussle) would have been a more amazing move for shaking the industry.

I still have the bad feeling that we, as customers, have lost something in the whole 180-turn process...
If we truly lost anything, MS did a horrible job communicating that. My feelings on the whole DRM/family share fiasco can be summed up very nicely in this image.

We don't know what it was, but it came with way too much baggage and restrictions. If they had come out and said you're getting this benefit, this benefit, and this, without any catches, we wouldn't be in this same situation right now. I'm not willing to throw away some of my consumer freedoms, just for the possibilities that we might get something nice out of it, maybe. Maybe next time they'll get it right. There's no indication that whatever beneficial policies were planned are gone for good. And if they are gone for good, MS was never serious about pleasing the consumer from the get go. My two cents.
 
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I don't think the earlier info he gave about the 360 was negative. I think he's just being honest, a rare given and virtue these days :)
I just think its interesting how he doesn't leak any good things about it. Its just yeild issues and SDK issues. Then that all leads to wild speculation. Like the GPU downclock. (we all know how that turned out now) Of course everyone hates the Xbox one so they are more inclined to believe all this
 

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Well, a Kinectless SKU for $350 is actually quote possible. The Kinect costs almsot as much as the One to make. If they offer a Kinectless version, many consumers would buy it as it is the cheaper option. I doubt MS isn't very profitable. I'm pretty sure Sony had a huge loss a while back, so I doubt they could afford to lower the price by that much, considering that it's more powerful than the One.
Kinect 2 is around $100. The xbone cost the same as the ps4 thanks to the complicated hardware architecture they are using on it ( 5 MILLION TRANSISTORSSSSS!)
 
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It's just that it seemed a bit bloody and NSFW for some people here. Just trying to help you fellow gaffer!
Have you seen some of the God of War, Gears, TLoU, and Killzone gifs that get thrown around all the time on GAF? That gif is tame compared to those.
Hey, I changed it to James Cagney. Nice wholesome James Cagney.
 
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Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.
I'm thinking its someone from the bungie team that still has ties to MS and still upset about the buyout after all these years
 
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I doubt he works at MS. He leaks purely negative information about the Xbox one and i would imagine an MS employee would be invested in selling there product rather than putting people of it
I'd imagine 95% of employees across the world have a different personal opinion of the product their employer sells, than what they express openly. As long as they get paid, they couldn't give a fuck.
 

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I just think its interesting how he doesn't leak any good things about it. Its just yeild issues and SDK issues. Then that all leads to wild speculation. Like the GPU downclock. (we all know how that turned out now) Of course everyone hates the Xbox one so they are more inclined to believe all this
Has there been any good news about it? It's all been negative since the PS4 reveal.
 
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Thank you for your time and input for proof, may I ask how many times he was wrong too ? It's ok if you do not have a data on this. It's just a general question,

Also. We will know soon enough about platinum games and i really hope he is wrong. Not to say ha I told you so because I am not into kids stuff and console war bs, but mainly because I was already planning and set to buy ps4 but Titan fall. Killer instinct and now platinum game is too much for me to hold out
He's only been wrong once ever, that was on Prince of Persia, which he apologised for. Not sure if it was pulled or he confused the sands and cape for PoP. The other half error was Mirrors Edge (before it was ever announced) which he said would debut at the Microsoft presser but instead debuted at the EA one. That one isn't really a mistake per say, probably just a last minute switch up.
 

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Thank you for your time and input for proof, may I ask how many times he was wrong too ? It's ok if you do not have a data on this. It's just a general question,

Also. We will know soon enough about platinum games and i really hope he is wrong. Not to say ha I told you so because I am not into kids stuff and console war bs, but mainly because I was already planning and set to buy ps4 but Titan fall. Killer instinct and now platinum game is too much for me to hold out
Only time I can recall was prince of Persia. He was almost wrong about dead rising 3 but months later he commented and say to be patient about it and that it was coming.

Edit: And mirrors edge. But he was right about it showing up at e3 just wrong about what conference it would be at.
 
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I'd imagine 95% of employees across the world have a different personal opinion of the product their employer sells, than what they express openly. As long as they get paid, they couldn't give a fuck.
Yeah. But as i said. If he worked at MS. He would have to be someone high up. And he would have worked there for a long time i think. cboat is a little bit salty for the Xbox one me thinks
 

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There are only really 2 lay-man verifiable leaks here.

fact #1 - unverifiable, no one is gonna break NDA to confirm it and if they deny it you can call damage control / pr.

fact #2 - unverifiable, no one is gonna break NDA to confirm it and if they deny it you can call damage control / pr.

fact # 3 - This one is really good. We've had rumours of late Oct release so not unheard of. Verifiable

fact # 4 - This one is really, really, really good. This is a huge claim that already has people dying. Verifiable

fact #5 - semiverifiable, possibility someone confirms it/denies it but the layman can't really do much.

fact #6 - already known

fact #7 - not a fact

So really while this seems super exciting, we only really have 2 #truthfacts that we can actually confirm are #truthfacts. One of which we already have rumours from another source.

This post sums exactly what I was trying to say in 5 posts lol. Thank you,
We will see if 3 and 4 are correct soon enough :)
 
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Don't get me wrong, yet I still think that keeping faith to the original Xbox One feature (yes, DRM and all that fussle) would have been a more amazing move for shaking the industry.

I still have the bad feeling that we, as customers, have lost something in the whole 180-turn process...
If we lost something it's because MS took their ball and went home after the 180.
And whatever we lost (if anything) can't possible be worth the price of giving up consumer rights, ownership of games, offline functionality etc. I don't care what they come up with , nothing gaming related could be worth that, not even half life 3.
 
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