Schwowsers
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Yeah, I can understand it not being popular online, but I just want it to be an option for local multiplayer.
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David Jaffe Accidentally Leaks Details About New Game
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As was I. In that video interview a few weeks ago, it really seemed like it was going to be an open world type thing. Which might seem, on the face of it, the way the game should go when compared to modern games. But TM is more Unreal Tournament than it is Burnout.Flavius said:
Lion Heart
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Whatever game Jaffe is making, we can assume it will be an M rated title? I want blood/guts and some titties good sir.
Tylahedras
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Shurs said:
There is actually something to this. When I used to play COD (the original on PC) and a search and destroy came down to just two people it was always super intense because you knew that your team was watching you and judging everything you did.
It's a totally different experience then early on, when death means nothing because there are still so many people total in the game.
Callibretto
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shagg_187 said:OhWell, I never played Black Online for I never had a modem during that time. Maybe it was avoided because it made the other player wait for the game to finish.
They can have a "You lost. Exit to lobby or Spectate?" option when you die and have an in-game history/message system where you can get the result of the previous games. That way, you won't have to wait and see if someone won and just continue with another game. It'll be a really good way of keeping track of your previous games (especially if it's similar to Killzone 2's replay feature in killzone.com).
Ofcourse, one can dream right? (HI JAFFE!)
or maybe that can have something like bomberman where dead players are placed outside the arena or some towers with turrets gunning down the surviving player, if you manage to kill one you get back to the arena.
Callibretto
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Lion Heart said:
I'd buy an M rated Calling All Cars, treated as car combat sports played in teams of 4 or 5 people in each team.
it'd be like soccer meets cars and weapons with some cool art and killer soundtrack.
Callibretto said:
Yes, even if you don't get to respawn - at least it gives you reason to hang around and something to do - even if you can't finish them off you can at least help get the next game started quicker.
Also - if there is a no respawn elimination mode - there should be some form of a 'call out' for any wussies that run away from the battles and hide. Maybe if you haven't confronted anyone in a certain timeframe people get bonus points for attacking you, your location is made obvious on radar and/or you lose points for not attacking anyone in a certain time frame.
SapientWolf
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I don't mind Last Man Standing when the rounds are short (like say Bomberman) but that mode in TM favors health pack camping and opportunism (aka vulturing) a little too much for my taste.Schwowsers said:It's the basis of the single player mode, and I believe it was how the multiplayer worked in the first few games, but the original release of Twisted Metal Black did away with it. Instead players automatically respawned when killed and the object was to get the most kills or some variation of that. It made me sad
As for why I think Twisted Metal needs an elimination mode, I'm not sure. I guess it stems from that being how I remember the originals playing.
I think Jaffe should play Killzone 2's mech level on how to closely approximate car combat for the next-gen.
I agree with Jaffe 100% that the core gameplay/controls/feeling is absolutely critical, and everything can be designed AROUND that core experience. That separates a good game from a great game.
The mech sequence in KZ2 handles pretty brilliantly and gives you an incredibly immersive experience of controlling this mobile tank that can jump, sprint, etc.
Give us cockpit view to add to the immersion od the chaotic nature of the game, give each car a distinctive feel with their own moves/powers.
*IF* you're trying to recapture that hollywood chase/driving feeling, I think cockpit view is the only way to go as it is SOOO much more immersive. Just give the player the option of viewing behind him and to the sides easily
But, that's just my opinion.
I agree with Jaffe 100% that the core gameplay/controls/feeling is absolutely critical, and everything can be designed AROUND that core experience. That separates a good game from a great game.
The mech sequence in KZ2 handles pretty brilliantly and gives you an incredibly immersive experience of controlling this mobile tank that can jump, sprint, etc.
Give us cockpit view to add to the immersion od the chaotic nature of the game, give each car a distinctive feel with their own moves/powers.
*IF* you're trying to recapture that hollywood chase/driving feeling, I think cockpit view is the only way to go as it is SOOO much more immersive. Just give the player the option of viewing behind him and to the sides easily
But, that's just my opinion.
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controls were extremely intuitive for something so unusual.
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Callibretto
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Killzone and MGS4 mech section is cool and all, but the control is basically the dual analog shooter control with strafe and aim. I'd like Twisted Metal to actually handled like a car imo. with lots of weapon customization for offense and defense and assign them to shortcut button for example the face button ([], /\, X, O) so I have all 4 weapon available at all times and no need to waste time selecting them.
SolidSnakex
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thaOwner said:
Yeah, both it and Blur are racing games that happen to feature weapons. They're no different from something like Wipeout and Mario Kart when it comes to that. Neither are comparable to Twisted Metal.
TheRagnCajun
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I don't understand why Jaffee's next game is still being played up as a mystery. I thought he practically announced it in that PS2 port of head-on.
dragonflys545
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Raadius said:
Can't wait.
-Pyromaniac-
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Oh man...this game is going to be ridiculously fun.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Raadius said:
And here... we.... go!
Rapping Granny
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fucking juniors.
TheThunder
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TM was one of my favorite series and it's been too long since the last full TM game. I think Twisted Metal Black was 2001 so hopefully will see it this year.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Am I the only one who loved TM3 and TM4?
TheThunder
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shagg_187 said:
TM3 is a big letdown after TM2 but I can let it slide it still has some good weapons and levels, TM4 however is trash.
TheCardPlayer
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Kenak said:
Fucking junior
Lion Heart
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shagg_187 said:
Probably 3, yes
I remember when I was a kid playing 2, I never got a chance to play TM1 and some guy kept telling me 1 had a cockpit view, I couldn't even fathom it at the time. This was pre going on the net and looking for media. The way I pictured it in my head it was the greatest game ever :lol
Even with those fond memories, the gameplay is outdated, so I hope he makes something new. Games like Full Auto tried the car combat thing but it was shit. I could see the game working amazing if it had head tracking, so you could turn the camera very quickly, shooting at people and still be in control of your car. The car physics would actually have...physics and shit, in theory it would be amazing. Anyway, I trust you Jaffe.
TheThunder said:
3 and 4 were good on their own right, if you were to think of them as just a car combat game, and not Twisted Metal. Thats what happens when a series gets taken from its original developers. Its awesome that its under Jaffe again.
gibonez said:
The genre has gone pretty much unexplored with multiplayer, at least by today's standards. And considering the game's competitive nature, it only makes sense that the game's biggest strengths should be its multiplayer component.
gibonez said:
That's why I don't think it will be good enough as a retail disc. Charging the same price as GTA4 for a destruction derby game? Especially when Jaffe is on the record against persistence and "meta" elements. Twisted Metal either needs to be a low-price download, or a significant re-thinking for The Power Of The Cell Processor(TM).
Combichristoffersen
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Kenak said:
I don't know about crappy (never played 'em myself), but wasn't the TM series essentially only popular in the US, with Europe and Japan not really caring all that much?
-Pyromaniac-
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what the fuckKenak said:
Combichristoffersen said:
Thats kind of how it goes with most games released in the west.
The more I think about it, I'm guessing its going to be a reboot to the franchise, under just the title Twisted Metal. Or Twisted Metal ____. No numbers involved. I'm also curious as to how big their team is.
SolidSnakex
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Lion Heart said:
Jaffe has said that "if they did make a new TM" then it would have to be adjusted for the current generation. So they don't just plan on making TM but prettier.
theBishop said:
Yeah, but he also pointed out that he wasn't saying whether or not the game they're working on will have things like that. He's just talking about how he feels about that subject.
Chuck Norris
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Did Jaffe ever get over his "I'm going to make mini-games!" phase, or is this game going to be a continuation of that? I'm hoping it's a AAA blockbuster
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GDC can't come soon enough.
SolidSnakex
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Chuck Norris said:
It's not on a continuation of that. He's said that at ESP they're gong to make small PSN games and something bigger like Twisted Metal Black. His next game will be closer to Black.
Noisepurge
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davidjaffe said:
I dont know anyone who had the PS2 online expansion
This generation might be the proper time to try again. Also, Last man standing -mode is awesome. And if you, hypothetically, would add it, i have to recommend the Bomberman style of approach that the killed players can still try to bomb the living players instead of waiting as spectators. Maybe as ghosts or police cars? ;D