Garrett Hawke
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What is going on... Really disappointing that a fighter in a dark, closed environment ain't 1080p on PS4.
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DF: EA Sports UFC demo performance analysis (PS4 900p w/ 4xMSAA, XB1 900p w/ 2xMSAA)
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Yeah, I was really hoping I could turn motion blur off, but I glitched into the settings and it wasn't there. Horrible effect in something like this.
I think people are not out of bounds to draw comparisons to it's contemporaries.
Ryse at 900p, Battlefield 4 (PS4) at 900p, and Watch Dogs (PS4) at 900p - from the naked eye; appear to be doing more complex things. Meanwhile, we have Drive Club, Forza Horizon, InFamous Second Son, and Killzone: Shadow Fall all running at 1080p.
I think the engine they are using must be inefficient or they prioritized elements that perhaps might not translate as well on paper.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
The power of MSAA
LordBaztion
Member
Graphics still looks nice to me.
Shame on lying on the resolution though.
Shame on lying on the resolution though.
MMaRsu
Banned
Because of thr motion blur used.
DemurOnion
Banned
The fuck? 4xMSAA? Is supersampling less expensive lol?
900p over 2xMSAA?
900p over 2xMSAA?
Portugeezer
Member
More parity between EA sports and racing games?
Oh I definitely think that Ignite is not well made judging by everything made on it. I'm more so addressing the "they artificially handicapped the PS4 version for no reason" commentary.
LukasTaves
Member
The image quality seems outstanding on those Ps4 shots (didn't played the xbone demo yet), so I really don't see the problem there.
Resolution is just a number, it's the final image that counts, and this one looks stellar.
Resolution is just a number, it's the final image that counts, and this one looks stellar.
At least the other sports games and racing games were 1080p on both. Now we're moving down the resolution track. I really didn't believe people when they were saying the end of this gen would be 720p, but now I think they might be right.
900p with that AA looks excellent.
I hope we get more of it.
Sorry to the complainers, but I'd prefer better graphics, with heavy AA at 720p+ than lesser graphics at 1080p with tons of aliasing and other sacrifices.
Just keep it locked at 30/60 and I'll be happy with these consoles. I have my PC for uber settings.
I hope we get more of it.
Sorry to the complainers, but I'd prefer better graphics, with heavy AA at 720p+ than lesser graphics at 1080p with tons of aliasing and other sacrifices.
Just keep it locked at 30/60 and I'll be happy with these consoles. I have my PC for uber settings.
Yes its a fighting game with two guys in a cage with some crowds. That is the game. Its not like you are going to see beautiful beaches and jungles. Yeah, its disappointing that the developer lied. But its a fighting game. When playing the demo the graphics factor went out the window after I actually started playing the game. Its sad to see less emphasis on how the game plays and rather how the game looks nowadays.
Zombie James
Banned
edit: nvm, article clears things.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
Looks abslutely fantastic on my screen on PS4 so I couldn't care less. Didn't notice either.
Plus it's been said by devs that the demo is not as good a representation of the full game as they wanted it to be. They fine tuned the game after the demo and tweaked some things for the full game, meaning it could possibily be at 1080p for those who truely cares.
Plus it's been said by devs that the demo is not as good a representation of the full game as they wanted it to be. They fine tuned the game after the demo and tweaked some things for the full game, meaning it could possibily be at 1080p for those who truely cares.
Canis lupus
Member
Says a lot about the resolution hysteria. Everyone just assumes lower res=BLURRY SHIT. Those people don't know what they're talking about. We've played lots of 720p games last gen that looked sharp. GTA V for example, never seemed blurry.
I have no problem with 900p games this gen, as long as they look sharp enough and have stuff like 4xMSAA.
Schnozberry
Member
Ignite has yet to impress me in any game that has implemented it. The fighters in this game look good, but the shine ends there. The animations, collision detection and controls leave a lot to be desired.
boredandlazy
Member
Whining about whiners? Cute.
travisbickle
Member
When as the developer quoted as saying 1080p?
Are you sure they didn't say same resolution on both platforms and people just assumed they meant 1080?
You are writing this on a post for a game that it's blurry as hell, blame motion blur.
Try count pixels on some parts of this.
boredandlazy
Member
I'm sure if you put a 1080p version next to it people would notice.
Canis lupus
Member
This, the 500GFLOP disparity can't be all invested on that extra AA. There is untapped power there.
Yeah but... Well it's honestly just personal preference but, I'll take 1:1 pixel maping over anti-aliasing any day. And x4 MSAA seems overkill. Extreme overkill. Can't help thinking all that bandwidth could've been used somewhere else.
Creative director Brian Hayes said it:
"UFC is running at 1080p, said Hayes. The game sim is running at 60FPS, but rendering at 30FPS with motion blur.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/05/ea-sports-ufc-is-1080p-and-30fps-on-ps4-and-xbox-one
OdysseusVA
Banned
That forced parity
On my modest gaming laptop, I have always preferred using 1080p with lower quality AA as opposed to UFC's method. 1080p has a super clean, pixel to pixel mapping that gives it a very smooth IQ.
4XMSAA is absolutely overkill and expensive. It legitimately is one of the most expensive anti-aliasing filters available. They would have been better off using SMAA + FXAA. That alone would give a pretty big boost in FPS.
No but now that we found out about it everyone noticed it you see, that's how it works.
Who am I kidding, no, noone noticed, because the game still looks great and what your eyes see matters more than a number.
I feel with this game the 2nd one will be a significant improvement, they're finding their feet with the new hardware. The limited modes and number of fighters highlight that. But it still plays great, I'm really looking forward to it as a huge UFC fan.
Neuromancer
Member
Developers are learning to code to the metal on the Xbox One. The gap is shrinking.
That would make sense if both consoles had the same computing power but PS4 has 50% more.
On my modest gaming laptop, I have always preferred using 1080p with lower quality AA as opposed to UFC's method. 1080p has a super clean, pixel to pixel mapping that gives it a very smooth IQ.
4XMSAA is absolutely overkill and expensive. It legitimately is one of the most expensive anti-aliasing filters available. They would have been better off using SMAA + FXAA. That alone would give a pretty big boost in FPS.
It would be better if developers stopped using Vaseline post AA actually.
And lol at the tin foil hatters. Guys 4xmsaa isn't cheap and that's why the lesser GPU in the xbone is only giving it 2xmsaa.
gundamkyoukai
Member
They went for 4xMSAA.
Or, in the words of Ready at Dawn:
Yeah but The Order has way more going and sure to have bigger environments .
Hell The Order has 4 main characters and they mostly on screen from what we have see .
4xMSAA alone can't make things like this when X1 running with 2xMSAA.
The Rain King
Member
Parity, people.
Some people are missing the point. It's not about counting pixels and noticing if a game runs at a certain resolution. It's about aknowledging there's a visible difference between different res, when you have ground to compare.
While 900p can look good. 1080p looks better. That's all.
While 900p can look good. 1080p looks better. That's all.
ultratruman
Banned
They went for 4xMSAA.
Or, in the words of Ready at Dawn:
Interesting that 4xMSAA @ 800P is more intensive than 1080p without AA, but it makes more sense for the Order with it's black bars than UFC.
Having parity with the resolution and funnelling that extra PS4 power into doubling the AA seems more like another opportunity for EA to kiss Microsoft's ring and avoid one version of their game having any sort of performance stigma attached to it.
Zombie James
Banned
The article goes into detail about more differences than AA. Still not good enough, though, imho.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
If this is parity, then why is the PS4 still dropping frames from 30?
Canis lupus
Member
I love the motion blur in Riddick, 10 year old game(and my high end pc aint able to go max settings)
8xMSAA
And no motion blur.
Yeah 4xMSAA seems like a big reason here.
Nope.
At most it dropped two frames in the video. More often than not it drops 1 frame. There isn't parity apart from being the same resolution as seen above in the quotes PS4 has more effects.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Careful dude...
OT, I read the game has fantastic character models and looks spectacular. I hate upscaling, but if the game looks great, it looks great. Disappointing from a numbers perspective though.