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Digital Foundry PS4 Pro Launch Coverage Begins
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Basically the same as me. I have a 42inch VT Panny Plasma and the picture quality is still better than most LCDs today. No rush to jump on the 4K TV train for at least another few years.
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I'd be surprised if it was.
Wasn't the PS4 only supposed to of have 1.4 but it was designed with more bandwidth than required so that it can do more?
Steve McQueen
Member
Thanks for all your input guys. I have ( pretty tough decision
) decided to give it more time. My Panny ( also an ST60 ) still rocks and I'll enjoy the Pro as the ultimate downsampling console. Now, on to gaming ( spend too much time reading these threads, but it feels nice to have made a decision ).BradleyLove
Member
Thanks for all your input guys. I have ( pretty tough decision
Ditto. My VT50 is still fantastic and given the confusion around HDR, I'm content to remain a 1080peasant for the foreseeable.
Theonik
Member
It'll be more interesting since the performance delta isn't sufficient to make a game that is running at half 4K in native 4K. They will still look better though.
Enjoying a great big 60 inch 1080p screen with Pro is my ultimate recommendation. HDR still needs time in the oven to sort itself out, and why blow money on a 4K TV at this stage when you can't even fully take advantage of it yet?
Piku_Ringo
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Devilinthiscity
Member
That's good to hear. Hopefully it stays like that and doesn't get worse.
User123456
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Steve McQueen
Member
Is this your recommendation based on having a Pro, a 4ktv and seeing it for yourself?
BigEmil
Junior Member
Still too early to buy a premium priced non-full fledged ready tech 4k TV'sWhy I do feel like folks are trying to talk themselves out a 4K TV?
I noticed that on this page too lolWhy I do feel like folks are trying to talk themselves out a 4K TV?
Original Man
Member
Why I do feel like folks are trying to talk themselves out a 4K TV?
Basically
DeadlyVirus
Member
Whenever it's not early, 8k TVs are going to be coming out...
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
Let's be fair – probably like 75% of technology recommendations come down to, "This is one the I bought, so to convince myself that I did the right thing and to minimize potential buyer's remorse, you should get it too."
BRocknRolla
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In a decade.
Pretty much. If you could filter buying advice by confirmation bias, there wouldn't be much left to read. (Even on NeoGAF where you'd hope people are speaking from a place of knowledge.)
freefornow
Member
From the video: "As you guys know, I work for Sony"
I'll wait on independent source.
Why I do feel like folks are trying to talk themselves out a 4K TV?
Expensive shit dude, and no best of all worlds choice yet.
BRocknRolla
Member
And there never will be. There's always more to spend, more features, more whatever. At some point you say, "I'm interested in an upgrade," and you go with it.
You got people on this very page mentioning 8k. There's always something on the horizon.
Avatar quote.
Yeah, there's always something better coming out, it's the nature of tech. But honestly, I would recommend for people that are on the fence, to wait at least a year or so by which time I think the HDR situation will be a bit more stable. HDR games are just now coming out, Windows OS available to the public at the moment doesn't even support HDR yet. So much confusion around settings, what it's supposed to look like, TVs having problems with the signal the consoles are sending etc etc.
By this time next year, I think the whole thing will be a lot more clear, and far more simple than what people are having to go through these days.
lmao
Lockjaw333
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Forum avatar checks out, haha.
Totally agree. It's why I basically ignore Amazon reviews on tech.
I try to be as in biased as possible, but it's hard on the more expensive stuff. You really dont know what your true feelings are about something until you've had it for quite a while, and even then saying it's shit when you paid $500 for it or something is hard.
I have a few things that i totally disagree with reviews and general opinion on. One would be my Asus vs248h-p monitor ( since replaced). It had great reviews and recommendations everywhere, and the panel is shit. Awful color accuracy, terrible viewing angle, horrendous gamma, etc.
I'm also comfortable saying the two Samsung LCD sets I've owned suck. Terrible black levels, bad out of the box color and gamma, bad motion blur. Even the 4k Vizio m series 2015 I have I'd give like a 6.5. it's alright. The avsforums owner thread however made it out to be the second coming.
My Panasonic g25 50" plasma from 2010? That thing is a 9, easily. PQ is still phenomenal.
I find it had to take people's rec on new 4k sets here, everyone just says their TV is awesome lol.
freefornow
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As a permanent "Junior", I dont think avatar quotes apply?
chromatic9
Member
His other videos are titled PS4 Pro hate campaign. A quick glance looks like crapgamer level stuff but on the Sony side? First I've heard of a hate campaign.
Still I'm sure it's quiet. The acid test in 12-24 months from now. Many launch PS4s are very loud. My launch PS3 went very loud, pretty much went to take off mode 3 months before getting ylod. My PS3 slim is very quiet and shows no signs of breaking a sweat.
BRocknRolla
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Permanent junior? Ooph.
Merely finding humor in your someone with your avatar pointing out the suggestion of bias.
Yea you're right, I just meant all of the features that you really want in a 4k TV..everthing has a compromise and the only ones that get really close are many thousands, I think in a year or two there will bve really great choices at much better values. And by then there will be a lot more 4k content.
I have a VT60 plasma, yet I still ordered an LG OLED because of that deal.
Maybe I'm coming from a different place, but $1,500 for literally the best picture quality available right now seems dirt cheap to me.
I spent $1,300 on a pc monitor a few months ago and it is worse in all aspects except for refresh rate and response time. I mostly play single player games using a wireless controller from my couch now so input lag is not as big a deal for me.
There's no right or wrong thing to do when it comes to tech. The current batch of the 4K HDR displays are fantastic. If you can get one to enjoy games and movies, have fun. If not, feel free to wait for improved features and lower prices, but don't pretend like there isn't an appreciable difference or that people buying now are wasting their money.
Maybe I'm coming from a different place, but $1,500 for literally the best picture quality available right now seems dirt cheap to me.
I spent $1,300 on a pc monitor a few months ago and it is worse in all aspects except for refresh rate and response time. I mostly play single player games using a wireless controller from my couch now so input lag is not as big a deal for me.
There's no right or wrong thing to do when it comes to tech. The current batch of the 4K HDR displays are fantastic. If you can get one to enjoy games and movies, have fun. If not, feel free to wait for improved features and lower prices, but don't pretend like there isn't an appreciable difference or that people buying now are wasting their money.
Theonik
Member
Remember, pro has a larger cooler and the chip is larger too which makes heat transfer more efficient. When running unpatched games it should be extremely silent too due to the downclock. Much better than the slim.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Same. I was sorely tempted today as I saw a EU ks7000 available today at about 70% of rrp but meh. The improvements to 1080p will be worth it for me, and I'll probably pick up a PSVR before year's end.
LelouchZero
Member
Holy shit, I haven't tuned into the Weapon Wheel Podcast in weeks, damn I've been missing out!
I also had no idea that Darkcloud was a Sony employee.
Welp, I've got a backlog of Podcasts now. Thanks for posting this!
If the PS4 Pro uses HDMI 2.0a, then today's TVs will not be the limiting factor in the future -- unless future PS4 Pro models are upgraded.
visiblemode
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Yessssss whisper quiet. This shaping up very well indeed!
When will that be? A year or two from now? I can wait 6-9 months but not 2 years.
I think I'm waiting at least a year. Have you been in any of the "x game got hdr" threads? Seems like a real headache to me
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
PS4s were loud, right then at launch, but I think many people didn't realize as not everyone played the same games. It really all depended on a game. Games with unlocked framerate, like KZ:SF or I:SS would bring the hairdryer out of just about any PS4 I've seen. More recently, title screen of UC4, as well as the interior night scenes where you carry a torch (scenes that feature the realtime GI lighting) also make PS4s super loud.
TheDarkKnight774
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Yea I'm penciling in a 4K OLED tv next year. We'll see how it turns out
Yep. I got my PS4 a month before I:SS released. It was super quiet during AC: Black Flag and Thief. Second Son was the first time I heard my PS4's fans.
Oh god & that HDR chroma madness of 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 and etc...I can see where you're coming from lol. I hope LG kills it with their 2017 OLED models cause I'm getting tired of waiting. Still on my old ass 1080p Samsung DLP. That OLED 4K jump + HDR should be pretty damn nice.
Humdinger
Member
What embargo is ending tomorrow? Some kind of tech analyses of the Pro? DF stuff?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
That's a question of the HDMI standard, not so much the sets.
Ah yeah it helps that I bought a pretty nice 1080 set last year that I'm thrilled with
Equanimity
Member
Same. And the price.