Muppet of a Man
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It's kinda sad actually...
They are 2 different games trying to do totally different things and the design choices made reflect that.
Forza is a pretty hardcore sim. Driveclub is supposed to be more of a visceral experience.
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DriveClub INSANE new gameplay B-Roll footage (Nilgiri Hills, India)
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It's kinda sad actually...
They are 2 different games trying to do totally different things and the design choices made reflect that.
Forza is a pretty hardcore sim. Driveclub is supposed to be more of a visceral experience.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
If they weren't going to include the U.S., they should've went with something more exotic than Scotland.
Maybe a straight up jungle track in South America or something like that.
There's been some discussion that the wires is a AA issue being caused by the lighting highlights and not the actual rendering & AA solution. The same issue crops up on the cars on hard edges where a highlight/reflection doesn't have enough pixle info to display correctly, and light pixles are over used.
I believe the director of Evo stated they're going for quality, a "premium" feel for Driveclub. I would like to think that points to the obsessive detail for the environments and the cars. Hence the low car count. Again, this was a design choice on their part as was the 30fps frame rate.
Obviously it looks amazing, the lighting feels really life-like now that they're implementing global illumination algorithms in real time.
Also the fact that previews have been really positive about the game itself, its driving model and social features gives me confidence about the delay being worth it.
Also the fact that previews have been really positive about the game itself, its driving model and social features gives me confidence about the delay being worth it.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Honestly, I watched it and wasn't that blown away. Looks pretty good though, some textures look kind of muddy, maybe my expectations were too high with all the hype in the thread.
Muppet of a Man
Member
This is the correct answer in this thread. Driveclub IS PGR's spiritual successor. It even has former Bizarre staff (higher-ups I believe) on board and huge PGR fanboys are directing and designing it.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Well fished. I'll give you what you want so you can respond with 'Well, damn!'
... Ahem: 'No, those are in game shots.'
SDCowboy
Member
The Scotland course sounds pretty awesome to me. As do all the courses listed. A jungle course would be pretty amazing though if done right. lol
Bit difficult to accurately gauge texture quality from a YouTube video .case in point.
HQ - IGN - YouTube
TrojanBlade
Member
Looks gorgeous! Really glad they delayed and took their time to fix the issues. This is the only racing game I can recall where ingame really looks amazing and detailed.
And these are just shitty ass compressed yt vids (see a lot of compression). Can't wait for direct 1080p vids.
The photo thread will be amazing when this comes.
And these are just shitty ass compressed yt vids (see a lot of compression). Can't wait for direct 1080p vids.
The photo thread will be amazing when this comes.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Bit difficult to accurately gauge texture quality from a YouTube video .case in point.
HQ - IGN - YouTube
I take back what I said about the textures then. I knew Youtube compresses the video just not that much.
FaintColt388301
Member
Hahahaha. What an odd thing to do.
I'm starting to feel a little worried because noone actually mentions it.
¿I'm the only one who sees the IQ too blurred? I think they abused to much from the AA solution, it would be cool to have some more sharpnees here = (
PD And I'm not talking about YT compression. I can see it also on Gamersyde 'uncompressed' footage.
¿I'm the only one who sees the IQ too blurred? I think they abused to much from the AA solution, it would be cool to have some more sharpnees here = (
PD And I'm not talking about YT compression. I can see it also on Gamersyde 'uncompressed' footage.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Yep! Damn I'm hyped for this. Looks absolutely STUNNING from what I've seen, and the closest thing to PGR in a long time.
I did not know that about the staff, now I'm even more confident.
Yea, it's crazy that certain publishers even use the site to exclusively advertise their games with certain trailers. Mass viewership sure, but the quality is absolutely abysmal. YouTube 1080p videos are usually considerably worse than even a high quality 720p bitrate video.
Well Forza 5's cars don't look any worse and actually have more polygons if the interviews are correct. Evo said DC cars are made of 250k polygons, while Forza's are a million and above. Because they had to rework the materials and add detail T10 dropped a lot of cars from FM4 which after all DLCs had something like 600+ cars.
Daffy Duck
Member
I just hope it has a similar quality of engine noise to Forza 5. That game nails engine sounds, the LaFerrari sounds like god shouting in my ears when I use my Astro's.
DLC please Evo
That looks awesome. Where is this?
drotahorror
Member
What's that have to do with visuals and sound?
Anyways, game looks GREAT, love these past 2 videos they've put out, this one and the Canada one. I'm still in shock over those reflections. So good. We need this game NOW! Evolution made my favorite arcade racing series of all time (MotorStorm) I hope Driveclub is atleast on par with those in terms of fun. Also, I can't wait for the next MotorStorm or better yet BoatStorm, JetStorm, etc.
Maintenance
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Thanks!
gundamkyoukai
Member
If you do a graphics / price table then DC will win, obviously, but there is almost no ceiling on how beautiful you can get on ProjectCars on the PC. It will come with a price, obviously, but one that I would gladly pay.
Even if you get top of line hardware it's not going matter if the engine not doing certain things .
PC cars look great but it's lighting engine is no match for DC IMO.
drotahorror
Member
Atlantic Ocean Road in Norway. It very well could be in Driveclub.
I'm sorry, i'm not going to go into a Forza/DC talk now. We have had enough of that in these Driveclub threads. It would be nice if people can stay a bit on topic.
Btw, i'm pretty sure the million+ polycount in Forza 5 is for the Autovista models and not the in-game racing models.
I'd be cautious about believing Turn10's numbers on this front. They have been proven to grossly exaggerate numbers several times now. Most prominent example was their claim that F3's vehicle poly count was 400k. The reality was that during car selection they were 173k, and in actual gameplay they were 45k at the best LOD. Quite a difference .
Muppet of a Man
Member
I'm not sure that that million number is accurate for gameplay. It's likely that number is for the garage only. But I may be mistaken.
Masterbrew
Member
As a scandinavian, I would love some american southwest in this game.
I know it's been done a million times, but the nature there is pretty unique and beautifully simple. I'd love to see it rendered in Driveclub.
Riderz1337
Banned
This is the best compliment you could ever give the game and you didn't even know it!
All hail DriveClub and Evolution Studios!
Maintenance
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When both are finished I'll have my definitive answer.
Graphics Horse
Member
When I saw a thread was made just for this footage I thought it must have been uploaded somewhere better
Save us Sony/Gamersydemattacular
Banned
Not as impressive as you guys make out, perhaps it is just because of the fact that this is the first big racer on PS4 so you guys are getting all excited. The cars look very nice but the environments look very fake still something just off about them. Maybe I just expected more from the new gen, but I have yet to see anything I have been truly blown away by (with the exception of the division, but we all know that was BS and is never going to look like that).
The more cars a game has the more individual samples have to be recorded. Forza also features upgrades which also affect the sounds of cars. There's many things like that, you can argue about many things but when it comes to sound design pretty much nobody competes with T10 in the console space. Nick Wiswell and Co do a superb job and I recommend Forza 5 to anyone with a decent sound system. Forza is pretty much Battlefield of racing games in terms of sound design.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
bought, that sense of speed is amazing
Auto Vista mode (garage), yes correct.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
It really does look insanely gorgeous, it seems that Evolution have spent their time well.
I haven't had the time to look at all the new footage yet, did we get any direct feed gameplay videos with the hud today?
I haven't had the time to look at all the new footage yet, did we get any direct feed gameplay videos with the hud today?
E-Cat
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figadapaura
Member
Looks so good. Wasn't planning on buying it, but now I think I might.
Shit, driving on that looks crazy. Who designed that road?
Shit, driving on that looks crazy. Who designed that road?
eso76
Member
I still don't really get PGR comparisons, but that's because PGR is all about city tracks and faithful recreation of some of the world's most beautiful cities to me.
Physics do look kinda similar, but I just can't take DC for PGR spiritual successor.
Very curious to see how Forza Horizon 2 compares. I'm sure it's not using anything as exotic in terms of reflections and effects, but fm5 shaders and assets with Playground's lighting and IQ solutions could still be very sexy.
FonkyByNature
Member
This. There's a lot of passionate people at Evolution, guys from ex-devs that have the passion and experience to create great racing games. I'm a huge fan of Evolution since the Motorstorm series, Pacific Rift is one of my top 5 arcade racers of all time, it's that good !