Snap! You're right, I keep forgetting the time this series takes place and that this ep. happened even waaay back. >_<;;Your favorite executor is a baker at this point in time.
As for this episode, sogood.gif. I'll write about it after I watch it like ten more times.
Another thing I liked about ep18 is thatthey didn't use the same ending animation. They realized that it was a different song, and that was a choice to close the episode on a different tone compared to a normal episode, so they left the credits on a black screen. Good choice.
Speaking of OP's, I think it's interesting thatepisode 18 doesn't use one. I think this is the right decision - an OP sets a certain tone and mood for what's going to follow and it would have been completely out of place here. It also sets the whole episode apart as it's own distinct event.
Yeah, that is true. Maybe Saber and Kiritsugu are too detached for that.It would be Irisviel or Maiya in that case, I can't imagine Kiritsugu telling Saber about his past.
It would be Irisviel or Maiya in that case, I can't imagine Kiritsugu telling Saber about his past.
Another thing I noticed about Shirley,after biting the chickens she still managed to retain some of her human side and fight off her impulses just for a little bit unlike the rest of the villagers which instantly became ghouls.
edit: Isn't it sad? Shirley? =(
This is definitely a relationship that could use developing. We don't really know much of anything about Maiya.Speaking of Maiya... I wonder if the next episode will show us how they met.
You probably know the answer to this and you will laugh at me if I'm wrong, but now that you mention it and after what happened with that island, I'd be surprised if Kiritsugu's special interest, or even obsession, on Kotomine wasn't motivated first and foremost (obviating his disconcerting ways as a Master) by this later one status as Church Executioner. Given that the Mages Association contracted his mentor Kaminski, I have the impression that maybe he continued crossing paths with these mysterious people later on as a mercenary.
Man, I'm curious to see what you know, but I don't want spoilers either... argh!
Now even more expectations incoming, because the next episode could be the real key point to see Kiritsugu's motivations beyond the Holy Grail War.
Episode 18
Terrific episode. The very first minute pretty much sums up Kiritsugu in a nutshell, and that's before you get to actually know the details about him. Great way to start a Kiritsugu-centric story arc.
Other people in this thread have covered most of the aspects about this episode, but I want to talk about one thing:The discussion about Kiritsugu and Shirley about what would want to be when he grows up. At this point, the audience knows more about his life as an adult, and we know that he becomes what he wished for in his childhood: to be a hero of justice. Yet, when Shirley tells him that his father's research has the power to change the world, Kiritsugu can not actually say what he wants to become. His wish then is not the same thing that his father wishes for, but he can't manage to say that out loud. So when Shirley tells Kiritsugu that she'll watch over him until he grows up, she says that with the wrong impression that his desire is to continue his father's work and then goes off to prove that the Emiya's research can help people. This is probably the point where Kiritsugu's life might have changed for the better if he simply had the courage to say what he wanted to say, since Shirley then might have not been too eager to show off the magecraft's accomplishments. In constrast, adult age Kiritsugu makes no attempt at hiding what he wants to accomplish in the Holy Grail War, which definitely would have the effect of changing the world.
The character development in this series is SO GOOD. Arghhhh.
How the hell does that work? Unless its more like that guy in the animegaf topic who likes FSN more than FZ.Yours is a rare opinion, since a good part of the opinions I've found in the internet have found Kiritsugu too unsympathetic to care about his character development.
How the hell does that work? Unless its more like that guy in the animegaf topic who likes FSN more than FZ.
Wow, um, I think you like F/Z a little toooo much, if that's even possible.I don't want to pic spam, so I'll link instead, but another aspect I really liked about this episode is that the art team took the trouble to just draw animals which would add flavor to the introduction of the episode, which we generally do not see at all in the series! <3 <3
Crab: http://i.imgur.com/QinHZ.jpg
Piggie: http://i.imgur.com/RXBI8.jpg
Fish: http://i.imgur.com/dk3Fk.jpg
Doggie: http://i.imgur.com/Qm0Jv.jpg
Rooster: http://i.imgur.com/WCsl6.jpg
Cow: http://i.imgur.com/QFIXh.jpg
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Thanks for the answer. Seeing it again, that post I wrote ended up been like a veiled question asking for more information or a confirmation on that.The first episode pretty much gives you a concise answer on why Kiritsugu is afraid of Kotomine. The things that the show reveals about Kotomine helps the audience understand that answer, but I'm not sure if there's anything in particular that affects Kiritsugu's view of Kotomine thus far.
Thanks for the answer. Seeing it again, that post I wrote ended up been like a veiled question asking for more information or a confirmation on that.
I thought there would be more implications for Kiritsugu's fixation on Kotomine shown on this flashback down the road, but it is true all seems completely laid out since the beginning, I was simply expecting another turn of the screw.
Yours is a rare opinion, since a good part of the opinions I've found in the internet have found Kiritsugu too unsympathetic to care about his character development. I suppose that's to be expected sinceI just find it interesting that ufotable did decide to do that, since that's a distinct change from how the novelization handled Kiritsugu's characterization, where the narration described it quite thoroughly throughout the story.ufotable is only really exploring Kiritsugu's emotional side 18 episodes in the series, and that's after what happened a few episodes before with the Lancer team.
EDIT: <rant> On a side note, I find that I can't really discuss the changes between the anime and the novels in detail in other places where people do have knowledge of both, since most of the conversation is dictated over what changed between the two instead of why it was changed, which makes me a sad panda. That kind of talk just seems really shallow to me, and doesn't contribute to a good exchange of opinions and ideas. Unfortunately, I can't really go into much detail here either, since there really isn't much that I can talk about unless you know the story as a whole. I'll just have to live with it, I guess. </rant>
You should pass on Branduil's advice to rewatch the first episode. Kiritsugu starts crying and doesn't even want to hold his newborn child because he doesn't think he deserves to. Also, dat insecure posture.Yours is a rare opinion, since a good part of the opinions I've found in the internet have found Kiritsugu too unsympathetic to care about his character development. I suppose that's to be expected sinceI just find it interesting that ufotable did decide to do that, since that's a distinct change from how the novelization handled Kiritsugu's characterization, where the narration described it quite thoroughly throughout the story.ufotable is only really exploring Kiritsugu's emotional side 18 episodes in the series, and that's after what happened a few episodes before with the Lancer team.
This episode reminded me a lot of Kara no Kyoukai, especially with the Cornelius cameo. These vampires reproduce at a rate that's not really consistent with Tsukihime, but maybe it's because of that magic potion.
Speaking of Maiya... I wonder if the next episode will show us how they met.
Upcoming ep credits!
Ep19
Episode Director: Takahiro Miura
Storyboard: Takahiro Miura
Animation Director: Keita Shimizu
Ep20
Episode Director: Ato Nonaka
Storyboard: Keiichi Sasajima
Animation Director: TBA
Ep21
Episode Director: Akihiko Uda
Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Toshiyuki Shirai
Ep22
Episode Director: Takuya Nonaka
Storyboard: Fumie Muroi
Animation Director: Takayuki Mogi
Ep23
Episode Director: Kei Tsunematsu
Storyboard: Kei Tsunematsu
Animation Director: Atsushi Ikariya
Mind elaborating on which director did which episodes? Other than Takahiro since we know which ones he did.
Ep19 preview pics: http://moca-news.net/article/20120509/201205092053a/01/
Looking sweet. Can't wait.
Ep19:
Takahiro Miura directed OP1 and ep15, and previously directed Garden of Sinners 6. Keita Shimizu is the animation director for ep4 and 11. This is the second Kiritsugu flashback episode.
Ep20:
Ato Nonaka directed ep12 and Keiichi Sasajima storyboarded episodes 3, 6, and 15. While there is no animation director credit listed, I would say there is a good chance Takayuki Mogi is handling it, since he handles all the Ufotable Tokushima episodes (ep 6-8, 12, 17).
Ep21:
Akihiko Uda directed ep13, and the storyboarder Ei Aoki is the director of the series. Toshiyuki Shirai did animation direction for ep8 and 16. This is very likely going to be the episode with a major V-MAX action sequence, since the Ufotable producer mentioned that the director is storyboarding the V-MAX scenes personally.
Ep22:
Takuya Nonaka directed ep 6-7 and 17. He's basically the chief director for the Ufotable Tokushima episodes. This is the first episode of Fate/Zero storyboarded by Fumie Muroi. As with previous Ufotable Tokushima episodes, the animation director is Takayuki Mogi.
Ep23:
Kei Tsunematsu is the assistant director of the series and he handled ep 2-3 and 14. Atsushi Ikariya is one of the two character designers for the series, and he and Tomonori Sudou are animation directors for all the major episodes, so this should be the start of the grand climax.
Between that, Nicholas Cage, and Arrested Development, bees are completely ruined for me. I was cracking up the whole time.
ep 19
I think they should have left off Kiritusugu's backstory at the last episode really and just implied what happened next based on how he ended that episode 18. That was my favorite so far. This episode 19 was hard to get behind as there were just too few Kerry moments which were actually good. As he got older he became more and more uninteresting and unappealing as a character. As a fan of action however I did enjoy what the episode offered in that department, only during the final "mini arc" of sortsThe stuff with the plane and Natalia taking on everything along leading to the interesting missile assault (though why in the world were so many birds around, they were in the way). Difficult to feel the emotion there with Kiritsugu since he was the one to fire it down and there were other options available, she could have landed in the water for example and escaped, she could have had some parachute packed to land, she didnt have to take the guy out on the plane, IMO. I wish they would try some sort of Resident Evil esque anime as I think they could really do it with whoever wrote this episode and the animation team behind it.
Visuals were nice.
Fate/Zero Episode 19:
Mind of Steel.
I am envious since I think you're going to get it!After this episode, I now know the BD Set II is going to be freaking amazing.
This show has been two seasons so far, right? Is it fine to jump into season 1 of it without ever experiencing the fate universe?
This show has been two seasons so far, right? Is it fine to jump into season 1 of it without ever experiencing the fate universe?
Question:
It has been bothering me for quite some time, but Tokiome said he gave Sakura up because only 1 child can inherit the family's magic. Is that an actual in-universe rule like in that stupid Disney Channel show (Witches of Waverly Place?), or is that just some stupid self-imposed rule?